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The picture shows Birmingham police Officer Michelle Burton holding a baby whose parents had just overdosed. The father died and the mother is still in the hospital.
Burton ended up staying with the baby and her three siblings for more than six hours following the incident.
Burton's husband posted the picture on social media last week, praising his wife.
However, family members of the baby shown in the picture were not happy.
http://www.wcvb.com/news/police-department-faces-backlash-over-photo-of-officer-comforting-baby/41611062?utm_source=Social&utm_medium=FBPAGE&utm_campaign=WCVB%20Channel%205%20Boston%20-%20wcvb5&Content%20Type=Story
I agree, do not use children of persons who have overdosed to prove points or make yourself look good or someone else bad on social media. Jesus H. Christ.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)I am sorry for the family, but I don't see any such comparison to the picture of the two parents ODing in their car. Not even close.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)not the comforting shoulder. Private use of the child's photo a big no-no. The husband should not have had access to the photo either.
Rex
(65,616 posts)A little too late, but yeah I guess so.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)mountain grammy
(26,648 posts)boston bean
(36,223 posts)social media accounts was wrong!
And his wife's (agreement) in him doing so, makes her very wrong as well.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Private display of photos of the baby 100% wrong.
boston bean
(36,223 posts)private social media accounts is 100% wrong.
Jesus. I agree with you. Thanks!
cwydro
(51,308 posts)But the family is upset with her instead of the neglectful parents.
No words.
boston bean
(36,223 posts)on a police officers own personal social media.
Mosby
(16,350 posts)boston bean
(36,223 posts)How the heck would i know?
Mariana
(14,860 posts)You know, even when a family member knows perfectly well that the parent(s) shouldn't have the children, they can't just forcibly take them. Kidnapping is illegal.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)and share that on social media as well.
Honestly, I'd be happy if the SWAT team that threw the flash grenade into baby bou-bou's crib faced sanctions.
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/infant-responsible-grenade-thrown-face/
The sad thing is, they won't and this officer probably will.
boston bean
(36,223 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)boston bean
(36,223 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)I agree, imo there is a slippery slope to outrage when it comes to pics.
JanMichael
(24,890 posts)Quantess
(27,630 posts)Poor kid.
boston bean
(36,223 posts)wheniwasincongress
(1,307 posts)I don't know why this is so hard for people to understand... Where the rest of the baby's family was is complely irrelevant to the police taking pictures of kids and posting them online without the family's permission...
ProfessorGAC
(65,168 posts)I understand what Bean is saying completely. I just don't agree.
Skittles
(153,193 posts)GOT IT
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)put that photo on billboards, TV, etc., with the names of drug treatment resources.
Chemisse
(30,817 posts)But posting the picture on social media is wrong. The baby may only be 2 months old, but she has the right to privacy.
It's not 'hang-them-by-their-toenails' wrong, but it is wrong.
NBachers
(17,136 posts)Angel Martin
(942 posts)the country would be doing a lot better.
JanMichael
(24,890 posts)Laffy Kat
(16,386 posts)Police officer's husband used very poor judgement. I'm sure this violates HIPAA in some way. This was certainly a violation of that family's privacy.
Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)They released the photograph and story to media, without proper, responsible consent from close family members. [chineze satellite ode by their online agents = grade "F" ]
Massacure
(7,526 posts)It wouldn't surprise me if there is a departmental policy or law of some time that prohibits identifying juvenile victims, but I doubt it is HIPAA.
tymorial
(3,433 posts)Nt
Laffy Kat
(16,386 posts)And you are probably right but I'm not sure. HIPAA regulations extend to entities that interact with healthcare facilities, such as contractors and other agencies.
gopiscrap
(23,765 posts)used an innocent baby for their fucking propaganda.
philosslayer
(3,076 posts)GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)The poor baby in the car until relatives came? Because God forbid she comfort the poor thing and people think we'll of a police officer. What if a news reporter had taken the photo? What's the difference. But it is what happened. It is news.
Too bad the parents were not so concerned.
And no, I have little sympathy for parents who OD with their infant in the car.
tblue37
(65,487 posts)Skittles
(153,193 posts)ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)And sadly, it's not a gimmick (like some others)
Skittles
(153,193 posts)you don't know me, armchair analyst
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)I was talking about who you were replying to.
Skittles
(153,193 posts)I get that a lot
Hekate
(90,793 posts)I can't believe the bile being spewed by "compassionate" liberals.
Skittles
(153,193 posts)seriously
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)but this won't even be recognizable in a few months. Babies change that fast! It's not like the baby's privacy was violated.
Laffy Kat
(16,386 posts)TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)It's not like he published medical records, for goodness' sake!
Again, if the child was older and in school this would be very wrong, imo.
However, this is simply a little anonymous baby in that picture, and the baby will not be recognized in a couple of months. Anyone who's been around babies know that they change that fast.
It's much ado about nothing, imo. That family has a lot of reasons to be upset, but that shouldn't be one of them unless they have ulterior motives.
boston bean
(36,223 posts)Invasion of privacy for the child and family. And in no way should cops Be posting pictures of victims on their own personal social media. And make no mistake. This baby is a victim. Not only of its parents actions but now the poor decisions of police in an effort to what?? Make themselves look good. Shame the family? It certainly was not posted in an effort to help the baby. Cops are paid to do these jobs. Did she do it well? I assume she did, until she dcided to use that child to her own benefit.
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)Her husband posted the picture on his Facebook page. "She" didn't post the photo.
Did he list the baby's name, parents' name, and address?
I must be missing something here.
The family members are the ones keeping this baby in the news!
philosslayer
(3,076 posts)This was a staged event meant to exploit this child for the cops own benefit
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)Oh, wait.
It's obvious she meant to exploit a little black baby. Wicked, wicked white woman cop!
/sarcasm
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)philosslayer
(3,076 posts)boston bean
(36,223 posts)Facebook page.
I think using children to shame parents or punish parents is disgusting. I also think it is disgusting for one, especially in public service, to use children in this fashion.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Parents that OD in the car with their infant probably deserve a dose of shaming. And it sounds like they took care of the punishing themselves.
Attacking the cops for caring for an almost orphaned infant is not really a viable strategy for building support for law enforcement reform.
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...that this was a staged event to exploit the child for the cops benefit. How are they benefitting? You seem to know.
philosslayer
(3,076 posts)Pure and simple.
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)Got it.
philosslayer
(3,076 posts)n/t
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)"Last night, my wife Michelle Burton told me she would be late getting off work because of call she was on where the parents of 4 small children had both overdosed, Brian Burton wrote in his post. She spent the rest of the night taking care of these babies. She got home at 4 this morning. Ive never seen her more beautiful than in this picture. What an incredible woman."
No personal info about the kids, it was on his personal Facebook as far as I can tell. No mention of police. Just a post in support of his wife. I found that in this WaPo article:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/inspired-life/wp/2016/09/03/touching-photo-shows-police-officer-comforting-baby-whose-parents-overdosed/
There is no exploitation here. At all.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Last edited Sun Sep 11, 2016, 09:59 PM - Edit history (1)
She is a cop. The are all fucking evil. Stop posting stuff that makes it seem like they may actually care. Haven't you heard the latest rules...if you want to be considered a 'progressive' you must hate the cops.TipTok
(2,474 posts)... that family probably isn't the best at assessment and decision making.
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)That doesn't mean I am from the planet Mars.
philosslayer
(3,076 posts)If one of YOUR childrens' picture was plastered all over the Internet by the police without your permission ?
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)Is it because I consider getting high to escape my problems more important than the safety and well being of that child?
If that was the case, I would blame myself for creating the situation to begin with. Then again, I feel honor and responsibility and self control are universal obligations.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)The officer did her job, and did it well. The little guy needed someone, and the woman knew it. If someone wants to take this to court, better not have me on the jury.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Adalane also added that some family members first learned about the baby's parents overdosing by seeing the picture on social media.
The parents were unavailable to give permission as they had drugged themselves into a lethal stupor.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)This isn't outrage worthy.
aikoaiko
(34,183 posts)But that picture is the least of that child's problems
bagelsforbreakfast
(1,427 posts)They are simply ashamed of (and, on behalf of) themselves, because it might draw attention and reflect on them. {The baby will sleep through this}.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)CPS or contact a family member to watch the children?
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)Of all the huge problems that child and the family face from what is happening, a picture that didn't include the name or ID the baby or family shouldn't be anywhere on their list of priorities to be focused on.
But it is.
Because they see it as a chance to try and make a fuss and file a lawsuit and get paid.
That's a kind of crap cops deal with on a daily basis. Try and do the right thing and no matter what someone is always looking for any kind of angle to twist it to bash them or to try and make a fuss of nothing to get paid.
I once had someone threaten to sue the department because I let a child we watching until DSS arrived watch TV and the kid supposedly wasn't allowed to watch the program's he did.
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)What I thought. They will get themselves an attorney in hope a getting a big fat check.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)They see any accusation against police and jump right behind it no matter how stupid and baseless it is or how obvious it is that it is just an attempt to cash in.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)this photo is the question here. If meant to be offensive in any cultural manner, given the days and times that have increased, not without reason mind you, sensitivity to all matters racial and cultural, then the police officers are just feeding into a fever that is raging in the body of the american politic.
If not, then a moment of compassion for a helpless human being can easily be misconstrued as something other than just human compassion for another helpless human being. In other less sensitive times this may have been seen as just a moment of compassion and an attempt by these officers to show the world that their compassion was intact. But these times make many, not without reason(s), question all motive since the color of human beings was on display. The situation is sad for the parents who for whatever reason had enough pain to forget their responsibility to their children and do what they did, OD. Sad for that baby and siblings who will join many others across racial and cultural lines facing exactly the same situation and for the same reason(s) life as a foster child somewhere if the extended family does not pick up the pieces.
At least the police officer, I feel, had 6 hours of real compassion until things got sorted out. I am willing to see and feel that much. No sanction necessary toward them, just my opinion.
Not trying to contradict anyone with strong feelings, pro or con, about this situation. I am really trying to garner some positive humanity from the situation. Those children and their upcoming life of doubt, fear and pain is what concerns me. Not a moment of, I feel, compassion for a helpless human being
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)The hypocrisy in this is so blatant it's impossible to not mention.
phylny
(8,386 posts)with the baby's face blurred. The child, no matter how young, has a right to privacy. A child should not be a prop.
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)Is much greater and more harmful than the agenda of the person caring for children in peril.
The story isn't that the cop took care of some kids- it's that someone has a problem with it.
Hekate
(90,793 posts)Christ on a trailer hitch, people. People in the prime of their lives are dying out there, right in front of their babies and little kids.
A police officer stays with the most recent orphans for 6 hours until a place can be found for them and this is all you (and I mean many in this thread, BB, not just you) compassionate liberals have to say?
Gods help us.
Matrosov
(1,098 posts)Why post the picture? Because 'oh, look at this nice white police officer comforting some black baby and not being a racist prick'
Hekate
(90,793 posts)Hero of yours?
Aleksandr Matrosov Russiapedia Military Prominent Russians
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tymorial
(3,433 posts)and less to do with the actual photo. The language of many of the responses is evidence enough.
I generally dislike and have had a problem with law enforcement long before the recent spotlight on abuse and murder of young black men.. That being said, I find the response to this photo to be opportunistic.