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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNow I'm supposed to boycott WHAT??!!??
I swear, if I went along with all the stupid boycotts I keep reading about, I'd have to go shopping with a 50-page list of "forbidden" items.
Latest? Johnsonville sausages.
I love 'em!
Like hell I'm going to "boycott" them.
And you know what? These spurious "boycotts" never hurt any of these companies, they only hurt the workers.
bluedigger
(17,087 posts)That's pretty subjective, isn't it?
WingDinger
(3,690 posts)Archae
(46,359 posts)I use those big Scott rolls.
They're about a buck each, and they last and last.
How do we know?
How *CAN* we know?
ABC news just had today a segment on "pure" groceries like lemon juice, that's 90% water.
Warpy
(111,388 posts)I use it too. It means I don't have to shop for it that often.
Besides, that soft, squishy stuff clogs a low flow desert toilet.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)You turn the handle and knock the...errr...detrius off, and you'll only need a few squares to pat that business dry!
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YellowRubberDuckie
(19,736 posts)...My husband will not allow us to buy any of their products. And I can't blame him. He's like my dad when it comes to union labor. If you purposely bring someone in to wipe out labor like Scott and Tyson have, you can forget getting a penny from my family.
Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)Johnsonville has been on the boycott list since Feb, 2011. So, to each his (or her ) own. buy 'em and support Scott Walker. Totally your choice.
Greybnk48
(10,178 posts)It seems longer than a year and a half, but that's probably right. And no Koch products, which isn't easy BTW.
Incitatus
(5,317 posts)I do make an effort to buy from the bad ones as little as possible.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)Or perhaps the better question how is your life diminished by not eating them?
And if consuming Johnsonville sausages is more important than supporting the people that are hurt by them, how can anyone count on your support for anything? Just how deep is your commitment to making America better when something this small is too much?
Do you know for how many years people didn't eat grapes before Dolores Huerta and Cesar Chavez eventually won? Were those people just stupid for denying themselves the yummy goodness of all those grapes just so "some Mexicans" could be paid the minimum wage and not have to worry quite so much about dieing for California's Ag Giants, especially because "These spurious "boycotts" never hurt any of these companies"?
Archae
(46,359 posts)It seems that just about every week something new appears on the boycott lists.
Ok, so I stop buying Johnsonville, and buy...Usingers instead.
Some group decides Usingers is cruel to animals, so now THEY are to be boycotted.
Lather, rinse, repeat.
It's outrage fatigue.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)several groups, and then you are asked to not buy $tarbucks, and this is followed Krispy Kreme and Hillshire Farms, would your life be diminished so much that you'd rather see the problems remain?
What if you were asked to stop buying everything Kraft Foods makes? Is that too much to ask to help other people make things a little better?
veganlush
(2,049 posts)what;s so hard to understand about that? Buying factory farmed protects supports animal cruelty. It's not a matter of opinion, it's simple fact. There are so many foods we can eat without promoting torture. Subjecting an animal to that just because people can't control their cravings-it's so wrong. It doesn't have to be like this. boycott cruelty
freshwest
(53,661 posts)About buying them, an illogical reaction to my disgust at the abuse in the fields.
And my anger that Nixon shipped them and iceberg lettuce to the troops to try to break the union.
Now I don't even know the UFW is doing much anymore, but I think we did make an impact. Or felt we did. IDK.
I didn't know about the Johnsonville issue. How long has it been going on?
But I can't say I'm doing the right thing, as I don't eat it anyway. it'd be like a person who didn't smoke saying, 'I'm going to give up smoking for Lent.' No sacrifice for me.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)It took years and years but we did win, and that's what irks the hell out of me about this. People can't seem to sustain a commitment for week or even a day, and worse don't really care anyway. The grape (and I swear it expanded to lettuce as well) boycott worked because people were committed to making it work and would not give up.
The Stayers, brother & sister owners of Johnsonville, are big Walker supporters and have donated large sums of money that their workers made for them to his campaign and to work against those same workers. I don't eat much meat and never commercial sausages just because I have literally seen sausage being made and the good stuff is disgusting enough. So like you, my support is more spiritual than practical.
But I will and do support every/any boycott for labor because it is the right thing to do and it's not like I really need it anyway. I just don't understand how people that claim to care can be so callous. It's such a small thing. Remember the "Not one damn dime" boycott? Couldn't even get one day out of Americans. The cynical part of me says we deserve every bit of what we're going to get.
Homer12
(1,866 posts)n/a
BiggJawn
(23,051 posts)Archae
(46,359 posts)But a lot of them are awful!
Either over-spiced, or stuffed with fillers.
Or they are WAYYYYY too expensive.
MADem
(135,425 posts)lame54
(35,331 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)I like their stuff--they have a soy chorizo that's really tasty that is a particular favorite.
lame54
(35,331 posts)obamanut2012
(26,161 posts)Their meat sausages are fantastic, and cheap (even though I don't eat them any more).
lame54
(35,331 posts)BiggJawn
(23,051 posts)The nearest TJ is 75 miles away. But if I was near there, I wouldn't go there for bratwurst, I'd go to the near south-side to Claus'. Same family since 1913. How's THAT for local?
Unfortunately, they're 75 miles away.
MADem
(135,425 posts)That way, if you're ever near the place, you can slide in there and do some impulse shopping!
lame54
(35,331 posts)dembotoz
(16,864 posts)i mention it because it is not that far from you
i used to take my family there often
now i haven't for a number of years
shop at your friends
will it hurt the stand that i don't go there
will it hurt walmart that i choose not to go there
perhaps, perhaps not
but i sleep better
Archae
(46,359 posts)I never go to Culvers, too expensive.
Across the street from me is a good frozen custard place, locally owned called "Randalls."
dembotoz
(16,864 posts)i knew the owner of the grafton culvers and he seems to be an ok guy
i used to take my family to culvers alot
they used to take checks
stopped taking checks--pretty much stopped going
been to culvers a couple times past year or so--sticker shock
don't want to pay applebees prices for a fancy mc donalds.....
Worried senior
(1,328 posts)I also try to go to stores or businesses that care more about their employees or the people they are serving.
Fla_Democrat
(2,547 posts)at one point or another. Just play it safe, and don't buy anything.
I use it all the time.. come back from a store....
"You forgot to buy ____________________."
"Oh, didn't you know? we're boycotting _________________... we will just have to make do with out it."
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)...
I'm sorry, I just think that's funny.
Archae
(46,359 posts)Here in Sheboygan county, there's a town called Johnsonville.
A sausage plant was built there, and it took off from there.
The thing I never hear from boycott advocates, what about the workers?
Raine
(30,541 posts)if it doesn't bother you, go for it.
CanonRay
(14,121 posts)I never buy them.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Make your own sausage, it really is not that difficult, it tastes waaaay better, and can be done rather cheaply.
Knocking out 25lbs. of Brats or Kielbasi takes very little time.
I make a dozen or so different styles of sausage, and my family and friends keep pestering me to increase my output to satisfy demand.
CanonRay
(14,121 posts)they taste about the same...lousy. I'd rather do without.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)in order to sell the most product so they produce, for the most part, under-seasoned and bland tasting sausages.
GarroHorus
(1,055 posts)I buy the sausages made by the butcher department in my local Whole Foods.
KatChatter
(194 posts)We as individuals have the choice as to where and on what we spend our money on and most people spend money every day.
Money and power is all that motivates the 1%.
Take away one or both and you hurt the 1%.
It is your money so choose wisely and make a difference.
obamanut2012
(26,161 posts)Taitertots
(7,745 posts)Do you really think that the money you don't spend of sausages vanishes from the economy?
If you were really worried about hurting workers, you would boycott companies when they are actively funding anti-worker ideologues.
It is clear where you stand on this issue. You care more about sausage than you care about the people of Wisconsin.
obamanut2012
(26,161 posts)raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)401k's rock!
suffragette
(12,232 posts)Looks like people added more options in comments. I'm sure there are more lists out there.
Local butcher shops can also be a good option. Even in Seattle, there are well-priced and much better tasting sausages made at some of the local shops. I'd think you'd have as many or more options there.
And that helps the local workers in your area much more directly since it's less likely there's a CEO paying himself higher wages and donating part of that to right wingers like Walker, who attack workers' pay and rights.
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)I boycott all meat products no matter who the manufacturer is.
bhikkhu
(10,725 posts)Corporations only have power because they have money, and they only have money because people give it to them. The whole system really works so that they don't give a crap about what anybody does or says as long as the money keeps coming in - but nothing speaks as loudly or as quickly as a downturn in profits - that's just the nature of the game.
As far as hurting workers, you are already hurting every worker who's products you don't buy - its just a matter of which ones you support and whether you think you can be a part of creating change. If a corporation behaves like bigoted assholes at the top, that may well be the corporate culture they enforce and encourage all the way down. No change is likely anywhere as long as everyone keeps "voting" for that shit, so to speak.