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muriel_volestrangler

(101,361 posts)
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 08:36 AM Sep 2016

Trump Makes White Nationalist Proposal; Media Doesn’t Notice

Let’s go to Trump:

We’ve admitted 59 million immigrants to the United States between 1965 and 2015. Many of these arrivals have greatly enriched our country. So true. But we now have an obligation to them and to their children to control future immigration as we are following, if you think, previous immigration waves...
To keep immigration levels measured by population share within historical norms. To select immigrants based on their likelihood of success in U.S. society and their ability to be financially self- sufficient.
We take anybody. Come on in, anybody. Just come on in. Not anymore.

What’s he mean by 1965? Well, reading most of the news, this morning, you’d never know. But I guarantee you that most KKK members and neo-Nazis know exactly what he is talking about.

In 1965, we passed the Immigration and Nationality Act. That law essentially repealed the crux of a 1920s law called the Emergency Quota Act.

The Emergency Quota Act (and a 1924 bill that slightly amended it) set quotas on immigration that were based on the number of people of a nationality currently in a country. The effect and intent of the law was abundantly clear. America was mostly white and European, and the law was going to keep it that way, by putting low and hard caps on “others,” while opening the doors to more white Europeans.
...
So, when Donald Trump points to 1965 and says we need to reform that law, “To keep immigration levels measured by population share within historical norms,” he means, “We need to keep America from becoming any more less white than it currently is.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-schmeltzer/trump-makes-white-nationa_b_11814808.html

He goes on to show the white supremacists know all about 1965. PZ Myers has more, from Steven Gould's The Mismeasure of Man:

Congressional debates leading to passage of the Immigration Restriction Act of 1924 frequently invoked the army data (misleading data from IQ tests). Eugenicists lobbied not only for limits to immigration, but for changing its character by imposing harsh quotas against nations of inferior stock—a feature of the 1924 act that might never have been implemented, or even considered, without the army data and eugenicist propaganda. In short, southern and eastern Europeans, the Alpine and Mediterranean nations with minimal scores on the army tests, should be kept out. The eugenicists battled and won one of the greatest victories of scientific racism in American history. The first restriction act of 1921 had set yearly quotas at 3 percent of immigrants from any nation then resident in America. The 1924 act, following a barrage of eugenicist propaganda, reset the quotas at 2 percent of people from each nation recorded in the 1890 census. The 1890 figures were used until 1930. Why 1890 and not 1920 since the act was passed in 1924? 1890 marked a watershed in the history of immigration. Southern and eastern Europeans arrived in relatively small numbers before then, but began to predominate thereafter. Cynical, but effective. “America must be kept American,” proclaimed Calvin Coolidge as he signed the bill.
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Trump Makes White Nationalist Proposal; Media Doesn’t Notice (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Sep 2016 OP
So in other words, bring in the supermodels and leave everyone else out. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2016 #1
Nothing "super" about them Scarsdale Sep 2016 #18
This should have 500 recs malaise Sep 2016 #2
We need to keep it kicked beyond Labor Day. Ilsa Sep 2016 #8
I think you're right malaise Sep 2016 #11
I just gave #101 awoke_in_2003 Sep 2016 #15
Sweet malaise Sep 2016 #16
Dog whistle after dog whistle after dog whistle... Blue Idaho Sep 2016 #3
Make America White Again mountain grammy Sep 2016 #4
Thanks for posting that PatSeg Sep 2016 #5
Important points...thanks for posting. Kicking for exposure. eom Tanuki Sep 2016 #6
This needs to be headline news, but it will be ignored. greatlaurel Sep 2016 #7
And it's worth noting that the "low, hard caps on others" in the 1924 quota law included Italians forest444 Sep 2016 #9
kicking.. we NEED translators who do "RWspeak". annabanana Sep 2016 #10
+1,000 malaise Sep 2016 #17
They want "The Turner Diaries" to become reality..... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2016 #12
Kicking ..... I would not have known this Kathy M Sep 2016 #13
The irony being BumRushDaShow Sep 2016 #14
It is interesting to note that the 1890 census was destroyed in 1934... icymist Sep 2016 #19
It's also worth noting that the Civil Rights Act was enacted only 6 mos prior loyalsister Sep 2016 #20
”And get that lady statue out of New York harbor, too." Beartracks Sep 2016 #21
To give CNN their due, Erin Burnett did pick up on the "population share within historical norms" muriel_volestrangler Sep 2016 #22
True malaise Sep 2016 #24
Hardly surprising. BYJ439 Sep 2016 #23
Millions Will Vote For Him No Matter What Comes Out colsohlibgal Sep 2016 #25
they are either down with his racism, or think he's being sarcastic. Fast Walker 52 Sep 2016 #28
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Sep 2016 #26
broader & more disturbing issue is how the news media doesn't want to talk about Trump's racism Fast Walker 52 Sep 2016 #27

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
18. Nothing "super" about them
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 03:28 PM
Sep 2016

Are they doing work American women are unqualified for? Maybe only with tRump? White Europeans mostly have superior social services, healthcare childcare, vacation time. Why would they WANT to come to a country that elects people such as Dubya and tRump? Where is Mrs. tRump - deported? Did he return her for a refund, or a younger model?

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
8. We need to keep it kicked beyond Labor Day.
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 11:12 AM
Sep 2016

My guess is there is less traffic today.
But I could be wrong about that.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
15. I just gave #101
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 02:11 PM
Sep 2016

He's traded in the dog whistle for a marching band, and TV media (and most print) will ignore it

Blue Idaho

(5,057 posts)
3. Dog whistle after dog whistle after dog whistle...
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 10:02 AM
Sep 2016

Wouldn't it be nice if we had a free and informed press that would report on Trump's white supremacist proposals?

mountain grammy

(26,655 posts)
4. Make America White Again
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 10:18 AM
Sep 2016

we hear you, Donald. We'll start by keeping "them" out and end with a holocaust, and there are plenty of Americans signing up for that.

PatSeg

(47,602 posts)
5. Thanks for posting that
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 10:18 AM
Sep 2016

I didn't know that about 1965.

"So true" - clearly he didn't write that. He says that like he's reading it for the first time. He did the same thing when he spoke at the church in Detroit.

greatlaurel

(2,004 posts)
7. This needs to be headline news, but it will be ignored.
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 10:53 AM
Sep 2016

Some of the talking heads will not understand it and some of the talking heads agree with Trump.

Great post. Thanks! I love PZ Myers. His blog is outstanding.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
9. And it's worth noting that the "low, hard caps on others" in the 1924 quota law included Italians
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 11:20 AM
Sep 2016

as well as other Mediterranean nationalities (Spanish, Greek, Yugoslavian, etc.) and Eastern Europeans.

It's a prescient point even now because for decades, voters in many of the ethnicities listed above were staunchly Republican (often for cultural/religious reasons) - but the Republican "base" never really welcomed them at all.

In fact, the really hard-right element in the GOP base (30-50% of the party) often doesn't even consider Southern or Eastern Europeans "white."

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
12. They want "The Turner Diaries" to become reality.....
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 12:05 PM
Sep 2016

Everyone like up for your DNA screening.

We don't want any "trick babies".

BumRushDaShow

(129,491 posts)
14. The irony being
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 12:45 PM
Sep 2016

that many of the ones pushing for this, including Drumpf, came from families who only came here in the early 20th century. The New York Public Library has a good summary site on immigration history -

In 1868, the Fourteenth Amendment protected, with some qualifications, “all persons born in the United States” as citizens; African-Americans could naturalize after 1870, while Native American naturalization was restricted in 1887.

<...>

With the exception of Irish Catholics, the majority of immigrants before 1882 were Protestants from Northern and Western Europe. By 1907, three out of four immigrants were Catholics and Jews from Southern and Eastern Europe.

The 1924 Immigration Act passed by Congress targeted specific nationalities with quota restrictions. The number of newcomers from Southern and Eastern Europeans nations allowed into the U.S. would now be limited to 2% of the total number of people from those origin countries listed in the 1890 United States census. For example, if one million individuals were listed in the 1890 federal census as born in Italy, then only 20,000 Italians would be allowed entry into the United States annually after 1924.

The 1930s were characterized by more departures from the U.S. than arrivals, while quota laws, World War II, internment camps, and the suppression of ethnicities of wartime enemies were some of the factors causing levels of immigration to decrease.

<...>

https://www.nypl.org/blog/2016/07/01/us-immigration-history

icymist

(15,888 posts)
19. It is interesting to note that the 1890 census was destroyed in 1934...
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 03:30 PM
Sep 2016

after being heavily damaged in a fire at the Commerce Building in January, 1921.

Availability of 1890 Census

Most of the census' population schedules were badly damaged by a fire in the Commerce Department Building in January 1921

A newspaper photograph captured the scene after a
devastating fire and pointed out the need for safe
storage of national records.
Photo courtesy of the National Archives.


https://www.census.gov/history/www/genealogy/decennial_census_records/availability_of_1890_census.html

Meanwhile, the still soggy, "charred about the edges" original and only copies of the 1890 schedules remained in ruins. At the end of January, the records damaged in the fire were moved for temporary storage. Over the next few months, rumors spread that salvage attempts would not be made and that Census Director Sam Rogers had recommended that Congress authorize destruction of the 1890 census. Prominent historians, attorneys, and genealogical organizations wrote to new Secretary of Commerce Herbert Hoover, the Librarian of Congress, and other government officials in protest. The National Genealogical Society (NGS) and Daughters of the American Revolution formally petitioned Hoover and Congress, and the editor of the NGS Quarterly warned that a nationwide movement would begin among state societies and the press if Congress seriously considered destruction.(22) The content of replies to the groups was invariably the same; denial of any planned destruction and calls for Congress to provide for an archives building. Herbert Hoover wrote "the actual cost of providing a watchman and extra fire service [to protect records] probably amounts to more, if we take the government as a whole, than it would cost to put up a proper fire-proof archive building.&quot 23)

Still no appropriation for an archives was forthcoming. By May of 1921 the records were still piled in a large warehouse where, complained new census director William Steuart, they could not be consulted and would probably gradually deteriorate. Steuart arranged for their transfer back to the census building, to be bound where possible, but at least put in some order for reference.(24)

The extant record is scanty on storage and possible use of the 1890 schedules between 1922 and 1932 and seemingly silent on what precipitated the following chain of events. In December 1932, in accordance with federal records procedures at the time, the Chief Clerk of the Bureau of Census sent the Librarian of Congress a list of papers no longer necessary for current business and scheduled for destruction. He asked the Librarian to report back to him any documents that should be retained for their historical interest. Item 22 on the list for Bureau of the Census read "Schedules, Population . . . 1890, Original." The Librarian identified no records as permanent, the list was sent forward, and Congress authorized destruction on February 21, 1933. At least one report states the 1890 census papers were finally destroyed in 1935, and a small scribbled note found in a Census Bureau file states "remaining schedules destroyed by Department of Commerce in 1934 (not approved by the Geographer).&quot 25) Further study is necessary to determine, if possible, what happened to the fervent and vigilant voices that championed these schedules in 1921. How were these records overlooked by Library of Congress staff? Who in the Census Bureau determined the schedules were useless, why, and when? Ironically, just one day before Congress authorized destruction of the 1890 census papers, President Herbert Hoover laid the cornerstone for the National Archives Building

http://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/1996/spring/1890-census-1.html

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
20. It's also worth noting that the Civil Rights Act was enacted only 6 mos prior
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 04:39 PM
Sep 2016

in june of 1964. It's also no accident that the 50s era that predates the national recognized civil rights movement is considered a golden age.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,361 posts)
22. To give CNN their due, Erin Burnett did pick up on the "population share within historical norms"
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 06:24 PM
Sep 2016
CNN's Erin Burnett Presses Trump Advisor On His Appeal To White Supremacists And The KKK
Burnett: “Is There Any Way To Interpret That Other Than Keep This Country White?”

BURNETT: So let me ask you, when Trump said -- and you just heard him there in Trump's piece -- he said, "to keep immigration levels, measured by population share, within historical norms", what is he saying? Because historically that would mean that you're going to preserve a white country. If it changes and you have more people who are not white that want to come into the United States, this country could become white unless you were to keep immigration levels measured by population share within historical norms. Is that a white supremacist thing to say?

MICHAEL FLYNN: I don't know the details of that so you've got me on that one there.

[...]

BURNETT: I know you said this is sort of beyond your area, but 'to keep immigration levels measured by population share within historical norms'? Is there any way to interpret that other than to keep this country white?

FLYNN: I don't know. I don't know. I think what you'd have to do is you have to look at how do we currently do it, and the way we currently bring immigrants into this country and then take people through the legal process which I believe takes about 18 months on average. That's what I believe. I think that that system is obviously not working, and the number of individuals in this country that stay beyond their visa period that are here, again, illegally, I mean, we have to fix this problem. We have to have security in this country. If we don't, then we don't have a country.

http://mediamatters.org/video/2016/09/01/cnns-erin-burnett-presses-trump-advisor-his-appeal-white-supremacists-and-kkk/212827
 

BYJ439

(27 posts)
23. Hardly surprising.
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 06:43 PM
Sep 2016

Drumpf is just following the footsteps of his KKK father. I'm surprised he hasn't started wearing a white robe and hood at his rallies yet. Or better yet, donned himself in blackface, as part of his black American "outreach". Sickening man.

But 40 percent of this country will vote for this imbecile. Sad.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
25. Millions Will Vote For Him No Matter What Comes Out
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 07:34 PM
Sep 2016

Seig Heil, we are in a nation full of reactionaries and/or the brain dead.

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