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rug

(82,333 posts)
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 02:46 PM Sep 2016

Seattle's new war on drugs: Giving heroin addicts 'safe sites' to shoot up


By Rick Anderson

September 21, 2016, 3:00 AM |Reporting from Seattle

September 21, 2016, 3:00 AM | Reporting from Seattle

Seattle officials are moving forward with a controversial plan for what would be the nation’s first supervised heroin-injection clinics — government-financed shooting galleries that supporters say can save lives but that critics say will only enable drug users.

A new 99-page task force study envisions at least two safe-use facilities — one in Seattle, another in the suburbs — where heroin addicts can legally take narcotics while being monitored by medical personnel who can administer aid or call 911 if needed.

The project is modeled after North America’s first supervised heroin haven, InSite, a government-funded injection facility 140 miles north in Vancouver, B.C., which in 13 years of operation has never had an overdose fatality, officials there say.

That success has inspired other cities — including San Francisco, Los Angeles and Portland — to consider government-approved safe sites for addicts to inject heroin. But Seattle is moving fastest, convinced there is “urgent need for action,” as the new study puts it.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-seattle-heroin-20160920-snap-story.html
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Seattle's new war on drugs: Giving heroin addicts 'safe sites' to shoot up (Original Post) rug Sep 2016 OP
Why the Fuck not maxsolomon Sep 2016 #1
Here's my comment over the concern of "enabling" haele Sep 2016 #2
And now get ready for the GWC58 Sep 2016 #4
Well, since they're only on the periphery of Seattle maxsolomon Sep 2016 #5
I abhor recreational drug use and agree with you completely etherealtruth Sep 2016 #7
Long over due. Eleanors38 Sep 2016 #3
Hamsterdam? nt Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2016 #6
I am okay with this in an inpatient treatment setting Sen. Walter Sobchak Sep 2016 #8
This is a good thing. Should happen in every city. jack_krass Sep 2016 #9
About damn time. roamer65 Sep 2016 #10
A great idea. This will save lives. NaturalHigh Sep 2016 #11
Good. We need to treat addiction like a health issue. Warren DeMontague Sep 2016 #12

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
1. Why the Fuck not
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 02:55 PM
Sep 2016

I'm not enamored of having them shooting up, and overdosing, in the downtown public restrooms parents take their children to use.

haele

(12,660 posts)
2. Here's my comment over the concern of "enabling"
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 03:07 PM
Sep 2016

The drug addict that is being ridden by his/her demons is going to be going after that fix no matter what. The harder it is for them to get their fix, the more damage they do to the world around them.
Addiction is literally a monster on their backs. Addicts are always aware of it, and as an addict that worked in my crew once told me, when it gets too bad, it's like "something has just grabbed into her skull with long red claws and is taking control of big chunks of her brain".

Yes, of course she's going to "just say no" if it's "too hard" to get the drug that eventually calms the monster that's currently ripping her mind apart and making her physically ill. Let's just punish her some more because damn it, she was weak, and let her then-boyfriend convince her to get strung out with him that one time back when she was 16.


Give addicts a safe place, give them access to help to control their addiction, and there's less overall damage done. That's not encouraging them to do drugs, and not going to be getting them even more addicted - the addiction ship has already sailed, and the addict is well and truly out to sea.

They're self-medicating with the addiction as it is. Withholding the drug they crave at that point in time is not going to somehow make them see the light, make them more likely to quit, etc...it's only going to make them more paranoid, sneakier, and more liable to cause themselves and others harm as they desperately seek out their next fix when the urge gets too bad.

Give them a safe place where they can find help, when they're ready. They're still going to hit bottom - just not with so much added danger to the rest of the general public as they start to implode.

Haele

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
5. Well, since they're only on the periphery of Seattle
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 04:33 PM
Sep 2016

there won't be much. Just the usual assholes on KIRO FM.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
8. I am okay with this in an inpatient treatment setting
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 05:16 PM
Sep 2016

I am not okay with giving addicts a place to shoot-up and then just turning them back out to the street.

If West Coast cities don't get a handle on their junkies, you're going to have a whole lot of Rudy Giuliani clones in office from Vancouver to San Diego a decade from now.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
10. About damn time.
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 06:55 PM
Sep 2016

Should be government certified, fentanyl free doses that are given out at low or no cost. Should also be run and monitored by medical doctors.

Heroin cessation should fully employ medical MJ to help them off it, if possible.

If you break the link between pusher and user, crime will drop dramatically.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
12. Good. We need to treat addiction like a health issue.
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 02:39 AM
Sep 2016

And stop trying so god-damn hard to control peoples' lives. In some cases that means a harm reduction approach, abso-fucking-lutely.

Meanwhile, the "crackdown" on the "prescription drug crisis!!!11111!!!!" is predictably doing what many of us have been saying it would, namely, causing people with legitimate pain management needs to suffer, and driving some of them into black market opiods.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/04/15/feds-pill-crackdown-drives-pain-patients-to-heroin.html

http://www.opb.org/news/article/oregon-heroin-opioid-prescription-addiction-treatment/

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