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aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 04:08 PM Sep 2016

GOP Lawmaker who voted to repeal state's motorcycle helmet law... dies in motorcycle crash.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/13/health/lawmaker-dies-in-motorcycle-crash-trnd/index.html



A Michigan state lawmaker who voted to repeal universal helmet laws has died in a motorcycle crash, according to Michigan State Police.

Rep. Peter Pettalia was riding southbound on M-33 in northern Michigan late Monday afternoon when a pickup truck turned left into his lane. His motorcycle broadsided the pickup. Pettalia was wearing a helmet at the time of the crash, police said. The driver of the truck, a 59-year-old woman, was not injured, police said.

Pettalia, 61, a Republican from Presque Isle, was an advocate for motorcyclists' rights and had served the state's District 106 since he was elected in 2010.

In 2012, he voted to repeal universal helmet laws for all motorcycle riders over the age of 20. Michigan is one of 28 states that do not have laws requiring all motorcyclists to wear helmets, according to the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety.

House Speaker Kevin Cotter called his death shocking.


Full story at link.

At least he was smart enough to wear a helmet.
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GOP Lawmaker who voted to repeal state's motorcycle helmet law... dies in motorcycle crash. (Original Post) aaaaaa5a Sep 2016 OP
But he had the Freedumb to ride without a helmet nt doc03 Sep 2016 #1
He was truck by car-ma. kairos12 Sep 2016 #2
Boom Shaka Laka Funtatlaguy Sep 2016 #3
Really ? FreeDUMB? NashuaDW Sep 2016 #5
So you are saying he would be alive if he wasn't wearing a helmet. doc03 Sep 2016 #6
Uh, about your "nanny state" comment.... louis-t Sep 2016 #7
Enjoy your stay lunatica Sep 2016 #8
Sounds to me your in favor of society paying for stupidity. GeorgeGist Sep 2016 #10
From the linked article bighart Sep 2016 #11
I hope he had an organ donor card gratuitous Sep 2016 #4
A helmet wouldn't have helped him in this case jmowreader Sep 2016 #9
Yep, motorcycling is risky, but it's a hell of a lot of fun. LuvNewcastle Sep 2016 #12
BT, DT. I think swimming is "the closest....." WinkyDink Sep 2016 #16
The post WWII motorcycling craze was started by former aircrew members Major Nikon Sep 2016 #17
I didn't know that. LuvNewcastle Sep 2016 #20
Many of the post WWII motorcycle gangs can trace their history to aircrews Major Nikon Sep 2016 #22
Thanks for the link. LuvNewcastle Sep 2016 #24
It sounds like he got plastered REP Sep 2016 #15
The tax payers are on the hook for the medical bills. yortsed snacilbuper Sep 2016 #13
In the immortal words of Condoleezza: ""I don't think anybody could have predicted...." WinkyDink Sep 2016 #14
What good did the helmet do him... lame54 Sep 2016 #18
of course you don't Skittles Sep 2016 #23
There is a reason ER doctors call them "Donorcycles" smirkymonkey Sep 2016 #19
I ride. I also happen to live in a state with no helmet requirement. Glassunion Sep 2016 #21

NashuaDW

(90 posts)
5. Really ? FreeDUMB?
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 04:37 PM
Sep 2016

Seems exceptionally judgemental from someone who probably has no idea what they're talking about.

For the record - he WAS wearing a helmet at the time of the accident.
For the record - over half of the states DO NOT require helmets

Sounds to me like you favor a nanny state type law requiring them.

Care to explain the pejorative spelling?

doc03

(35,376 posts)
6. So you are saying he would be alive if he wasn't wearing a helmet.
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 04:45 PM
Sep 2016

If you ride a motorcycle and don't wear a helmet you are dumb. Every day the EMTs scape the brains up from one of
those bad ass cyclists that want their fucking freedom to die. He was unlucky but that helmet could have saved his life.

louis-t

(23,297 posts)
7. Uh, about your "nanny state" comment....
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 04:46 PM
Sep 2016

Since Michigan did away with the law requiring a helmet, the number of deaths on motorcycles has gone up. So, I'm assuming you're not one of those people who claim the death toll will "go down with out all of those useless laws"?

edit: by the way, this is the very conservative Detroit News.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/2016/06/07/motorcycle-deaths-helmet-law/85581388/

bighart

(1,565 posts)
11. From the linked article
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 06:00 PM
Sep 2016

"Rep. Peter Pettalia was riding southbound on M-33 in northern Michigan late Monday afternoon when a pickup truck turned left into his lane. His motorcycle broadsided the pickup. Pettalia was wearing a helmet at the time of the crash, police said. The driver of the truck, a 59-year-old woman, was not injured, police said."

Exactly what stupidity was he engaged in?
The stupitdity was on the part of the driver of the pickup truck don't cha think?

I have had friends killed on bikes in exactly the same way and it WASN"T BECAUSE THEY WERE ENGAGING IN STUPIDITY, IT WAS ENTIRELY THE FAULT OF THE OTHER DRIVER!!!!!!!!!!

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
9. A helmet wouldn't have helped him in this case
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 05:09 PM
Sep 2016

Plastering yourself against the side of a truck when you're going 55 mph will kill ya every time.

LuvNewcastle

(16,856 posts)
12. Yep, motorcycling is risky, but it's a hell of a lot of fun.
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 06:17 PM
Sep 2016

People who don't ride don't understand the feeling you get when you're on your bike. It's the closest you can get to flying without leaving the ground. Like all things enjoyable there is risk involved, and everybody crashes at least once in their lives. Fate decides who gets up and who doesn't.

LuvNewcastle

(16,856 posts)
20. I didn't know that.
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 07:29 PM
Sep 2016

I knew it was begun by people who were in the military, but didn't know it was air crew members. Very appropriate.

LuvNewcastle

(16,856 posts)
24. Thanks for the link.
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 08:27 PM
Sep 2016

I should've known that the Hell's Angels were started by people who flew bomber missions and other members of air crews. Those guys were fearless! They were a unique bunch, for sure.

REP

(21,691 posts)
15. It sounds like he got plastered
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 06:31 PM
Sep 2016

From the article cited, it sounds as though the pickup truck was at fault. I've seen a lot of drivers blissfully unaware of an object the size of my (bright red) small two-seat coupe; a motorcycle can disappear in a blind spot as narrow as a ballpoint pen.

yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)
13. The tax payers are on the hook for the medical bills.
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 06:25 PM
Sep 2016

If said motorcyclist is brain damaged
,somebody is going to have to change his diapers for 20 years or so.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
21. I ride. I also happen to live in a state with no helmet requirement.
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 07:39 PM
Sep 2016

I wear a helmet every single time I ride. Period. It should be a universal law requiring the use of the DOT approved (SNELL would be better) helmet.

Just like the seatbelt, they do save lives. Sadly, this was not one of those times.

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