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kpete

(72,006 posts)
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 08:17 AM Sep 2016

Go Hillary. He truly has no idea what he’s stepping into.

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
While Hillary said horrible things about my supporters, and while many of her supporters will never vote for me, I still respect them all!
11:18 AM - 10 Sep 2016
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/774673449885192192?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


Hillary Clinton ✔ @HillaryClinton
Except for African Americans, Muslims, Latinos, immigrants, women, veterans—and any so-called "losers" or "dummies." https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/774673449885192192
12:04 PM - 10 Sep 2016
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https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/774685012335726592?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


Maybe it's time to give Clinton just a little bit of credit for calling this bullshit out.
The rest of the Democratic Party has been crawling on their bellies for these people for years.
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2016/09/remember-who-destroyed-acorn.html
http://www.alternet.org/story/66062/the_art_of_the_hissy_fit
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Go Hillary. He truly has no idea what he’s stepping into. (Original Post) kpete Sep 2016 OP
K&R livetohike Sep 2016 #1
Nope she was way too generalized humbled_opinion Sep 2016 #2
no need kpete Sep 2016 #3
In big bold letters at that madokie Sep 2016 #4
Sounds great in the echo humbled_opinion Sep 2016 #24
I'm sorry, but the undecideds who are affected by this, already dislike Trump ConservativeDemocrat Sep 2016 #43
Then punch him ! humbled_opinion Sep 2016 #48
She needs more truth telling. Not less. Cobalt Violet Sep 2016 #46
What she said was just perfect. La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2016 #11
Is your spine made of steel or jelly? RBInMaine Sep 2016 #17
My spine isn't the problem.... humbled_opinion Sep 2016 #26
How is what HRC said "crap"? Please expand on what "this kind of crap" means to you... Hekate Sep 2016 #31
OMG... Her generalizing a statement humbled_opinion Sep 2016 #32
I agree with you--completely. gratefultobelib Sep 2016 #33
disagree completely ArcticFox Sep 2016 #36
Again you fail to see the generalization humbled_opinion Sep 2016 #49
you've no idea about statistics ArcticFox Sep 2016 #50
If there were statistics to support humbled_opinion Sep 2016 #51
I call bullshit on that. Tortmaster Sep 2016 #44
Poor fool malaise Sep 2016 #5
here are the tweets from twitter napkinz Sep 2016 #6
Trump does not respect anybody but himself. What a liar. nruthie Sep 2016 #7
She left out... jaxind Sep 2016 #8
Yup. That's my one critique of this too. La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2016 #12
And GWC58 Sep 2016 #29
Is it just me? Cracklin Charlie Sep 2016 #9
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2016 #27
Here's what worries me... ewagner Sep 2016 #10
Their base will already turn out for him La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2016 #13
Fuck their base... Wounded Bear Sep 2016 #14
Here's where I'm coming from ewagner Sep 2016 #20
Wisconsin Republicans have gotten fat off of ... Tortmaster Sep 2016 #45
Sounds like you think we should be afraid to talk back to Dipsht Don world wide wally Sep 2016 #18
No. Not at all. ewagner Sep 2016 #19
There's technically NOT enough of their "base", they're dying .. 40% of America is PoC now uponit7771 Sep 2016 #21
well... ewagner Sep 2016 #22
Open primary, not at all comparable here on the same note I do think if we focus on down ballots uponit7771 Sep 2016 #23
His base has already been energized by his base remarks. anamandujano Sep 2016 #30
They use the fact that she's a woman to energize their base. ehrnst Sep 2016 #34
K&R napkinz Sep 2016 #15
K&R gademocrat7 Sep 2016 #16
Agreed Rocknrule Sep 2016 #25
She's going to kick tRump! lonestarnot Sep 2016 #28
I was able to give it the 100th recommenation n//t Mira Sep 2016 #35
Please Proceed.. HipChick Sep 2016 #37
Thom Hartmann says that a great thing about Hillary (among many things), is that she can take names Akamai Sep 2016 #38
Must See TV - C-Span Q & A: The Making of Donald Trump mobeau69 Sep 2016 #39
Why is it so bad to call this liar a liar ? kacekwl Sep 2016 #40
As a Bernie bro and an atheist Scruffy1 Sep 2016 #41
I Can't Rec This Enough Yallow Sep 2016 #42
No second fiddle anymore bucolic_frolic Sep 2016 #47

humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
24. Sounds great in the echo
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 04:22 PM
Sep 2016

chamber, but seriously in the real world, undecided's (which there are a high amount this cycle) don't like this sort of generalized attack about such a large number of Americans. Granted she did qualify that she regretted saying half, but would have been better if had just put the label on the candidate not the supporters.

ConservativeDemocrat

(2,720 posts)
43. I'm sorry, but the undecideds who are affected by this, already dislike Trump
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 03:56 AM
Sep 2016

I subscribe to Josh Micah Marshall's view that this is "dominance politics". Trump won the GOP nod because he was the biggest bully.

The way you defeat a bully is to punch him in the nose.

There is such a thing as being too polite.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

Cobalt Violet

(9,905 posts)
46. She needs more truth telling. Not less.
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 07:42 AM
Sep 2016

It's more than 1/2 of Trump supporters who are deplorable. She was being too nice.

Hekate

(90,769 posts)
31. How is what HRC said "crap"? Please expand on what "this kind of crap" means to you...
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 05:57 PM
Sep 2016

...and why you think it needs defending.

Inquiring minds want to know.

humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
32. OMG... Her generalizing a statement
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 07:38 PM
Sep 2016

about millions of Americans. It amazes me how people on here can't see how screwed up that comment was, I am glad she walked it back, but the point was when you attack the American people you are losing the argument.

ArcticFox

(1,249 posts)
36. disagree completely
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 11:08 PM
Sep 2016

She aimed that at Trump supporters, not the American people. And if anything, she's under, not over the true mark.

For who can deny these supporters are supporting bigotry, xenophobia, willful ignorance, threats of violence?

Trump is all these things and they support him.

humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
49. Again you fail to see the generalization
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 10:38 AM
Sep 2016

versus targeting specific supporters. So let me show you two military members, which half are racists? Let me show you two minorities that support Trump, which ones are deplorable? You can't even see how ignorant it is to say Trumps supporters are not Americans.

This is the kind of crap that the rightwing do, why is it being done here?

ArcticFox

(1,249 posts)
50. you've no idea about statistics
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 02:55 PM
Sep 2016

Nor have you responded to my points.

And no, this does not equate to "the rightwing do[es]".

Tortmaster

(382 posts)
44. I call bullshit on that.
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 06:15 AM
Sep 2016

Trump, one of his sons, or a surrogate make it easy every day. Glad to see Secretary Clinton call out the nasty. Also, her "half" response was like an old vaudeville punchline. Loved it!

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
9. Is it just me?
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 10:02 AM
Sep 2016

Or does Ms. Hillary seem to be the perfect candidate to beat hell out of Assface's run for the presidency?

Grannies don't take no crap!

Response to Cracklin Charlie (Reply #9)

ewagner

(18,964 posts)
10. Here's what worries me...
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 10:09 AM
Sep 2016

I'm afraid that the Breitbart scandal factory will use this statement to energize their base

AND...

Use it as a rallying cry to drive more people to the polls under the "I hate Hillary " banner.

Not sure yet how to counter this although tRump and his people have been pretty successful at "doubling down" on any particular lie, gaff, misquote, misrepresentation etc...maybe that's the technique to use here.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
13. Their base will already turn out for him
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 10:26 AM
Sep 2016

This helps college educated whites and other non racist whites wonder if they should be supporting someone whose base is the alt right

Wounded Bear

(58,689 posts)
14. Fuck their base...
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 10:33 AM
Sep 2016

it's not enough to get him elected, at least not legitimately. And I dont think many folks will stay home this cycle. Our base is energized, too. I don't think Independents will flock to this asshole.

Typically, "driving more people to the polls" favors Democrats.

ewagner

(18,964 posts)
20. Here's where I'm coming from
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 11:34 AM
Sep 2016

I live in Central Wisconsin where I've watched Dems and progressives "sit out" two, maybe three elections and let Scott Walker and his right wing Supreme Court nominees win.

Trumps strategy (if there really is such a thing) appears to be to drive Hillary's "negatives" through the roof to discourage Dems who weakly support Hillary from turning out on election day. He's hired the idiots at Breitbart to keep the "Clinton Scandal Machine" going at full speed for just that purpose.

Driving Trump's negatives up is okay...and, in fact a damned good strategy...firing up his base isn't.

btw...Like your screen name, that's what my wife calls me when I get pissed off!!

Tortmaster

(382 posts)
45. Wisconsin Republicans have gotten fat off of ...
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 06:20 AM
Sep 2016

... off year elections. It's time to pay the piper. Russ Feingold will see to that.

By Tuesday, November 8, 2016, I want every person who isn't a racist, misogynist, xenophobe or idiot to look with complete revulsion at Mr. Deplorable and his minions. This is a good start.

ewagner

(18,964 posts)
19. No. Not at all.
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 11:29 AM
Sep 2016

Talking back to this hair-brained idiot (pun intended) is fine, just don't play into their strategy.

uponit7771

(90,348 posts)
21. There's technically NOT enough of their "base", they're dying .. 40% of America is PoC now
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 11:58 AM
Sep 2016

... and 60% of the DNC is white.

We have to energize our base and we when.. not enough of GOP base to win nationally

ewagner

(18,964 posts)
22. well...
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 12:04 PM
Sep 2016

That's what we thought in Wisconsin too....

Not wanting to argue with you...and I know the numbers you're referring too...but I've seen Repubs use the tactic before and ....dammit...it sometimes (two or three times in Wisconsin) it works

Just trying to make my fellow DUers of aware of the pitfalls..

uponit7771

(90,348 posts)
23. Open primary, not at all comparable here on the same note I do think if we focus on down ballots
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 01:43 PM
Sep 2016

... then we'll over perform on presidential and will keeps us focused on not just winning the white house.

The GOP is become a scary force to me, I'm black... I don't know about my America after the GOP gets done with it

anamandujano

(7,004 posts)
30. His base has already been energized by his base remarks.
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 04:45 PM
Sep 2016

Everything Trump says and the way his supporters cheer him on has scared the voters. They can't double down on anything. They are vile. Nobody with any survival instinct is going to sit this one out.

Anyone who is so feeble minded that they can't see Trump and his basket cases for what they are needs to have it spelled out. If that fails, they are unreachable.

What Hillary said needed to be said. We can intuit from our nausea at the way the prostituted press bolsters Trump's lunatic world that the voting public is also beyond sick of his shit.

Braindead prostituted media, you are all guilty and we won't forget you ever. You will not be able to talk yourselves out of this. During the last few elections, more and more have deserted your twisted musings. We can all write dissertations on you. You will all go down in history but not the way you wanted. Kapish?

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
34. They use the fact that she's a woman to energize their base.
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 10:17 PM
Sep 2016

And every time she's asked about the statement, she gets to get in yet another opportunity to point out the racist groups that are endorsing him.

I think that the more she reminds people that he is the favorite candidate of racists, she gives the GOP voters who cringe at his racism another reason to jump ship.

Rocknrule

(5,697 posts)
25. Agreed
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 04:24 PM
Sep 2016

I'm sick of Democrats asking "how high?" whenever Republicans order them to jump. Congress nowadays is like watching a cobra hiss at a mouse all day. Time for the Dems to grow a spine.

 

Akamai

(1,779 posts)
38. Thom Hartmann says that a great thing about Hillary (among many things), is that she can take names
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 11:15 PM
Sep 2016

and kick BUTT!

You bet! Name and shame! And also point out the very real differences between Republicans and Democrats. None of this stuff that we can at all trust any nationally known Republican with the future of the country.

Which of them said that the Birtherism was BS? Or that climate change is real? We don't solve all of our problems with lowering taxes on the richest? or....

Go Hillary!

mobeau69

(11,152 posts)
39. Must See TV - C-Span Q & A: The Making of Donald Trump
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 11:21 PM
Sep 2016

Q&A with David Cay Johnston David Cay Johnston talked about this book The Making of Donald Trump, in which he takes a critical look at the 2016 Republican presidential nominee.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?414381-1/qa-david-cay-johnston

kacekwl

(7,021 posts)
40. Why is it so bad to call this liar a liar ?
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 11:38 PM
Sep 2016

Seriously how many people out there haven't already decided who they will vote for .

Scruffy1

(3,256 posts)
41. As a Bernie bro and an atheist
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 12:14 AM
Sep 2016

I'm really thinking about praying for her. So much better than Dumpster Fire. I'll be knocking on doors in my precinct to GOTV.

 

Yallow

(1,926 posts)
42. I Can't Rec This Enough
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 12:55 AM
Sep 2016

In your face Lying Cheeto.

Trump's supporters are worse then he is, and that is saying a lot.

bucolic_frolic

(43,252 posts)
47. No second fiddle anymore
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 08:09 AM
Sep 2016

Hockey coach Herb Brooks once said, paraphrasing, 'if you don't
dictate to them, they will dictate to you.'

Why has this been so hard for our party to grasp? Walter Mondale
had one moment of calling them out, Bill Clinton stayed above the
fray and compromised with them, John Kerry intellectualized them
to death but no one listened, Obama controlled the news cycle but
then appeased the same financial backers.

If you're going to win the war, you're going to have to offend somebody.

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