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SHRED

(28,136 posts)
Tue Sep 20, 2016, 10:41 AM Sep 2016

One of the saddest parts of this election

Are family and friends willing to vote for tRump.

You knew they leaned rightwing but didn't think they'd go so far as to support a bigoted, sexist, racist, xenophobic ego maniac and reality TV con man.

It has damaged my relationships but I guess the bitter truth is best known rather than hidden.

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One of the saddest parts of this election (Original Post) SHRED Sep 2016 OP
Many of us people of color tried to tell DU how much racism is here and REAL but few would listen. Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2016 #1
I have to feel that, in general, things are slowly getting better. maxsolomon Sep 2016 #20
Ended my relationship mrsv Sep 2016 #2
I would never. I don't discuss politics with friends and family yeoman6987 Sep 2016 #7
I have a similar situation. hamsterjill Sep 2016 #14
That is too much to give up over a stupid election LuvNewcastle Sep 2016 #19
Good. I prefer not to have "friends" or family that are racists. Not everyone feels that way. n/t jtuck004 Sep 2016 #24
Not to mention co-workers...... Jade Fox Sep 2016 #3
I can barely speak with... Little Star Sep 2016 #4
i already lost most of those friends in the bush years, but mopinko Sep 2016 #5
I used to think many of my family members were smart people NightWatcher Sep 2016 #6
What makes it so maddening is that these people detested the Democratic candidates in past elections bulloney Sep 2016 #8
IOKIYAR maxsolomon Sep 2016 #21
Isn't it a pity? : George Harrison c1970 world wide wally Sep 2016 #9
one of my friends (an absolute darling 80-something) is horrified by how many of her friends niyad Sep 2016 #10
Very true!............ K&R (nt) Ernesto Sep 2016 #11
Politics shouldn't come between friends and family Calculating Sep 2016 #12
I can't ignore shit like that when I hear it. MynameisBlarney Sep 2016 #16
Is it that they really want Trump or that yuiyoshida Sep 2016 #13
there is that maxsolomon Sep 2016 #17
Yeah, they have GOD on their side.... yuiyoshida Sep 2016 #25
Ain't that the damn truth? MynameisBlarney Sep 2016 #15
I feel your pain SpankMe Sep 2016 #18
Oh man SHRED Sep 2016 #22
Fortunately, this is NOT in my family, immediate or extended. DinahMoeHum Sep 2016 #23
Check your family members facebook and Twitter, see who they lean to. SummerSnow Sep 2016 #26
So agree. lark Sep 2016 #27

maxsolomon

(33,388 posts)
20. I have to feel that, in general, things are slowly getting better.
Tue Sep 20, 2016, 01:07 PM
Sep 2016

But I live in a low-crime, multi-cultural west coast city, and I count myself lucky. I'm very distant from Tulsa, Ferguson, Baltimore.

I know from my upbringing that there are deep-seated pockets of ignorance and fear. White America knows it's hegemony is over, even if they don't know what that word means. Hence the reactionary xenophobia.

This is their last stand.

I hope.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
7. I would never. I don't discuss politics with friends and family
Tue Sep 20, 2016, 11:28 AM
Sep 2016

That's why these websites are good for discussion. I get all my conversation I need here.

hamsterjill

(15,223 posts)
14. I have a similar situation.
Tue Sep 20, 2016, 12:54 PM
Sep 2016

One of my oldest and dearest friends just posted something on Facebook that made me want to vomit, particularly knowing her particular situation. She has a husband with a terminal illness and how she can believe that Trump, if elected, would do anything to better that situation, is beyond me.

I haven't said anything at this point. But I can tell you that because of my own passionate feelings about what is actually at stake in this election, something has changed within ME as to how I view HER.

LuvNewcastle

(16,855 posts)
19. That is too much to give up over a stupid election
Tue Sep 20, 2016, 01:03 PM
Sep 2016

that doesn't amount to much in the grand scheme of things. Sure, we all want Hillary to win and most of us can't stand Donald Trump, but stupid politics are not grounds to end a 50 year friendship. No matter how invested we might be in these elections, the chances are very low that the world will end regardless of who wins.

Trust me, you can keep your friendship and leave stupid politics out of it. I've been doing that with friends and family members since I was old enough to understand what politics were, and there's no reason why you can't do it too. If you have to, apologize. Don't throw away a lifelong relationship over Trump and Hillary.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
24. Good. I prefer not to have "friends" or family that are racists. Not everyone feels that way. n/t
Tue Sep 20, 2016, 01:38 PM
Sep 2016

Jade Fox

(10,030 posts)
3. Not to mention co-workers......
Tue Sep 20, 2016, 10:51 AM
Sep 2016

I have two co-workers I like(d) fairly well, but now can barely look in the eye because I know they are Trumpkins.

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
4. I can barely speak with...
Tue Sep 20, 2016, 11:02 AM
Sep 2016

my one and only sister. I've always known that she was a repub but Trump is a bridge too far for me so I've been avoiding her as much as possible.

mopinko

(70,202 posts)
5. i already lost most of those friends in the bush years, but
Tue Sep 20, 2016, 11:02 AM
Sep 2016

holding my breath till after the election on a new friend that is a trumpkin. not typical trumpkin. person w a good heart, just a frustrated old hippy that wants to end the wars and thinks trump will do it. yeah, i know. like i said, hoping things w settle out after the election.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
6. I used to think many of my family members were smart people
Tue Sep 20, 2016, 11:11 AM
Sep 2016

But now I'm convinced that from 1995- present they lost their minds. I blame religion for pushing cognitive dissonance and rewarding gleeful ignorance with bullshit promises of gold mansions in the sky. They've also been fed a steady diet of Fear and Loathing (thanks HST) and are either scared of boogie men or hate anything that looks different.

They've been trained and allowed their brains to suffer atrophy to the extent that they're supporting this monster (who is not religious by the slightest measure).

The engineering of the dumbest electorate is nearly complete. To what extent we'll see in November.

bulloney

(4,113 posts)
8. What makes it so maddening is that these people detested the Democratic candidates in past elections
Tue Sep 20, 2016, 11:30 AM
Sep 2016

saying, they disrespected the military, they're womanizers, they're flip-floppers, they're liars and on and on.

Then comes Trump, who has practiced these actions used to attack the Democrats to a level never seen before.

It actually reinforces what I've long believed - These people would support a Hitler/Mussolini presidential ticket if they ran as Republicans. And to give them the comfort to do this, they would listen closely to Faux Snooze and the RW talk shows for talking points on why they should support Hitler/Mussolini over anyone on the Democratic ticket.

maxsolomon

(33,388 posts)
21. IOKIYAR
Tue Sep 20, 2016, 01:08 PM
Sep 2016

they're attacking Hillary with the same rhetoric - but putting the blame for Bill's womanizing on her. old dogs learning new tricks.

niyad

(113,546 posts)
10. one of my friends (an absolute darling 80-something) is horrified by how many of her friends
Tue Sep 20, 2016, 12:03 PM
Sep 2016

back east are trumpers. there are several people I am glad are no longer in my world anyway, because I would no longer be talking to them, having learned, to my dismay, that they are trumpers.

Calculating

(2,957 posts)
12. Politics shouldn't come between friends and family
Tue Sep 20, 2016, 12:34 PM
Sep 2016

I know somebody who constantly talks about how Hillary is a criminal who should go to prison and I just ignore it honestly.

yuiyoshida

(41,853 posts)
13. Is it that they really want Trump or that
Tue Sep 20, 2016, 12:50 PM
Sep 2016

They HATE Obama and the Democrats so much, they would vote for any one off the streets if available? I wonder...

maxsolomon

(33,388 posts)
17. there is that
Tue Sep 20, 2016, 12:59 PM
Sep 2016

I was told "I'm going to hold my nose and vote for Trump". Because Hillary is worse. it's flabbergasting.

Remember: these people BELIEVE they are right.

MynameisBlarney

(2,979 posts)
15. Ain't that the damn truth?
Tue Sep 20, 2016, 12:56 PM
Sep 2016

My cousin and I haven't spoken since we got into a heated argument over his support for trump.

SpankMe

(2,965 posts)
18. I feel your pain
Tue Sep 20, 2016, 01:01 PM
Sep 2016

My wife - who used to be a camping, tomboy environmentalist, pro-animal, nature advocate has - over the last decade or so - become a ravenous right wing lunatic. The reason I don't know if she's voting Trump is because we talk ZERO politics any more. She's not religious, she does stipulate fully to global warming, and she is fully pro-choice. But, other than that, she's fallen off the right edge.

She even joined the NRA - even though we don't own guns (never have and probably never will) - claiming that she's always been in favor of gun rights. I know she just joined because the NRA is the biggest anti-Obama force out there that isn't the KKK. Guns have never been a factor in out life. They're an alien thing to the both of us. For her to suddenly join the NRA is as bizarre as it is random.

29 years of marriage, and we're as strained as we've ever been. This emerging right-wing extremism is destroying families and relationships. I have friends (Democrats and progressives) who have lost lifelong, childhood friends very recently due to vicious posts and attacks on Facebook. They feel betrayed.

DinahMoeHum

(21,806 posts)
23. Fortunately, this is NOT in my family, immediate or extended.
Tue Sep 20, 2016, 01:31 PM
Sep 2016

While some have been "rock-ribbed Republicans" for decades, even they can't stand TrumpleThinSkin.

While they may or may not vote for Hillary, at least they aren't pulling the lever for him.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
26. Check your family members facebook and Twitter, see who they lean to.
Tue Sep 20, 2016, 01:41 PM
Sep 2016

If they lean to Trump don't discuss politics with them. That's what I do.

lark

(23,155 posts)
27. So agree.
Tue Sep 20, 2016, 01:55 PM
Sep 2016

My boss is a repug through and through. I discovered this during Gore v Bush, so we never really talked about politics because I knew she wasn't trustworthy. Her son is also a repug operative who worked for Voldemort (Rick Scott) for 2 years in Tallahassee, that's how he was raised. Still, she's a VP and has a Masters degree, so I thought she wasn't stupid, just very misguided and entitled rich person. Now I find out she's supporting Drumpf. I just can't take it, how could this seemingly smart person be so stupid, so uncaring about voting for a true criminal and fraud? I'd really like to work until next Nov, to pay off my car before I retire, but I just HATE working for this awful woman. I'm now trying to figure out if I can pay enough in advance that the car is paid off by April so I can easily retire then.

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