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boston bean

(36,223 posts)
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 06:12 PM Sep 2016

Police department faces backlash over photo of officer comforting baby

The Birmingham Police Department is facing backlash over a picture that went viral on social media.

The picture shows Birmingham police Officer Michelle Burton holding a baby whose parents had just overdosed. The father died and the mother is still in the hospital.

Burton ended up staying with the baby and her three siblings for more than six hours following the incident.

Burton's husband posted the picture on social media last week, praising his wife.

However, family members of the baby shown in the picture were not happy.


http://www.wcvb.com/news/police-department-faces-backlash-over-photo-of-officer-comforting-baby/41611062?utm_source=Social&utm_medium=FBPAGE&utm_campaign=WCVB%20Channel%205%20Boston%20-%20wcvb5&Content%20Type=Story

I agree, do not use children of persons who have overdosed to prove points or make yourself look good or someone else bad on social media. Jesus H. Christ.
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Police department faces backlash over photo of officer comforting baby (Original Post) boston bean Sep 2016 OP
As it should. Brickbat Sep 2016 #1
JHC, exploited? That baby looks content with the shoulder he/she is sleeping on. Rex Sep 2016 #2
It's the posting of the picture on social media, Hortensis Sep 2016 #6
Well the genie is way out of the bottle on that one. Rex Sep 2016 #10
Police do a lot of bad things, but that ain't one of them. Hoyt Sep 2016 #3
Agree! mountain grammy Sep 2016 #4
A police officer husband taking a photo and posting the picture and information on his own personal boston bean Sep 2016 #5
Agree. Officer snuggling baby in police care 100% right. Hortensis Sep 2016 #9
posting pictures of officers with children in their official capacity and posting to their boston bean Sep 2016 #11
I know. The cop spent over six hours with the baby. cwydro Sep 2016 #7
They aren't upset the child was cared for. They are upset with the child being used in this fashion boston bean Sep 2016 #8
where was the aunt when her sister was ODing on drugs? Mosby Sep 2016 #25
Umm maybe at her own house. Or at dinner. Or at a movie. Or sleeping. boston bean Sep 2016 #26
Where do you think she should have been? Mariana Sep 2016 #49
Tough call. I mean, we have argued- and won- the right to film police in their duties Warren DeMontague Sep 2016 #12
not children. That is different. boston bean Sep 2016 #13
I understand the argument you are making. Warren DeMontague Sep 2016 #23
Well, in 20 years, let's remember to ask the girl what she thinks. Hoyt Sep 2016 #14
Not in the least relevant or a defense to this. boston bean Sep 2016 #15
I'm sorry, I don't see the photo a problem, nor a reason for outrage. Hoyt Sep 2016 #17
What about this one? Rex Sep 2016 #20
What an asshole!sarc... Look I hate the dickhead/killer cops but it's a 50/50 mix. nt JanMichael Sep 2016 #28
That poor baby's got bigger problems than being in a photo. Quantess Sep 2016 #16
It is still wrong. boston bean Sep 2016 #18
Thank you wheniwasincongress Sep 2016 #45
Not Understand? ProfessorGAC Sep 2016 #87
so, we want them filmed only when they're doing something wrong Skittles Sep 2016 #52
Exactly. And so will the kids of the next overdose. I think they ought to Hoyt Sep 2016 #19
It's wonderful what the officer did to help those poor kids. Chemisse Sep 2016 #21
Not gonna get all bent outta shape about this one. NBachers Sep 2016 #22
if Michelle Burton was America's worst police officer Angel Martin Sep 2016 #24
Yes. nt. JanMichael Sep 2016 #27
Police officer did nothing wrong. Laffy Kat Sep 2016 #29
You are absolutely correct. He is a hero; however, his superiors "exploted" the image... Jeffersons Ghost Sep 2016 #30
HIPPA governs medical records and billing in the healthcare industry. Massacure Sep 2016 #44
HIPPA has nothing to do with this tymorial Sep 2016 #76
HIPAA not HIPPA (everyone does that). Laffy Kat Sep 2016 #78
Fucking Cop gopiscrap Sep 2016 #31
Absolutely. She should be suspended at a bare minimum philosslayer Sep 2016 #35
So she should have left GulfCoast66 Sep 2016 #46
This is not the car D situation or photo. It is a different case, different cop. nt tblue37 Sep 2016 #48
WE GET IT, YOU HATE COPS Skittles Sep 2016 #51
I can't imagine going thru life that angry ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2016 #55
LOL Skittles Sep 2016 #56
Huh? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2016 #57
sorry, I thought you were replying to me Skittles Sep 2016 #67
There's a lot of that in this thread Hekate Sep 2016 #84
they make me sick Skittles Sep 2016 #85
It would be wrong if the child was much older TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2016 #32
Babies have the right to privacy, too. nt Laffy Kat Sep 2016 #33
It's a picture. TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2016 #34
It is more than just a picture. It is a complete boston bean Sep 2016 #36
Oh, for fuck's sake! TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2016 #37
She knew exactly what her husband was doing philosslayer Sep 2016 #38
Wow. You know that how? TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2016 #39
What's the exploitation? N/t TCJ70 Sep 2016 #40
The babies family believes she was exploited philosslayer Sep 2016 #41
Not only that. According to the article family members learned of the death from that personal boston bean Sep 2016 #42
Well... GulfCoast66 Sep 2016 #79
I get that...but you said... TCJ70 Sep 2016 #43
Sympathy for the police philosslayer Sep 2016 #58
Can't have sympathy for the police, can we? MicaelS Sep 2016 #69
Not when they're just doing their jobs. philosslayer Sep 2016 #71
This is what her husband wrote on Facebook: TCJ70 Sep 2016 #73
You are getting off meme GulfCoast66 Sep 2016 #80
If the parents are indicators... TipTok Sep 2016 #54
I can believe I am from the planet Mars FrodosPet Sep 2016 #62
How would you like it... philosslayer Sep 2016 #63
Is it because I was doing something stupid and dangerous? FrodosPet Sep 2016 #65
Maybe there is some inappropriate action by posting, but this is a minor flap. Eleanors38 Sep 2016 #68
A boo-boo but nothing worthy of punishment. geek tragedy Sep 2016 #47
That's where I am at. Her boss should say "Don't do it again" and that should be the end of it. stevenleser Sep 2016 #81
I wouldn't post a picture of someone else's kid on FB without parental permission aikoaiko Sep 2016 #50
so The babies family believes she was exploited... bagelsforbreakfast Sep 2016 #53
The baby looks fine but why was an officer baby sitting for 6 hours? Does Birmingham Police have Sunlei Sep 2016 #59
Let's be honest- this is just the remaining family hoping for a payout Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #60
No shit, that is exactly.. MicaelS Sep 2016 #70
And so many here jump right on the bandwagon like fools Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #86
the intent and motive of posting heaven05 Sep 2016 #61
Posting pix of officers doing bad=good. Posting pix of officers doing good=bad. KittyWampus Sep 2016 #64
The picture could have been posted just the same phylny Sep 2016 #82
The agenda of people who have a problem with this Dreamer Tatum Sep 2016 #66
No good deed goes unpunished, eh? Hekate Sep 2016 #72
Police propaganda Matrosov Sep 2016 #74
Looked up your name on impulse. Hekate Sep 2016 #83
This message was self-deleted by its author milestogo Sep 2016 #75
I believe the much of outrage here as far more to do with general loathing for police tymorial Sep 2016 #77
I'm not all that motivated about it Renew Deal Sep 2016 #88
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
2. JHC, exploited? That baby looks content with the shoulder he/she is sleeping on.
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 06:16 PM
Sep 2016

I am sorry for the family, but I don't see any such comparison to the picture of the two parents ODing in their car. Not even close.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. It's the posting of the picture on social media,
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 06:31 PM
Sep 2016

not the comforting shoulder. Private use of the child's photo a big no-no. The husband should not have had access to the photo either.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
10. Well the genie is way out of the bottle on that one.
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 06:33 PM
Sep 2016

A little too late, but yeah I guess so.

boston bean

(36,223 posts)
5. A police officer husband taking a photo and posting the picture and information on his own personal
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 06:31 PM
Sep 2016

social media accounts was wrong!

And his wife's (agreement) in him doing so, makes her very wrong as well.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. Agree. Officer snuggling baby in police care 100% right.
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 06:32 PM
Sep 2016

Private display of photos of the baby 100% wrong.

boston bean

(36,223 posts)
11. posting pictures of officers with children in their official capacity and posting to their
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 06:34 PM
Sep 2016

private social media accounts is 100% wrong.

Jesus. I agree with you. Thanks!

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
7. I know. The cop spent over six hours with the baby.
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 06:31 PM
Sep 2016

But the family is upset with her instead of the neglectful parents.

No words.

boston bean

(36,223 posts)
8. They aren't upset the child was cared for. They are upset with the child being used in this fashion
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 06:32 PM
Sep 2016

on a police officers own personal social media.

Mariana

(14,860 posts)
49. Where do you think she should have been?
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 01:00 AM
Sep 2016

You know, even when a family member knows perfectly well that the parent(s) shouldn't have the children, they can't just forcibly take them. Kidnapping is illegal.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
12. Tough call. I mean, we have argued- and won- the right to film police in their duties
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 06:37 PM
Sep 2016

and share that on social media as well.

Honestly, I'd be happy if the SWAT team that threw the flash grenade into baby bou-bou's crib faced sanctions.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/infant-responsible-grenade-thrown-face/

The sad thing is, they won't and this officer probably will.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
20. What about this one?
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 06:49 PM
Sep 2016


I agree, imo there is a slippery slope to outrage when it comes to pics.

wheniwasincongress

(1,307 posts)
45. Thank you
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 12:24 AM
Sep 2016

I don't know why this is so hard for people to understand... Where the rest of the baby's family was is complely irrelevant to the police taking pictures of kids and posting them online without the family's permission...

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
19. Exactly. And so will the kids of the next overdose. I think they ought to
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 06:47 PM
Sep 2016

put that photo on billboards, TV, etc., with the names of drug treatment resources.

Chemisse

(30,817 posts)
21. It's wonderful what the officer did to help those poor kids.
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 07:15 PM
Sep 2016

But posting the picture on social media is wrong. The baby may only be 2 months old, but she has the right to privacy.

It's not 'hang-them-by-their-toenails' wrong, but it is wrong.

Laffy Kat

(16,386 posts)
29. Police officer did nothing wrong.
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 09:53 PM
Sep 2016

Police officer's husband used very poor judgement. I'm sure this violates HIPAA in some way. This was certainly a violation of that family's privacy.

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
30. You are absolutely correct. He is a hero; however, his superiors "exploted" the image...
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 10:11 PM
Sep 2016

They released the photograph and story to media, without proper, responsible consent from close family members. [chineze satellite ode by their online agents = grade "F" ]

Massacure

(7,526 posts)
44. HIPPA governs medical records and billing in the healthcare industry.
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 12:19 AM
Sep 2016

It wouldn't surprise me if there is a departmental policy or law of some time that prohibits identifying juvenile victims, but I doubt it is HIPAA.

Laffy Kat

(16,386 posts)
78. HIPAA not HIPPA (everyone does that).
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 06:54 PM
Sep 2016

And you are probably right but I'm not sure. HIPAA regulations extend to entities that interact with healthcare facilities, such as contractors and other agencies.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
46. So she should have left
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 12:30 AM
Sep 2016

The poor baby in the car until relatives came? Because God forbid she comfort the poor thing and people think we'll of a police officer. What if a news reporter had taken the photo? What's the difference. But it is what happened. It is news.

Too bad the parents were not so concerned.

And no, I have little sympathy for parents who OD with their infant in the car.

Hekate

(90,793 posts)
84. There's a lot of that in this thread
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 08:51 PM
Sep 2016

I can't believe the bile being spewed by "compassionate" liberals.

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
32. It would be wrong if the child was much older
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 10:18 PM
Sep 2016

but this won't even be recognizable in a few months. Babies change that fast! It's not like the baby's privacy was violated.

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
34. It's a picture.
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 10:23 PM
Sep 2016

It's not like he published medical records, for goodness' sake!

Again, if the child was older and in school this would be very wrong, imo.

However, this is simply a little anonymous baby in that picture, and the baby will not be recognized in a couple of months. Anyone who's been around babies know that they change that fast.

It's much ado about nothing, imo. That family has a lot of reasons to be upset, but that shouldn't be one of them unless they have ulterior motives.

boston bean

(36,223 posts)
36. It is more than just a picture. It is a complete
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 10:37 PM
Sep 2016

Invasion of privacy for the child and family. And in no way should cops Be posting pictures of victims on their own personal social media. And make no mistake. This baby is a victim. Not only of its parents actions but now the poor decisions of police in an effort to what?? Make themselves look good. Shame the family? It certainly was not posted in an effort to help the baby. Cops are paid to do these jobs. Did she do it well? I assume she did, until she dcided to use that child to her own benefit.

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
37. Oh, for fuck's sake!
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 10:53 PM
Sep 2016

Her husband posted the picture on his Facebook page. "She" didn't post the photo.

Did he list the baby's name, parents' name, and address?

I must be missing something here.

The family members are the ones keeping this baby in the news!

 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
38. She knew exactly what her husband was doing
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 10:59 PM
Sep 2016

This was a staged event meant to exploit this child for the cops own benefit

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
39. Wow. You know that how?
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 11:00 PM
Sep 2016

Oh, wait.

It's obvious she meant to exploit a little black baby. Wicked, wicked white woman cop!

/sarcasm

boston bean

(36,223 posts)
42. Not only that. According to the article family members learned of the death from that personal
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 11:09 PM
Sep 2016

Facebook page.

I think using children to shame parents or punish parents is disgusting. I also think it is disgusting for one, especially in public service, to use children in this fashion.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
79. Well...
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 08:01 PM
Sep 2016

Parents that OD in the car with their infant probably deserve a dose of shaming. And it sounds like they took care of the punishing themselves.

Attacking the cops for caring for an almost orphaned infant is not really a viable strategy for building support for law enforcement reform.

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
43. I get that...but you said...
Sat Sep 10, 2016, 11:13 PM
Sep 2016

...that this was a staged event to exploit the child for the cops benefit. How are they benefitting? You seem to know.

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
73. This is what her husband wrote on Facebook:
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 05:29 PM
Sep 2016

"Last night, my wife Michelle Burton told me she would be late getting off work because of call she was on where the parents of 4 small children had both overdosed,” Brian Burton wrote in his post. “She spent the rest of the night taking care of these babies. She got home at 4 this morning. I’ve never seen her more beautiful than in this picture. What an incredible woman."

No personal info about the kids, it was on his personal Facebook as far as I can tell. No mention of police. Just a post in support of his wife. I found that in this WaPo article:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/inspired-life/wp/2016/09/03/touching-photo-shows-police-officer-comforting-baby-whose-parents-overdosed/

There is no exploitation here. At all.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
80. You are getting off meme
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 08:04 PM
Sep 2016

Last edited Sun Sep 11, 2016, 09:59 PM - Edit history (1)

She is a cop. The are all fucking evil. Stop posting stuff that makes it seem like they may actually care. Haven't you heard the latest rules...if you want to be considered a 'progressive' you must hate the cops.
 

TipTok

(2,474 posts)
54. If the parents are indicators...
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 03:21 AM
Sep 2016

... that family probably isn't the best at assessment and decision making.

 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
63. How would you like it...
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 10:00 AM
Sep 2016

If one of YOUR childrens' picture was plastered all over the Internet by the police without your permission ?

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
65. Is it because I was doing something stupid and dangerous?
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 10:07 AM
Sep 2016

Is it because I consider getting high to escape my problems more important than the safety and well being of that child?

If that was the case, I would blame myself for creating the situation to begin with. Then again, I feel honor and responsibility and self control are universal obligations.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
68. Maybe there is some inappropriate action by posting, but this is a minor flap.
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 03:48 PM
Sep 2016

The officer did her job, and did it well. The little guy needed someone, and the woman knew it. If someone wants to take this to court, better not have me on the jury.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
47. A boo-boo but nothing worthy of punishment.
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 12:53 AM
Sep 2016
"This child has a right and it's been violated. This police officer exploited this child," Adalane said. "No one gave them permission to take that picture."

Adalane also added that some family members first learned about the baby's parents overdosing by seeing the picture on social media.




The parents were unavailable to give permission as they had drugged themselves into a lethal stupor.
 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
81. That's where I am at. Her boss should say "Don't do it again" and that should be the end of it.
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 08:12 PM
Sep 2016

This isn't outrage worthy.

aikoaiko

(34,183 posts)
50. I wouldn't post a picture of someone else's kid on FB without parental permission
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 01:14 AM
Sep 2016

But that picture is the least of that child's problems
 

bagelsforbreakfast

(1,427 posts)
53. so The babies family believes she was exploited...
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 03:16 AM
Sep 2016

They are simply ashamed of (and, on behalf of) themselves, because it might draw attention and reflect on them. {The baby will sleep through this}.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
59. The baby looks fine but why was an officer baby sitting for 6 hours? Does Birmingham Police have
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 08:50 AM
Sep 2016

CPS or contact a family member to watch the children?

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
60. Let's be honest- this is just the remaining family hoping for a payout
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 09:24 AM
Sep 2016

Of all the huge problems that child and the family face from what is happening, a picture that didn't include the name or ID the baby or family shouldn't be anywhere on their list of priorities to be focused on.

But it is.

Because they see it as a chance to try and make a fuss and file a lawsuit and get paid.

That's a kind of crap cops deal with on a daily basis. Try and do the right thing and no matter what someone is always looking for any kind of angle to twist it to bash them or to try and make a fuss of nothing to get paid.

I once had someone threaten to sue the department because I let a child we watching until DSS arrived watch TV and the kid supposedly wasn't allowed to watch the program's he did.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
70. No shit, that is exactly..
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 04:00 PM
Sep 2016

What I thought. They will get themselves an attorney in hope a getting a big fat check.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
86. And so many here jump right on the bandwagon like fools
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 06:38 AM
Sep 2016

They see any accusation against police and jump right behind it no matter how stupid and baseless it is or how obvious it is that it is just an attempt to cash in.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
61. the intent and motive of posting
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 09:41 AM
Sep 2016

this photo is the question here. If meant to be offensive in any cultural manner, given the days and times that have increased, not without reason mind you, sensitivity to all matters racial and cultural, then the police officers are just feeding into a fever that is raging in the body of the american politic.

If not, then a moment of compassion for a helpless human being can easily be misconstrued as something other than just human compassion for another helpless human being. In other less sensitive times this may have been seen as just a moment of compassion and an attempt by these officers to show the world that their compassion was intact. But these times make many, not without reason(s), question all motive since the color of human beings was on display. The situation is sad for the parents who for whatever reason had enough pain to forget their responsibility to their children and do what they did, OD. Sad for that baby and siblings who will join many others across racial and cultural lines facing exactly the same situation and for the same reason(s) life as a foster child somewhere if the extended family does not pick up the pieces.

At least the police officer, I feel, had 6 hours of real compassion until things got sorted out. I am willing to see and feel that much. No sanction necessary toward them, just my opinion.

Not trying to contradict anyone with strong feelings, pro or con, about this situation. I am really trying to garner some positive humanity from the situation. Those children and their upcoming life of doubt, fear and pain is what concerns me. Not a moment of, I feel, compassion for a helpless human being

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
64. Posting pix of officers doing bad=good. Posting pix of officers doing good=bad.
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 10:06 AM
Sep 2016

The hypocrisy in this is so blatant it's impossible to not mention.

phylny

(8,386 posts)
82. The picture could have been posted just the same
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 08:18 PM
Sep 2016

with the baby's face blurred. The child, no matter how young, has a right to privacy. A child should not be a prop.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
66. The agenda of people who have a problem with this
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 10:21 AM
Sep 2016

Is much greater and more harmful than the agenda of the person caring for children in peril.

The story isn't that the cop took care of some kids- it's that someone has a problem with it.

Hekate

(90,793 posts)
72. No good deed goes unpunished, eh?
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 05:15 PM
Sep 2016

Christ on a trailer hitch, people. People in the prime of their lives are dying out there, right in front of their babies and little kids.

A police officer stays with the most recent orphans for 6 hours until a place can be found for them and this is all you (and I mean many in this thread, BB, not just you) compassionate liberals have to say?

Gods help us.

 

Matrosov

(1,098 posts)
74. Police propaganda
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 06:17 PM
Sep 2016

Why post the picture? Because 'oh, look at this nice white police officer comforting some black baby and not being a racist prick'

Hekate

(90,793 posts)
83. Looked up your name on impulse.
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 08:49 PM
Sep 2016

Hero of yours?

Aleksandr Matrosov – Russiapedia Military Prominent Russians
russiapedia.rt.com › RT projects › Russiapedia › Prominent Russians › Military
Aleksandr Matrosov was a Soviet soldier who died heroically during World War II. ... On 19 June 1943 Matrosov received the award of “the Hero of the Soviet Union” posthumously. .

http://russiapedia.rt.com/prominent-russians/military/aleksandr-matrosov/

Response to boston bean (Original post)

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
77. I believe the much of outrage here as far more to do with general loathing for police
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 06:44 PM
Sep 2016

and less to do with the actual photo. The language of many of the responses is evidence enough.

I generally dislike and have had a problem with law enforcement long before the recent spotlight on abuse and murder of young black men.. That being said, I find the response to this photo to be opportunistic.

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