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struggle4progress

(118,320 posts)
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 08:05 PM Sep 2016

Trump Beats Clinton Among Least-Educated Whites

John McCormick
September 8, 2016 — 5:45 AM EDT

Donald Trump is decisively winning white voters who don’t have more than a high-school education, but his stubborn unpopularity with minorities has given Hillary Clinton a narrow overall lead with America’s least-educated voters.

Those findings from the latest Purple Slice online poll for Bloomberg Politics highlight two of the biggest demographic fault lines in this year’s presidential race: educational attainment and race.

In a two-way contest, Trump is backed by 55 percent of whites with no more than a high-school degree, compared to 33 percent for Clinton.

Yet among all likely voters who haven’t attended college — a group that accounted for 24 percent of the 2012 electorate — Clinton leads Trump 47 percent to 42 percent in a two-way contest. She’s buoyed by support from 83 percent of non-white, no-college voters to Trump’s 10 percent ...


http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-09-08/trump-beats-clinton-least-educated-whites

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Trump Beats Clinton Among Least-Educated Whites (Original Post) struggle4progress Sep 2016 OP
New 50-state polls show Trump ahead in Kansas but Clinton winning overall struggle4progress Sep 2016 #1
Kansas hasn't suffered enough yet. Old and In the Way Sep 2016 #6
Poll shows Trump with razor thin lead over Clinton in Ohio struggle4progress Sep 2016 #2
Still can't believe the large percentage of whites trump leads with almost everywhere Person 2713 Sep 2016 #7
Clinton, Trump Tied In Critical Swing State Of Florida struggle4progress Sep 2016 #3
The maggot wins the moron vote MFM008 Sep 2016 #4
So if you don't have a college education you are are a moron? former9thward Sep 2016 #12
I wonder who's campaign you're part of ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2016 #15
Way to evade the question... former9thward Sep 2016 #19
Oh, you'd know all about evading.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2016 #21
Clinton Leads in N.C., Pa., Trump Up in Ohio, Tie in Fla.: Poll struggle4progress Sep 2016 #5
RUMP is making america WHITE again. pansypoo53219 Sep 2016 #8
Uneducated whites supporting a man who wears a ball cap with a suit. Big suprise. RB TexLa Sep 2016 #9
If you don't have a college education you are "uneducated"? former9thward Sep 2016 #14
lol,college makes you more informed? Not necessiarly. Go Vols Sep 2016 #16
More often, you are undereducated and less exposed to the world at large NickB79 Sep 2016 #20
They are afraid of competing with educated people- they hate education bettyellen Sep 2016 #10
Some of them will never compete with educated people... Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2016 #13
I was a straight A student till algebra, lol. Now I actually use it but.... bettyellen Sep 2016 #18
Decent paying manufacturing jobs have been lost in Ohio over the years... Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2016 #11
That's a no brainer! Cha Sep 2016 #17

struggle4progress

(118,320 posts)
1. New 50-state polls show Trump ahead in Kansas but Clinton winning overall
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 08:08 PM
Sep 2016

Posted by Peter Hancock
September 8, 2016 at 3:30 p.m.

Two recent 50-state polls show Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump with a big lead in Kansas but Democrat Hillary Clinton with a significant lead in electoral votes nationwide ...

The polls were conducted in August by the Washington Post and Morning Consult. Results of each were released this week.

The Washington Post poll said if the election were held today in Kansas, Trump would beat Clinton 49-37 percent, with 14 percent undecided.

But Clinton showed up well ahead of Trump in the battle for electoral votes, 244-126, with 168 electoral votes hanging in tossup states. It takes 270 electoral votes to win ...


http://www2.ljworld.com/weblogs/capitol-report/2016/sep/8/new-50-state-polls-show-trump-ahead-in-k/

struggle4progress

(118,320 posts)
2. Poll shows Trump with razor thin lead over Clinton in Ohio
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 08:12 PM
Sep 2016
... Ohio women back Clinton 52 - 39 percent, while men back Trump 53 - 38 percent. White voters back Trump 53 - 38 percent, as non-white voters go to Clinton 81 - 11 percent ...

... in Pennsylvania ... Women back Clinton 54 - 39 percent, down from 59 - 36 percent last month. Men back Trump 48 - 41 percent, compared to 49 - 44 percent last month. Trump is up 50 - 42 percent among white voters, while Clinton leads 75 - 15 percent among non-white voters ...

Florida women back Clinton 56 - 36 percent, while men back Trump 58 - 36 percent ... White voters back Trump 59 - 36 percent, as non-white voters go to Clinton 67 - 25 percent ...

North Carolina is a garden of gender harmony as men go 46 percent for Clinton and 44 percent for Trump, with women backing Clinton 49 - 42 percent. The Republican leads 60 - 30 percent among white voters, while non-white voters go Democratic 81 - 10 percent ...


http://www.wfmj.com/story/33051705/poll-shows-trump-with-razor-thin-lead-over-clinton-in-ohio

struggle4progress

(118,320 posts)
3. Clinton, Trump Tied In Critical Swing State Of Florida
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 08:13 PM
Sep 2016

September 8, 2016 5:30 PM
By Giovanna Maselli

... A Quinnipiac University poll finds Clinton and Trump tied with 47% each in the Sunshine State.

With a third-party candidate in the Florida race, Clinton and Trump also tied at 43% while Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson came in at 8 percent.

Other critical swing states in which they are close include North Carolina, Ohio and Pennsylvania, according to the poll ...


http://miami.cbslocal.com/2016/09/08/poll-clinton-trump-tied-in-critical-swing-state-of-florida/

former9thward

(32,064 posts)
12. So if you don't have a college education you are are a moron?
Fri Sep 9, 2016, 12:55 AM
Sep 2016

Thankfully you are are a keyboard warrior and not a part of anyone's campaign.

struggle4progress

(118,320 posts)
5. Clinton Leads in N.C., Pa., Trump Up in Ohio, Tie in Fla.: Poll
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 08:16 PM
Sep 2016

3:08 PM

... N.C.: Clinton 42%, Trump 38%, Libertarian Gary Johnson 15%; Green Party’s Jill Stein not on ballot in state

Pa.: Clinton 44%, Trump 39%, Johnson 9%, Stein 3%

Ohio: Trump 41%, Clinton 37%, Johnson 14%, Stein 4%

Fla.: Clinton 43%, Trump 43%, Johnson 8%, Stein 2% ...


http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/trackers/2016-09-08/clinton-leads-in-n-c-pa-trump-up-in-ohio-tie-in-fla-poll

Go Vols

(5,902 posts)
16. lol,college makes you more informed? Not necessiarly.
Fri Sep 9, 2016, 01:21 AM
Sep 2016

This was the easiest I thought,there are many more.

:/

NickB79

(19,257 posts)
20. More often, you are undereducated and less exposed to the world at large
Fri Sep 9, 2016, 03:28 PM
Sep 2016

I can speak from personal experience. I was considered a very intelligent kid in my tiny rural town ever since I was young. I took AP classes and spent hours every day devouring books. The librarian knew me like one of her own kids. It was just something that came naturally to me.

However, I was also so insulated in my all-white, all-conservative, sometimes openly racist community that I would not call myself educated in anything but a technical manner at that time. Sure, I could break down a complex calculus equation or tell you the history of Prussia, but I had no idea what it was like to have non-white friends or how their lives compared to mine. I got to grow up listening to my family bitch around the table at Christmas about "welfare queens driving Cadillacs and n****rs waiting to kill all the white people". I watched my uncle have a local artist paint an 8-FOOT TALL image of a fetus on his barn facing the main highway to show how pro-life he was. This same uncle slept with a loaded .44 mag under his bed because he was convinced a race war was imminent. I saw our town of 400 people boycott the local diner when a Mexican family bought it, until the family left town. I got to hear people in town openly bitch about how our community was going to hell because a family had the audacity to adopt a 5 yr old African American boy and enroll him in our all-white school. And bear in mind, this was all in the 1980's and 1990's! This wasn't 50 years ago. It was also Michelle Bachman territory, if that tells you anything.

Only by leaving that insular world and going to college was I able to truly become educated, not just in the classroom but also outside of it. My freshman year roommate was Chinese-American. He introduced me to real Chinese food, not chow mein from a can, and we're still close friends to this day. I got to meet black people who weren't all gang members like my family thought they'd be. I got to meet gay people, and they didn't turn me gay like my family said they would! I got to know a woman who needed an abortion to save her life from an ectopic pregnancy.

If I'd have never gone to college, I'm certain I'd still be working the family farm today, likely just as conservative as the rest of my family, with a great big Trump sign at the end of the driveway and a Trump bumper sticker on my truck. I'd still be as intelligent today as I was 20 years ago, but would I be considered educated if I still believed all the shit my family told me?

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
10. They are afraid of competing with educated people- they hate education
Fri Sep 9, 2016, 12:19 AM
Sep 2016

Minorities, women and don't realize the world is leaving their bigoted bullshit behind.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,856 posts)
13. Some of them will never compete with educated people...
Fri Sep 9, 2016, 12:57 AM
Sep 2016

... because they're not well-wired to get decent educations.

That sounds harsh, but there's some people in the world who are naturally "slow" academically. That doesn't mean they're unskilled in all ways, however. I've worked alongside talented mechanics who seemed totally incapable of understanding very basic algebra, for example.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
18. I was a straight A student till algebra, lol. Now I actually use it but....
Fri Sep 9, 2016, 01:59 AM
Sep 2016

I think a lot of it has to do with the demise of good paying blue collar jobs. You know, the ones where they'd never hire women or people of color if they could help it.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,856 posts)
11. Decent paying manufacturing jobs have been lost in Ohio over the years...
Fri Sep 9, 2016, 12:44 AM
Sep 2016

... so I'm sure that plays a role among the dummies who fall for the simple mantra that we need to remove "the establishment politicians." There's been many men who lost jobs in those sectors.

I'm sure that many of them are sexist or bigoted too, but that's not the whole story.

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