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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 03:42 AM Sep 2016

Cops slam black, 15yo car-accident victim face-first into wall and pepper-spray her.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/busted-cops-caught-on-video-pepper-spraying-handcuffed-biracial-girl-after-a-car-hit-her/

A bystander asked the officers why they were treating the girl like a criminal, only to be told that as a minor, the girl is legally not allowed to refuse (medical) treatment.

“What happens…when she’s like, ‘I’m fine,’ right, and has a brain injury or something like that, and then she could die later?” the officer said. “And she’s going to come over here and fight us when all we want to do is make sure she’s OK.”

The officers shut the door and then unloaded a can of pepper spray into the back seat of the cruiser through a cracked window. In the video, the girl can be heard screaming and crying out that she can’t breathe.

After gassing her in the back seat — and in spite of their insistence that the teen needed immediate medical attention — police took the teen to the police station to be booked for disorderly conduct, two counts of second-degree assault, possession of marijuana and failure to obey a traffic device.
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Cops slam black, 15yo car-accident victim face-first into wall and pepper-spray her. (Original Post) DetlefK Sep 2016 OP
From the linked article: left-of-center2012 Sep 2016 #1
"Hi, I'm a child abuser, and I'm also police. I order you not to document my injuries to that child" TheBlackAdder Sep 2016 #23
This is another WTF story... yuiyoshida Sep 2016 #2
The RAGE get the red out Sep 2016 #3
+1, Some stations their callousness is either ignored or rewarded uponit7771 Sep 2016 #6
Agree Catherine Vincent Sep 2016 #18
From the links... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2016 #4
Some leadership in the police stations normalize hatred of blacks, there's little rational reason uponit7771 Sep 2016 #5
The 95% of cops are bad, crooked or in over their heads and safeinOhio Sep 2016 #7
Jesus Dorian Gray Sep 2016 #8
And then not take her for treatment Ilsa Sep 2016 #13
Yeah. Dorian Gray Sep 2016 #15
Zero ability to adapt Jon King Sep 2016 #9
Fucking asshole shitstain gestapo cops gopiscrap Sep 2016 #10
:( I know.... It's so frustrating. Divine Discontent Sep 2016 #11
The video I saw backs up the cops. Kingofalldems Sep 2016 #12
Do you have a link for that video? bluesbassman Sep 2016 #14
Here you go: Kingofalldems Sep 2016 #17
That is an excuse to slam her against a wall and pepper spray her while handcuffed? bluesbassman Sep 2016 #24
When was she slammed against the wall? Kingofalldems Sep 2016 #25
Because you think it's A-OK for a gang of burly cops to rough up a tiny 15yr old girl. bluesbassman Sep 2016 #26
Were they supposed to let her run away? Kingofalldems Sep 2016 #28
If that many cops can't non-violently contain a petite child, they shouldn't be cops. bluesbassman Sep 2016 #29
Not responsive. Well actually you responded with another insult. Kingofalldems Sep 2016 #30
You're pretty sensitive for a bulling cop defender. You guys usually have thicker skin. bluesbassman Sep 2016 #31
I defy you to prove your statement. Kingofalldems Sep 2016 #32
You continually defend their actions so then you agree with them. No need to look up past posts. bluesbassman Sep 2016 #33
It was more than a scratch. Kingofalldems Sep 2016 #34
So beating up a 15yr old girl over some car damage is how you roll? bluesbassman Sep 2016 #35
Bye now. Kingofalldems Sep 2016 #36
exactly gopiscrap Sep 2016 #37
Watching the video Separation Sep 2016 #27
4:24 - "You're letting that badge go to your head" sez the bystander from 10 ft away. baldguy Sep 2016 #39
I saw the video and disagree. Keep in mind she's just a kid. DLevine Sep 2016 #16
Wow, get hit by a car Bettie Sep 2016 #19
Not exactly what happened according to the driver of the car. bighart Sep 2016 #20
At 15, I know I wasn't always paying attention to what I was doing Bettie Sep 2016 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author mrmpa Sep 2016 #22
And cops wonder why people hate their guts nt MrScorpio Sep 2016 #38

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
1. From the linked article:
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 04:10 AM
Sep 2016

"... the police contacted the hospital and ordered them not to take any photos of the girl’s chemical burns."

yuiyoshida

(41,867 posts)
2. This is another WTF story...
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 04:19 AM
Sep 2016

Cops nation wide need to be retrained and the Racists weeded out. There needs to be a nation wide set of standards that each Police department must abide by, or perhaps a special Federal task force of the Justice Department is brought in to investigate. These abuses MUST STOP.

get the red out

(13,468 posts)
3. The RAGE
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 04:45 AM
Sep 2016

To have rage at a young girl for nothing, these cops are insane with racism, zero impulse control, they should serve serious time for this, but won't get it.

Catherine Vincent

(34,491 posts)
18. Agree
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 10:12 AM
Sep 2016

I just viewed the video and it's unbelievable how those 2 cops was man handling that little girl. And just because she wasn't being cooperative, it looked like she was ok...all they had to do was maybe follow her to make sure she made it home ok but no, they had to slam her into the car and force her in there as that one cop pepper sprayed her continuously. That was ridiculous! I could be wrong but I feel if this was some little blonde haired/white girl, they wouldn't have pulled that crap.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
4. From the links...
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 04:46 AM
Sep 2016

"He conceded that the girl, who has a white mother and a black father, resisted when officers tried to put her in the back of a cruiser."

There it is...

uponit7771

(90,367 posts)
5. Some leadership in the police stations normalize hatred of blacks, there's little rational reason
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 04:48 AM
Sep 2016

... people would do this in public knowing someone has them on camera

safeinOhio

(32,733 posts)
7. The 95% of cops are bad, crooked or in over their heads and
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 05:45 AM
Sep 2016

make those 5% good cops look bad.

Might be time to disarm all cops, until our representatives can figure our what the hell is going on.

Dorian Gray

(13,503 posts)
8. Jesus
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 05:51 AM
Sep 2016

She's legally not allowed to refuse medical treatment, so lets slam her into a wall, spray her with pepper spray, and make sure she actually needs medical treatment so our abuse of her seems justified?

WTF?

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
9. Zero ability to adapt
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 06:17 AM
Sep 2016

Many cops handle everything with zero control. The girl hit her head and might have been acting out of the ordinary, or just a rammy teen, like most of them. They could have tried to de-escalate the situation. Instead they went from zero to 100 and did all they could to further upset her.

We moved to a new town and were headed to a tennis center the other day. There are 2 schools on the road and a line of cars waiting on the shoulder to turn right and pick their kids up. We were going to turn right and go down the middle lane which was clear and had nothing to do with the school line. As I signaled to turn, a cop standing there literally exploded for no reason. Ran towards our car that contained kids, yelling, gesturing violently, waving us to keep going and not turn. Zero attempt to even explain. His face was pure rage, and did not fit the situation at all. It was a very quiet back road, nice day, the line had just formed so he had no reason to be irritated at any of the people there. It was as innocent a situation as there could be, and legally we did nothing at all wrong.

And this was an area of 95% white people. Just imagine how he would have behaved had this been anything more serious or in a black area.

gopiscrap

(23,765 posts)
10. Fucking asshole shitstain gestapo cops
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 06:31 PM
Sep 2016

I have been griping about this sort of shit on here for years but often get blowback from badge humpers. Pigs in this country are out of control. They are all a bunch of maladjusted sociopaths or apologists for their colleagues.

Kingofalldems

(38,490 posts)
12. The video I saw backs up the cops.
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 10:17 PM
Sep 2016

And I am not 'one of those' that we have here on DU. The girl hit the car after running a light. She caused all the commotion herself.

Gotta call it like I see it.

bluesbassman

(19,379 posts)
24. That is an excuse to slam her against a wall and pepper spray her while handcuffed?
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 01:46 PM
Sep 2016

Strange world you live in.

Kingofalldems

(38,490 posts)
25. When was she slammed against the wall?
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 01:56 PM
Sep 2016

Didn't see it at all. They tried and tried to calm her down.

Strange world my ass. Because I disagreed with you?

bluesbassman

(19,379 posts)
26. Because you think it's A-OK for a gang of burly cops to rough up a tiny 15yr old girl.
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 02:00 PM
Sep 2016

Justifying it does show your ass. Just calling it like I sees it.

Kingofalldems

(38,490 posts)
28. Were they supposed to let her run away?
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 03:20 PM
Sep 2016

How would you have handled it?

BTW, you 'showed your ass' when you insulted me twice for having an opinion.

bluesbassman

(19,379 posts)
29. If that many cops can't non-violently contain a petite child, they shouldn't be cops.
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 03:34 PM
Sep 2016

And you insult yourself with your continued support of these thugs. Are their actions how YOU would've handled it? I see them as nothing more than pathetic bullies, getting their jollies beating up a female child. You keep on supporting their actions as you see fit though.

bluesbassman

(19,379 posts)
31. You're pretty sensitive for a bulling cop defender. You guys usually have thicker skin.
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 03:59 PM
Sep 2016

Guess we can assume how you would've responded to the threatening actions of the little girl in the video.

Kingofalldems

(38,490 posts)
32. I defy you to prove your statement.
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 04:08 PM
Sep 2016

Look up my posts or get someone else to do it if you can't. You will not find ONE defending bad cops. Just the opposite. And go back as far as possible.

Again you move the goalposts. I never once said the girl was a threat. She tried to run from the scene of an accident that she caused. Again I ask--were the cops supposed to let her run away? What about the old man that she hit? Was he supposed to eat the cost of damage to his car?

bluesbassman

(19,379 posts)
33. You continually defend their actions so then you agree with them. No need to look up past posts.
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 04:51 PM
Sep 2016

She was not moving when they grabbed her off her bike and began manhandling her. What they were SUPPOSED to do is treat her like another human being. You ask what I would've done? There's your answer. What I would not have done is rough her up and spray chemicals into her face as she was handcuffed and sitting in the back seat of a patrol car. Why you think this is all justified because she scratched some person's car is beyond me.

Kingofalldems

(38,490 posts)
34. It was more than a scratch.
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 05:07 PM
Sep 2016

If you paid attention to the video the old man said he could not open his door after the accident and you can clearly see the driver's side mirror was damaged also, so there is maybe $1,000 minimum. Please come armed with facts. Done.

bluesbassman

(19,379 posts)
35. So beating up a 15yr old girl over some car damage is how you roll?
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 05:15 PM
Sep 2016

You are done man.

And BTW, we don't have a king. Perhaps you should move somewhere that acknowledges monarchies and all that goes with them.

Separation

(1,975 posts)
27. Watching the video
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 02:06 PM
Sep 2016


It looks like she was worried about being caught with some pot on her. At the beginning they just wanted her to sit on the side and get her info so they could get her parents down there to make sure she was ok. It looks like it escalated from there.

Of course this is only my opinion.
 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
39. 4:24 - "You're letting that badge go to your head" sez the bystander from 10 ft away.
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 09:00 AM
Sep 2016

This didn't start with the girl restrained in the back seat of the cop car & being pepper sprayed.

DLevine

(1,788 posts)
16. I saw the video and disagree. Keep in mind she's just a kid.
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 07:31 AM
Sep 2016

Would you want your child treated that way?

bighart

(1,565 posts)
20. Not exactly what happened according to the driver of the car.
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 10:30 AM
Sep 2016

It sounds like the girl ran a red light and ran into the car.
There is damage visible to the side of the car that indicates that what the driver stated is what happened.
If that is the case the young lady was attempting to flee the scene of an accident that she caused.

The cops handled this situation very poorly.
The cops did not need to mace her when and in the manner they did for damned sure.
They do have a duty to investigate and report on the accident.
She was wrong to attempt to flee the scene of an accident she is responsible for causing but that in no way excuses the way the police handled this.

Bettie

(16,130 posts)
21. At 15, I know I wasn't always paying attention to what I was doing
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 11:37 AM
Sep 2016

it still doesn't mean the cops were right to do what they did.

And it absolutely would not have gone down that way if she were a blonde, blue eyed white girl.

ETA: My 15 year old son ran into a parked car, due to being distracted while riding a bike, kids are, well, kids. (We offered to pay for the dent to be pounded out.)

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