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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 03:56 PM Sep 2016

Wil Wheaton RIPS Media Over Trump: ‘Please Stop F*cking Normalizing This Deplorable Bullsh*t’

http://winningdemocrats.com/wil-wheaton-rips-media-over-trump-please-stop-fcking-normalizing-this-deplorable-bullsht-screenshots/

Donald Trump is deplorable. His kids are deplorable. His supporters? Deplorable. In fact, one could reasonably say that the Trumps and anyone who supports them should be thrown into a container of some sort — a basket, for instance — along with all the other “deplorables” who think we should build a wall to keep brown people out of the country and bring back concentration camps.

Perhaps more “deplorable” than Trump and his supporters, however, is the way the mainstream media has handled Trump from the very beginning, treating as normal his numerous suggestions that he wants to make sweet, sweet love to his own daughter, his Muslim ban proposal, his suggestion that all Mexicans are rapists, and the numerous other — well, deplorable — things he has done and said. Trump literally bragged that he could shoot someone and not lose a single supporter, and the media treated it like he told them what day it was. This, and Trump’s numerous other remarks and actions, was quickly forgotten about as they moved on to talk about Hillary clinton’s emails, or Benghazi, or that one time she coughed, or any of the numerous other non-scandals surrounding the former Secretary of State....

This was a response to a NBC reporter eagerly slurping up Donald Trump Jr.’s recent Holocaust joke:
"They’ve let her slide on every indiscrepancy (sic), on every lie, on every DNC game trying to get Bernie Sanders out of this thing. If Republicans were doing that, they’d bewarming up the gas chamber right now.”...

Donald Trump is not normal. The things he and his brood say and do are not normal. It’s time we stop treating it as such.


So I guess that pushes his sworn enemy Sheldon Cooper into the Trump camp.
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Wil Wheaton RIPS Media Over Trump: ‘Please Stop F*cking Normalizing This Deplorable Bullsh*t’ (Original Post) KamaAina Sep 2016 OP
Who is this person? Never heard of him. yeoman6987 Sep 2016 #1
Who is this person?? Laf.La.Dem. Sep 2016 #3
Wil Wheaton seems like a nice guy. eShirl Sep 2016 #4
I prefer this one: DRoseDARs Sep 2016 #24
Now show me your warrior fierceness! 47of74 Sep 2016 #32
Well that explains it yeoman6987 Sep 2016 #9
Wil Wheaton gave me one of my best comebacks ... Ilsa Sep 2016 #22
LOL! BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2016 #30
I remember that line - it was a gem. Chemisse Sep 2016 #51
Yeah, you guys don't like it when 'Hollywood elites' voice a political opinion. n/t ronnie624 Sep 2016 #36
Star Trek! This IS the same guy! Thanks.... AllyCat Sep 2016 #42
It's too bad nobody's developed a global network of computers that would allow you to look that up. LeftyMom Sep 2016 #5
Good one, LMFAO. sarcasmo Sep 2016 #12
I just wanna say extra credit goes to sarcasmo for OriginalGeek Sep 2016 #38
+1 sarcasmo Sep 2016 #47
Rec malaise Sep 2016 #44
... progressoid Sep 2016 #7
Someone opposed to what seems like your candidate. Kingofalldems Sep 2016 #14
"Who is this person?" left-of-center2012 Sep 2016 #15
Lol! BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2016 #31
Star trek.. next gen. 20 years ago Liberal_in_LA Sep 2016 #39
WHAT??? Who is WW? Chicago1980 Sep 2016 #40
And don't forget... lisby Sep 2016 #48
Another reason to like Wil Wheaton! Laf.La.Dem. Sep 2016 #2
Who? Initech Sep 2016 #19
Newflash Liberalagogo Sep 2016 #6
It's not the media's job to censor "news". Abq_Sarah Sep 2016 #8
Censor the news, no. Report fairly on the news, yes! Stonepounder Sep 2016 #10
Indeed. Objective truth has been replaced with "balanced" n/t TexasBushwhacker Sep 2016 #16
Um, I don't believe he asked that they "Censor" news...that would mean keeping secret... Moonwalk Sep 2016 #21
Nicely put. n/t ronnie624 Sep 2016 #37
Did u even comprehend the article gabeana Sep 2016 #23
Forcing News Into Set Narratives Is Censorship TomCADem Sep 2016 #26
that went completely over your head Skittles Sep 2016 #29
. anamandujano Sep 2016 #33
WHAT? SusanCalvin Sep 2016 #35
excuse me. They weren't ask to censor anything, but to stop giving a free pass to a racist still_one Sep 2016 #41
Until Reagan became President we had this little thing called the Fairness Doctrine justiceischeap Sep 2016 #43
Yes!..There was no "liberal news" or "conservative news and certainly no hate radio whathehell Sep 2016 #46
I'm under 50 (barely) but I study history justiceischeap Sep 2016 #50
Thank YOU! smirkymonkey Sep 2016 #11
Dark Matter SCVDem Sep 2016 #13
Actually Shankapotomus Sep 2016 #17
Once again Wesley Crusher steps up to save the day Auggie Sep 2016 #18
Sheldon and Wil are friends now on the show. Sheldon takes pride in it too. Funny switch. nt TeamPooka Sep 2016 #20
And he is not above playing the MeeMaw card! tavernier Sep 2016 #25
Maybe Racism, Sexism, Homophpbia, and Religious Intolerance TomCADem Sep 2016 #27
Well said Soxfan58 Sep 2016 #28
NORMALIZING! THAT'S IT! SusanCalvin Sep 2016 #34
a man is known by the company he keeps Protalker Sep 2016 #45
I Saw WW Give a Talk a Few Years Ago Leith Sep 2016 #49

Laf.La.Dem.

(2,943 posts)
3. Who is this person??
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 04:06 PM
Sep 2016

Richard William "Wil" Wheaton III (born July 29, 1972) is an American actor, blogger, voice actor, and writer. He is known for his portrayals of Wesley Crusher on the television series Star Trek: The Next Generation, Gordie Lachance in the film Stand by Me, Joey Trotta in Toy Soldiers, and his recurring role as a fictionalized version of himself on the CBS sitcom The Big Bang Theory.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
22. Wil Wheaton gave me one of my best comebacks ...
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 05:53 PM
Sep 2016

playing himself on The Big Bang Theory. Brent Spiner (Mr. Data, an android on STNG) was a guest in the episode.

Sheldon Cooper had already told WW he was his mortal enemy. When Sheldon threatens Brent Spiner with, "You are now my mortal enemy," Wheaton turns to Spiner and says, "Don't worry. It doesn't take up alot of your time."

I've applied various forms of that to minimize importance of events that get some people's panties in a knot.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
38. I just wanna say extra credit goes to sarcasmo for
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 12:08 AM
Sep 2016

Being the first to like the sarcasm. Which also gets extra credit because that shit was funny.

lisby

(408 posts)
48. And don't forget...
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 10:35 AM
Sep 2016

...his appearances in Welcome to Night Vale as Tourniquet's executive chef LaShawn Mason, who was previously a sous chef for Night Vale's top-rated fine dining establishment, Shame.

All Hail The Glow Cloud.

Abq_Sarah

(2,883 posts)
8. It's not the media's job to censor "news".
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 05:09 PM
Sep 2016

It's not their job to tell people what to think. It's not their job to play cheerleader, though they do it on a regular basis. Put his statements out there and most people have no problem uncovering the crazy.

Wheaton needs to go back to playing make believe. I don't want a media that pretends something doesn't exist just because it makes people feel uncomfortable.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
10. Censor the news, no. Report fairly on the news, yes!
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 05:19 PM
Sep 2016

And the media is NOT doing that. News interviewers regularly allow Trump and his surrogates lie with impunity and never call them on it, give them almost unlimited air time, and desperately try to find negatives about Hillary to somehow 'keep things balanced'. And I call Bull Shit on that.

You can't call yourself a journalist when you put a steaming pile of bull crap on one side of a balance scale and a reasoned set of ideas on the other and call them 'equivalent'. And you can't take a dog-whistle call for someone to assassinate your opponent and try and balance it with 'should she have disclosed her pneumonia sooner?'

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
21. Um, I don't believe he asked that they "Censor" news...that would mean keeping secret...
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 05:53 PM
Sep 2016

...something important that everyone should know. This as compared to picking and choosing what news to report. That can't be called censorship because ALL news organizations pick and choose news that they think matters/will be of interest. It's why you get the news of a big hurricane in another state, even though it doesn't affect you, but not news of bad air quality from some distant city. Because if a city a thousand miles away from you is having a bad-air-quality day, you don't need to know that. But you might want to know about a typhoon that killed thousands in China.

So if W.W. is suggesting that the news is picking and choosing badly, he might well have a point. Not everything Trump says, does or thinks is news. And not all of it need be reported as if it's a typhoon that just killed thousands in China.

As for it not being the job of news reporters to tell people what to think...correct. However, when the Hindenburg crashed and the news reporter shouted, "It's terrible! Oh the humanity!" he wasn't telling anyone what to think. He was saying what he thought on seeing a disaster. That's perfectly "legal" among news reporters. Walter Cronkite took off his glasses and wiped tears from his eyes after announcing Kennedy's death. That's not telling people what to think. That's simply being human. And that is ALLOWED. Unless, that is, you want the news reported by robots.

Now, I'm not saying that Trump's verbiage matches any such dramatic events. BUT if the reporters act disturbed while discussing Hillary's emails, etc. but not what Trump says, then they ARE telling people what to think and we SHOULD point that out and be angry about it. Because then they are altering the news into propaganda. And I think THAT is the point W.W. is making. That reporters are happy to express their shock and horror over Hillary, but pretend that there is nothing abnormal in Trump saying "warm up the gas chamber." Either the reporters should be "robots" for both, or express shock where shock is warranted.

As for playing make-believe...we will agree that being an actor doesn't give his opinion more credibility. But it doesn't give it less, either. I think he has some valid points, and I'm not going to dismiss them just because acting is his profession. Putting it another way, you can argue against the validity of his opinion, but you can't argue against it simply because he's an actor. Do that, and your opinion could be summarily dismissed because of your profession, no matter how valid or invalid it was. A dangerous precedent, don't you agree?

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
35. WHAT?
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 10:26 PM
Sep 2016

Yeah, put his statements out there.

THEN PUT THEM IN CONTEXT AND FACT CHECK THEM.

Uh, what's missing from this picture?

still_one

(92,204 posts)
41. excuse me. They weren't ask to censor anything, but to stop giving a free pass to a racist
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 07:37 AM
Sep 2016

sexist deplorable, who lies on every other statement he makes

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
43. Until Reagan became President we had this little thing called the Fairness Doctrine
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 08:09 AM
Sep 2016

It had worked really well but Conservative Republicans decided if they could get rid of the fairness doctrine it would be easier to use the news as a tool for propaganda, thus giving rise to Faux News and right-wing radio that has since shaped the nations' political and news landscape.

If you have no problem with the way thto media handles "news" you are part of the problem.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
46. Yes!..There was no "liberal news" or "conservative news and certainly no hate radio
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 08:42 AM
Sep 2016

Th e Fairness Doctrine discouraged such things...It must be hard for those under 50 to imagine, but
America was a very different country.

It wasn't all roses, of course, but the degree to which it's been dumbed down and gone Right would have
been hard to imagine then, seriously.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
50. I'm under 50 (barely) but I study history
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 11:54 AM
Sep 2016

So when I rail about something I'm as educated on the subject as I can be. I vaguely remember Uncle Walter on the evening news and had a sense that he was unbiased and trustworthy. I don't get that sense from anyone "reading" the news these days because it's so obviously profit-driven. When something is profit-driven there's no way in hell you can trust that source for "news."

The best we can do now days is look at multiple sources and determine for ourselves what is closest to the truth.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
27. Maybe Racism, Sexism, Homophpbia, and Religious Intolerance
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 07:00 PM
Sep 2016

Are the new normal. Time to roll back the diversity and advances in gender equality?

Maybe the media just needs to be more honest about the fact that many Trump's supporters share strongly Trump's beliefs.

Protalker

(418 posts)
45. a man is known by the company he keeps
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 08:34 AM
Sep 2016

Trump who has Bannon who has made Breitbart a home for white supremists Roger Ailes who Fox settled one case of sexual harasment and paid out 20 million dollars and Kelly who was so loyal to Cruz until the money stopped.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
49. I Saw WW Give a Talk a Few Years Ago
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 11:34 AM
Sep 2016

I was at a Star Trek convention and I had time to kill between other scheduled events, so I went to see Wheaton. All I can say is that I don't remember what else I saw, but Wheaton's talk was fantastic! That guy really has his stuff together and is very interesting to listen to.

He nailed Donnie, the media, and the political circus that the US has become.

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