sometimes I am ashamed and embarrassed to be a human being

[ellenrr]

typical tweet in response to Elizabeth nj bomb news:

Rapefugee Watch ?@RapefugeeWatch 5h5 hours ago
Muslim terrorists strike again in #Elizabeth, New Jersey


(btw, this was long before any suspects were talked about)

[leftynyc]

1. Person went with the odds

And now it looks as though he/she may/is probably right:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141575921

Keeping your head in the sand about the reality is not helpful.

[ellenrr]

2. I was referring to the tweeter's ID as well as the content

then again... maybe you agree with that too.

and the reality I see is that you are an Islamaphobe, and you should change your id to "rightnyc"

[leftynyc]

3. Yawn

I stopped giving a crap what anyone here thought about me living in the world of reality a very long time ago. Maybe it's because I have many friends in Chelsea and have to take both a commuter train and the subway to get to work. I can't afford to live in the world of make believe.

[ellenrr]

5. I agree. what I think of you matters not at all. but if I were you

I would find it concerning that I have a pro-hillary icon and yet my islamaphobia puts me in league with millions of trumpf fans who are tweeting right now - saying exactly the same thing as you are.

[leftynyc]

6. And I should consider myself

an Islamophobe because some anonymous poster I don't give a crap about calls me one? Sorry, real life doesn't work that way. People who ACTUALLY know me, know I'm nothing of the kind. If you want to deny the odds were with this being a Muslim committing an act of terror, that's entirely your problem.

[ellenrr]

7. yeah... keep telling yourself that...

[leftynyc]

8. Yawn

Keep you head in the sand. I guess you think that works. Or you don't live anywhere where fantasy thinking can get you in trouble -either way, it makes zero difference to me.

[ellenrr]

9. this is a du post re trump on racial profiling

you don't seem to get that that is exactly what you do.


"Trump: Racial profiling may be necessary

"We're allowing these people to come into our country and destroy our country and make it unsafe for people. We're allowing these people to come in," Trump said on "Fox & Friends."

"We don't want to do any profiling. If somebody looks like he's got a massive bomb on his back, we won't go up to that person ... because, if he looks like he comes from that part of the world, we're not allowed to profile. Give me a break."

In June, the GOP nominee said the U.S. needs to start looking into the use of profiling to stop terrorism.

He said he doesn't like the concept, but it may be necessary."

sound familiar?
to me sounds exactly like what you said.
You justify your racial profiling by saying that you have to take the train, as if one has to do with the other.

racial profiling is racial profiling

and if you want to do that, acknowledge it.

[leftynyc]

11. Your OP was calling out someone

for assuming the terrorists were Muslims. THAT's what this thread was about - not racial profiling - unless you think playing the obvious odds makes us all haters. While I was texting all my friends in Chelsea on Saturday to make sure they were all right was I assuming the culprits were Muslim terrorists? You bet your ass I was - and it looks like I was absolutely right. Funny how you want to ignore THAT part of it.

[stone space]

28. That someone has a name. "Rapefugee Watch".

Your OP was calling out someone

[LanternWaste]

29. Other than petulant satisfaction, what did the assumption bring you?

"I assuming the culprits were Muslim terrorists? You bet your ass I was..."

Other than petulant satisfaction, what did the assumption bring to you?

[leftynyc]

30. Is that question supposed to be

making some kind of sense? What the fuck is petulant satisfaction - is that playing the odds and actually being right?

[ileus]

17. You should die for the cause...it's the only way to prove you're a lefty.

It's really lost on some people that once you're dead nothing else matters.

[leftynyc]

25. I'm not willing to die

to prove I'm PC. I like the world of reality - even when it's uncomfortable, even when it's not what I would like it to be, even when it's not what it should be. I stopped caring what these morons call me a very long time ago.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

10. I have friends in Chelsea and work 2 blocks

From where this happened and it still doesn't push me into stereotyping and scapegoating people.

Maybe it's because I also have Muslim friends.

[leftynyc]

12. So do I

And they were thinking the exact same thing I was. They don't live with their heads in the sand and will be the first to scream from the rooftops that far too many of their co-religionists have become radicalized and it needs to stop. Sorry your friends want to pretend otherwise. Anyone who wants to pretend their first thoughts weren't that these were Muslim terrorists is lying to themselves which is not my problem.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

13. your muslim friends are not afraid that they too will get blamed when these things happen?

in a way that your white friends are never afraid of when one of them shoots and kills 20 kids? or shoots up a black church? or a movie theater?

[leftynyc]

14. They're NYers so they've

been dealing with this crap since 9/11. They're the ones that pointed out to me that with over 1 billion Muslims, even if only 1% were radicalized, that still means 100 million terrorists. They don't like the reality - but they don't ignore it either.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

15. So your friends are fine with someone using a rapewatch handle to describe refugees?

Reality and bigotry are not the same thing

[leftynyc]

16. I have no idea what

you're talking about? Do you?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

18. Rapefugee Watch ‏@RapefugeeWatch

that is what the OP said she objected to, when you said something about living in reality.

yes, i do know what i am talking about.

[leftynyc]

19. I don't know what that means

Does it have something to do with twitter? I don't do twitter, facebook, instagram or any other social media crap. I thought it was just mentioning the likely bombers were Muslim - that's just going with the odds.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

20. yes, that was someone's username on twitter, implying that all refugees are rapists

i feel like this is become a weird conversation. i think it's fine to think a random home made bomb is likely to have a muslim suspect, just as when there is a random shooting I think it's a young white guy, there are trends in sociopathic behavior. I am against calling refugees rapists (which maybe you are too), so maybe all of this circular conversation started with a misunderstanding of the twitter handle.

have a good day though, it's really gross in nyc!

[leftynyc]

21. Yes it's gross in NY

Last edited Mon Sep 19, 2016, 10:45 AM - Edit history (1)

Between the rain, Chelsea and the UN, the city is at a standstill. Perhaps the original poster should have made sure I knew what that mess meant before accusing me of being a hater and Islamophobe (I'm often called that here because I don't think either the US or Israel is the root of all evil). But since it was my assumption that it was Islamic extremists that seems to have set them off, I don't think the twitter crap really mattered.

Hope the weather is kinder where you are.


Edited to change US to UN in first sentence.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

23. im in brooklyn now and headed to the city later, so no the weather is shitty

[leftynyc]

24. If you're planning on subway

the delays are pretty bad but that's still your best bet. Someone in my company has been waiting over 2 hours for one of the elite car services to get them someplace.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

26. holy fuck.

[leftynyc]

27. Yup

Car company is blaming a combination of Chelsea, the rain and the UN. Underground is definitely the way to go but even then leave yourself some extra time. Good luck.

[ellenrr]

31. i took the handle to mean he thought it was ok to rape refugees.

either way it offends.

[RandiFan1290]

4. Thank you! nt

[Dreamer Tatum]

22. How'd you feel when people attributed it to Trump supporters? nt