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Stinky The Clown

(67,816 posts)
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 08:54 AM Sep 2016

"Mustang .380 Single Action"

SO THE FUCK WHAT?????

Small gun easily concealed is clear enough.

Small gun suitable for an ankle holster is clear enough.

Small pistol is good enough.

How is the gun porn description germane to the discussion of Keith Scott's murder by the Charlotte PD?

Oh, I know. Showing one's gun humper creds, right?

A man is dead at the hands of the police. Again, the dead man is black. Again, the dead man is innocent. Again, it was the WRONG man.

And someone thinks it is necessary to tell us all that it was a Mustang .380 single action.









Geezusfukkingkerist. Please just go away.

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"Mustang .380 Single Action" (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Sep 2016 OP
Gun nuts are very worried about their equipment size. onehandle Sep 2016 #1
Especially when it is small in size and calibre. longship Sep 2016 #2
Yep - and highly significant in getting this poor PoC killed. nt jmg257 Sep 2016 #13
Is that your opinion of Keith Scott? Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2016 #17
Get a grip hack89 Sep 2016 #3
I hope he does not ever decide to get a weapon. Duckhunter935 Sep 2016 #8
He holds gun owners in low regard. He holds gun humpers in VERY low regard. Stinky The Clown Sep 2016 #15
I guess we are different Duckhunter935 Sep 2016 #21
ie, he holds Keith Scott in VERY low regard. B2G Sep 2016 #22
Cops too since he was freaking out over the cops throwing down a gun, planting a gun, jmg257 Sep 2016 #23
And I'm not "freaking out". I am fucking pissed. Stinky The Clown Sep 2016 #25
Yes - completely understandable. nt jmg257 Sep 2016 #27
No gotcha. What I said holds true. Stinky The Clown Sep 2016 #24
It is a detail. WTF difference does it make? pipoman Sep 2016 #4
yep - a tad ott over a poster's added info DrDan Sep 2016 #11
I believe he planted his flag over the narrative of a 'drop gun', so this is diversionary grooming. X_Digger Sep 2016 #59
Details are helpful to complete the picture. JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2016 #5
Reasons the model may be important citood Sep 2016 #6
It is not gun porn Duckhunter935 Sep 2016 #7
Starting a thread about it is gun porn. pintobean Sep 2016 #9
Ha don't forget the cocked and unLocked - but possibly with out a magazine. jmg257 Sep 2016 #10
I saw my elementary school janitor kill his wife with a .22 caliber pistol. One shot. tonyt53 Sep 2016 #51
Yep - .380 would do it too. For me, a 1 round pistol wouldn't be worth getting killed over. jmg257 Sep 2016 #52
Why do facts make you so disturbed? Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #12
They should be discussing Scott's brain injury... usedtobedemgurl Sep 2016 #14
She also shouted he didn't have a gun and they could see he did Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #16
She said the TBI before he was killed.... usedtobedemgurl Sep 2016 #18
They never heard a word she said....tunnel vision in the heat of the moment I'm sure. ileus Sep 2016 #31
Somebody appears out of nowhere with a gun for no reason, and all attention goes there. tonyt53 Sep 2016 #54
Yes, he was a felon in possession. Was probably facing some serious time. n/t X_Digger Sep 2016 #60
He would have faced felon in possession and likely habitual felon Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #63
Why did they demand he get out of the car? What was the problem? The pistol grip where the magazine Jim Beard Sep 2016 #19
If he had a brain injury rumdude Sep 2016 #33
Keep in mind all your previous "Melt them down!" rants would include this type of gun. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2016 #20
I still subscribe to "Melt 'em Down" Stinky The Clown Sep 2016 #26
Yeah? Well, you'll need the police for that. Including the ones who shot Mr. Scott. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2016 #38
Including ones used to guard POTUS? MicaelS Sep 2016 #53
The colt is a nice collectors piece, but an LCP is the better 380. ileus Sep 2016 #28
Tweak Stinky The Clown Sep 2016 #30
I din't know what that means... ileus Sep 2016 #36
You mean the gun the cops planted? Rex Sep 2016 #29
I see it is that picture. Stinky The Clown Sep 2016 #32
You see a gun in that picture? Rex Sep 2016 #34
It's to the right of the left foot pintobean Sep 2016 #35
So it moved? Rex Sep 2016 #37
It's standard procedure to scoot a gun away from an injured suspect Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #40
Riiggghttt...keep pretending the cops did nothing wrong. Rex Sep 2016 #41
The gun didn't move pintobean Sep 2016 #42
Okay, so now you just pretend reality from two different points are the same. Rex Sep 2016 #43
I gave you way too much credit pintobean Sep 2016 #44
Well you are almost always wrong, so there is that. Rex Sep 2016 #45
One more time. That's a GLOVE, not a gun. Nt B2G Sep 2016 #46
Not so sure about that - sure looks like a gun to me. And its in the location where the object 1st jmg257 Sep 2016 #48
The cop was standing over it closer to the truck B2G Sep 2016 #49
Dont agree, the shadow from the truck is right there, as is shadow to left & white stuff on pavement jmg257 Sep 2016 #50
Many police depts. it is standard procedure to put one cop in charge of guarding the weapon. tonyt53 Sep 2016 #55
He was very adamant about standing over it. Least till the crime scene tape is up. jmg257 Sep 2016 #56
You should clarify who is the "gun humper," here. Scott? We don't know if he had one... Eleanors38 Sep 2016 #39
But he had POT!!!!! MFM008 Sep 2016 #47
Gun humpers gonna hump guns mwrguy Sep 2016 #57
I didn't know it was single action. Thanks for the info, Stinky. aikoaiko Sep 2016 #58
Now you do Stinky The Clown Sep 2016 #61
Sure. I don't even know what OP you're referencing. aikoaiko Sep 2016 #62
 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
21. I guess we are different
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 11:23 AM
Sep 2016

I respect everyone's right to do a legal activity. However if you abuse that right, you should be accountable for that.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
23. Cops too since he was freaking out over the cops throwing down a gun, planting a gun,
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 12:13 PM
Sep 2016

or gloves, or...something.

Bad shoot is a bad shoot, tossing down a gun is another.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
59. I believe he planted his flag over the narrative of a 'drop gun', so this is diversionary grooming.
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 09:25 PM
Sep 2016

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,356 posts)
5. Details are helpful to complete the picture.
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 09:33 AM
Sep 2016

Disclaimer: It is absolutely not necessary to read this.

I hope the details of the video reveal whether the gun was in Scott's hand, or planted by the police. That sort of gun-humping detail seems to be somewhat lacking.

Is it necessary to point out that the hammer is cocked and the thumb safety is off? The gun's state of readiness may or may not be a helpful detail. It might have an impact on a gun-humping cop's action.

If the shooting goes to trial, the jurors will have their minds numbed by incredible detail, endlessly repeated.

citood

(550 posts)
6. Reasons the model may be important
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 09:36 AM
Sep 2016

- Perhaps the victim was known to own this model

- Perhaps one of the cops was known to own this model

- The term single action and the position of the hammer impacts how imminently lethal the gun was

Its a piece of information...no big deal.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
10. Ha don't forget the cocked and unLocked - but possibly with out a magazine.
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 10:20 AM
Sep 2016

The police said it was loaded, might have been - but IF in that case, then with 1 round. Small matter really and partly conjecture - though seems silly to carry a gun loaded with only 1 round.

The discussion in that thread was about the gun involved, and speculation about its size {vs the ankle holster), and even type {"glock-like" was mentioned)...the name also happened to be clearly labeled on its side.

Sorry knowing what it was that was supposedly so important to getting Scott killed got you so upset.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
12. Why do facts make you so disturbed?
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 10:26 AM
Sep 2016

FWIW mentioning the model actually helps tie the clues together. There is footage of him with an exposed ankle holster with the pants leg above it as is typical for someone who has just drawn from such a holster, and the gun is one that is small enough to fit into such a holster.

Had it been a larger pistol that couldn't be carried in an ankle holster that would raise questions. But it fits.

I know the fact that it's a pistol that can be carried in an ankle holster and there is footage of him wearing an ankle holster makes it much harder to try and believe the nonsense conspiracy theories about police planting the gun- facts tend to always debunk such conspiracy theories- but get a grip and deal with it instead of going into a rage when presented with facts that you don't like.

usedtobedemgurl

(1,141 posts)
14. They should be discussing Scott's brain injury...
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 10:38 AM
Sep 2016

the wife shouts out he has TBI and just took meds for it. When someone has a brain injury, you act differently with the shouting which can and will just shut him down. His wife said he was no threat. His wife warned his brain in impaired. This did not have to happen.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
16. She also shouted he didn't have a gun and they could see he did
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 10:47 AM
Sep 2016

So she didn't exactly have any credibility or give them any reason to trust her.

In fact have we actually see evidence of the TBI being real, or was that as false as the claims he didn't have a gun.

usedtobedemgurl

(1,141 posts)
18. She said the TBI before he was killed....
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 10:58 AM
Sep 2016

why would she lie? I see you have made up your mind about the gun and it would appear that you do not care he may have had TBI and that that would call for a different protocol which the cops did not observe. Namaste to you and I hope you find your path in life.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
31. They never heard a word she said....tunnel vision in the heat of the moment I'm sure.
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 01:14 PM
Sep 2016

Even when watching the body cam footage you don't hear her screaming.




This shooting was so bleeped up in so many ways, like so many we've seen the past few years. Somethings got to change in the way LEO's respond to situations like this.


The video I watched even armed he didn't seem to be a threat that needed to be put down.



 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
54. Somebody appears out of nowhere with a gun for no reason, and all attention goes there.
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 03:48 PM
Sep 2016

Their eyes were on Scott and the gun. Hard to listen to someone over to the side with that going on. Never had a gun pointed at ya, huh?

It's not that she is lying. She is trying to get him out alive, but he made the wrong choice. The much larger question is why did Scott react to the cops in the manner that he did? They weren't there for him. The pot? A fine. Was he a felon (I have no idea)? If so, then the gum would have caused him a problem when they arrested him for the pot. But if he told them about it, them since they were there for somebody else, they might have simply taken the gun and he would have had the pot possession issue and that was it.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
63. He would have faced felon in possession and likely habitual felon
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 10:39 PM
Sep 2016

Given his prior history he was likely facing several more years for the drug posession and firearm charges, and more if the prosecution added habitual felon.

 

Jim Beard

(2,535 posts)
19. Why did they demand he get out of the car? What was the problem? The pistol grip where the magazine
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 10:59 AM
Sep 2016

is inserted appears to be dark looking at the base of the grip. Was he really a threat? He had many opportunities to shoot the cops. I ask once again, what was the hurry?

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
20. Keep in mind all your previous "Melt them down!" rants would include this type of gun.
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 11:01 AM
Sep 2016

And your "Melt them down!" rants would effect those who have never been convicted of a violent crime.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
53. Including ones used to guard POTUS?
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 03:35 PM
Sep 2016

Or HRC? You want their USSS details to be disarmed? Because if you do you sound just like Trump.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
28. The colt is a nice collectors piece, but an LCP is the better 380.
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 01:09 PM
Sep 2016

IMHO the colt is way too heavy for an ankle holster of any type. Actually for me any ankle holster is junk...just pocket carry instead.

Stinky The Clown

(67,816 posts)
30. Tweak
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 01:13 PM
Sep 2016

I hear it has a righteous framodazzle and is superior in the kitoochi department too.

Yup, quite a piece.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
36. I din't know what that means...
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 01:19 PM
Sep 2016

but the colt is heavy and the LCP makes a much better conceal carry option.


Sure the colt has a great single action trigger and it's weight makes for a more enjoyable shooting experience, but those positives are out weighed by the LCPs size and weight for conceal carry.

There's nothing wrong with being technical and sharing real world experience.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
37. So it moved?
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 01:21 PM
Sep 2016

Please, like you have a leg to stand on. You have zero cred when it comes to this topic. Zero.
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
41. Riiggghttt...keep pretending the cops did nothing wrong.
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 01:37 PM
Sep 2016

SO how was he going to reach the gun 10 feet away from him and also...gee...he is shot an down on the ground with officers over him.

Keep digging, it is amusing watching you defend these guys and losing.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
42. The gun didn't move
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 01:43 PM
Sep 2016

the guy in red, the camera angle, and your goal posts all moved. The gun is in the same spot in both of those images.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
43. Okay, so now you just pretend reality from two different points are the same.
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 01:45 PM
Sep 2016

You are so funny.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
45. Well you are almost always wrong, so there is that.
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 01:50 PM
Sep 2016

Thanks for admitting to it, I bet that was the hardest thing you've ever done.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
48. Not so sure about that - sure looks like a gun to me. And its in the location where the object 1st
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 03:03 PM
Sep 2016

shows up in the wife's video, and where the red cop stands.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
50. Dont agree, the shadow from the truck is right there, as is shadow to left & white stuff on pavement
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 03:22 PM
Sep 2016
?

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
55. Many police depts. it is standard procedure to put one cop in charge of guarding the weapon.
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 03:52 PM
Sep 2016

I'm no gun nut and haven't fired one in about 40 years, but I know one when I see one. That is a pistol at the inner left foot of the cop.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
56. He was very adamant about standing over it. Least till the crime scene tape is up.
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 03:54 PM
Sep 2016

You can see him very deliberately step to it in the wife's video, after grabbing the 1st pair of dropped gloves.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
39. You should clarify who is the "gun humper," here. Scott? We don't know if he had one...
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 01:28 PM
Sep 2016

the reasons for his purported carry are not known. Seems inappropriate to go after people you despise, usng a possible crime for the reason.

aikoaiko

(34,177 posts)
58. I didn't know it was single action. Thanks for the info, Stinky.
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 09:21 PM
Sep 2016


If it weren't for your OP I wouldn't know.
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