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sheshe2

(83,786 posts)
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 05:23 PM Aug 2016

Cop cruelly blasts 84-year-old black woman in the face with pepper spray — in her own home

VIDEO: Cop cruelly blasts 84-year-old black woman in the face with pepper spray — in her own home



The Muskogee police department in Oklahoma has released video of a police officer using pepper spray on an elderly woman.

Body-cam video of the incident shows an officer using chemical irritant on 84-year-old Geneva Smith last week in her house. The video was given to local news outlet FOX23 this week.

Officers were following the woman’s 56-year-old son, Arthur Paul Blackmon, for running a stop sign. Blackmon led police back to his mother’s house and entered, refusing police commands to stop.

An officer kicked in the door and entered the house, and shot Blackmon with an electrical stun gun while he had his hands raised.


Six other officers entered the residence, and Smith emerged from a room before being ordered to turn around. About 40 seconds later, an officer uses pepper spray on her.

Video at the link:
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/cop-cruelly-blasts-84-year-old-black-woman-in-the-face-with-pepper-spray-in-her-own-home/

She is 84 years old! What the hell? F**kers!

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Cop cruelly blasts 84-year-old black woman in the face with pepper spray — in her own home (Original Post) sheshe2 Aug 2016 OP
Brave officers. If an 84 year old causes them to lose their shit, maybe they should find msanthrope Aug 2016 #1
You are exactly right, msanthrope. sheshe2 Aug 2016 #3
She could have died, but I also hope the other officers realize that having msanthrope Aug 2016 #4
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Get real. If one police officer can't calm an 84 year old woman diplomaticly, then Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2016 #49
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oh get off your high horse... chillfactor Aug 2016 #52
Ther job is not to abuse elrly women. mysuzuki2 Aug 2016 #63
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I think the website you want Canoe52 Aug 2016 #65
Your post awoke_in_2003 Aug 2016 #70
Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #57
.. Liberal_in_LA Aug 2016 #2
Ugh! Rex Aug 2016 #5
What a tough guy. sheshe2 Aug 2016 #7
I don't get why aggressive action was needed, I see nothing in the story to indicate the need. Rex Aug 2016 #10
I no longer believe that. kristopher Aug 2016 #17
If most cops were good folks Mariana Aug 2016 #71
I didn't think it was a guy scscholar Aug 2016 #29
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for running a stop sign... CurtEastPoint Aug 2016 #6
I have to say. sheshe2 Aug 2016 #8
At same time a white guy can brandish a firearm & be peacefully arrested. No spray. No bullets. ..nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2016 #13
Yeah, they just wait them out. Ilsa Aug 2016 #22
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that is what stunned me - kicking in a door for running a stop sign nadine_mn Aug 2016 #36
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go away already...you are becoming boring n/t chillfactor Aug 2016 #54
Absolutely sickening! n/t radicalliberal Aug 2016 #9
what's the use of carrying stuff like if your not going to use it? rurallib Aug 2016 #11
Seven officers couldn't handle 56 yo guy and 84 yo woman without help from weapons? Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2016 #12
Now what would give you that idea, citizen? Rex Aug 2016 #14
And Trump says we need PatSeg Aug 2016 #31
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You are very confused. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2016 #48
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The more cops the better? Are you an Authoritarian Follower? Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2016 #51
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Dumb question - Why did they tase the teen at the 1:05 mark? citood Aug 2016 #16
It was Geneva's 56 year old son. sheshe2 Aug 2016 #18
Need to get my eyes checked...and ears cleaned citood Aug 2016 #26
His mom got 40 seconds. sheshe2 Aug 2016 #28
SEVEN f****** officers because some guy ran a stop sign? are you KIDDING ME??????? niyad Aug 2016 #19
Geneva could easily have died from their vicious treatment. sheshe2 Aug 2016 #24
as was commented earlier, it is a wonder that mother and son are not in the morgue. niyad Aug 2016 #25
Some would call it a war on African-Americans malaise Aug 2016 #69
That poor woman! Totally uncalled for! DawgHouse Aug 2016 #20
can't they just mail the guy a traffic ticket? and/or boot the car if he's got outstanding tickets? unblock Aug 2016 #21
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I didn't know running a stop sign and not listening to officer's commands warranted door kick-ins. TheBlackAdder Aug 2016 #23
I am so sick of reading this shit, over & over & over. -nt CrispyQ Aug 2016 #27
Beneath contempt. raging moderate Aug 2016 #30
I was wondering if PatSeg Aug 2016 #32
Yeah, me too. raging moderate Aug 2016 #35
Entry without a warrant PatSeg Aug 2016 #38
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probable NOTHING! chillfactor Aug 2016 #56
There's something wrong with our Police Departments rockfordfile Aug 2016 #33
MurderKops do as they please SwankyXomb Aug 2016 #34
Another sociopath has found it's calling. GeorgeGist Aug 2016 #37
whatever happened to just getting a warrant zz-la Aug 2016 #39
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we have a troll in our midst!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! chillfactor Aug 2016 #58
Certainly seems so. It created a new account to make 13 rapid-fire posts in this thread. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2016 #62
Don't you ever give up? Maybe try crocheting little animals from yard spun from laundry fuzz. uppityperson Aug 2016 #59
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The Police are Amok! Sad! burrowowl Aug 2016 #66
Those cops should be ashamed to show their faces in public. DLevine Aug 2016 #67
Sickening. What an outrage! smirkymonkey Aug 2016 #68
and donnie douche says he will just turn the cops loose to fix things. niyad Aug 2016 #72
 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
1. Brave officers. If an 84 year old causes them to lose their shit, maybe they should find
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 05:27 PM
Aug 2016

another line of work.

sheshe2

(83,786 posts)
3. You are exactly right, msanthrope.
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 05:32 PM
Aug 2016

I can't even imagine the pain and fear Geneva felt. That could have triggered a heart attack then and there.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
4. She could have died, but I also hope the other officers realize that having
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 05:34 PM
Aug 2016

a loose cannon like that around them is bad news.

Six cops.....and not one had the command authority to talk to an 84 year old woman, calm her down, and behave in her home. Not one. Cowards.

Response to msanthrope (Reply #4)

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
49. Get real. If one police officer can't calm an 84 year old woman diplomaticly, then
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 12:38 AM
Aug 2016

then one police officer can hold her in place just fine.

Big deal if the stop sign runner escaped. They have his address.

Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #49)

mysuzuki2

(3,521 posts)
63. Ther job is not to abuse elrly women.
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 01:08 AM
Aug 2016

If you support he actions of this officer, you need to look in the mirror and give some thought to what kind of a person you are.

Response to mysuzuki2 (Reply #63)

Canoe52

(2,948 posts)
65. I think the website you want
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 01:34 AM
Aug 2016

Is way over there....no a little further right...there you go, yep, way over there, to the right...

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
70. Your post
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 03:50 PM
Aug 2016

reminds me of the scene in Goodfellas when Deniro was sending Karen down the street to pick out a dress

Response to msanthrope (Reply #1)

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
10. I don't get why aggressive action was needed, I see nothing in the story to indicate the need.
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 05:47 PM
Aug 2016

We just have to remember that although most cops are good folks, there are some real ASSHOLES on the force that like to make others miserable.

They need to be weeded out ASAP.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
17. I no longer believe that.
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 06:40 PM
Aug 2016

Their personnel recruitment tools allow them to select for the qualities they want. They are deliberately selecting for lack of empathy and willingness to place group loyalty above all else.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
71. If most cops were good folks
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 04:40 PM
Aug 2016

most of the assholes would already have been weeded out. The good folks would be taking care of the problem. They aren't.

 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
29. I didn't think it was a guy
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 07:02 PM
Aug 2016

Of course my Internet connection is so slow that I'm seeing about one frame every ten seconds and the video and audio were skipping, so I could be wrong but that isn't what it looked like to me.

Plus, this situation was probably even worse than reported because keep in mind that this is from Fox.

Response to sheshe2 (Reply #7)

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
22. Yeah, they just wait them out.
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 06:45 PM
Aug 2016

No nanpower expense is goo great in playing the waiting game for non-POC.

Response to CurtEastPoint (Reply #6)

nadine_mn

(3,702 posts)
36. that is what stunned me - kicking in a door for running a stop sign
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 08:29 PM
Aug 2016

and pepper spraying an elderly woman after using the taser on her son.

Response to nadine_mn (Reply #36)

rurallib

(62,420 posts)
11. what's the use of carrying stuff like if your not going to use it?
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 05:52 PM
Aug 2016

You know, like Trump said about the nuclear bombs - what good is having them if you don't use them once in a while.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
12. Seven officers couldn't handle 56 yo guy and 84 yo woman without help from weapons?
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 05:54 PM
Aug 2016

They really do need to "find another line of work" or go through double time training in "community policing".

Too many officers think they are there to [font size = "+1"]lay down the law[/font] rather than [font size = "+1"]serve the community.[/font]

PatSeg

(47,496 posts)
31. And Trump says we need
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 07:06 PM
Aug 2016

MORE cops. So many videos that we've seen have shown an excessive amount of police for even the most minor infractions. The number of cops that showed up in New York for the illegal sale of loose cigarettes comes to mind. What the hell!

Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #12)

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
48. You are very confused.
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 12:35 AM
Aug 2016

The Judicial system lays down the law.

Police are not judge, jury, and executioner as they so often act when they lay down the law.

Serving the community would be to not apply 7 cops to chase one black guy simply because he ran a stop sign.

Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #48)

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
51. The more cops the better? Are you an Authoritarian Follower?
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 12:42 AM
Aug 2016

Between cops pepper spraying 84 yo women and busting 20-somethings for a joint, there never seem to be enough of them to arrest Breitbart Chief / Trump Campaign Chief Bannon for voter fraud in Florida.

Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #51)

citood

(550 posts)
26. Need to get my eyes checked...and ears cleaned
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 06:51 PM
Aug 2016

His hands were up...and the police gave him around 1/32 of a second to comply, before tasing him.

sheshe2

(83,786 posts)
28. His mom got 40 seconds.
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 06:54 PM
Aug 2016

They both were on the floor in pain seconds after they knocked the door down.

&^%$%^&*()

sheshe2

(83,786 posts)
24. Geneva could easily have died from their vicious treatment.
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 06:48 PM
Aug 2016

She is 84 and black.

They are sniveling cowards that should be fired.

unblock

(52,247 posts)
21. can't they just mail the guy a traffic ticket? and/or boot the car if he's got outstanding tickets?
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 06:43 PM
Aug 2016

whatever happened inside the house, i don't understand the forcible entry in the first place.

Response to unblock (Reply #21)

raging moderate

(4,305 posts)
30. Beneath contempt.
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 07:04 PM
Aug 2016

I wonder if it might have been unconstitutional? The right to be secure in their own homes, etc. This lady was assaulted and injured in her own home suddenly through no fault of her own.

raging moderate

(4,305 posts)
35. Yeah, me too.
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 08:14 PM
Aug 2016

Why didn't they have to get a warrant? I remember watching a movie made just before the Second World War. In this movie, a Nazi spy jeers at the United States because the American police have refused to force entry into a home because of constitutional rights. "Even a child can refuse to give them entry; how weak!" Later in this movie, the wisdom of the Constitution is shown as the Nazi spy's arrogance proves to be his undoing, and it is suggested that this arrogance will prove to be the undoing of the German Third Reich. Now, arrogance and American Exceptionalism are prized by the Right Wingers. In a high school where I worked, a poster on the wall exhorted the students that pride was a great quality that caused people to win and succeed and become Number One. When I was a girl, we were taught the Bible verse (Proverbs, I believe) that says, "Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall."
If we truly uphold the Constitution, even a child or even an 84 year old lady have Constitutional rights.

PatSeg

(47,496 posts)
38. Entry without a warrant
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 10:25 PM
Aug 2016

is something we see brought up often in cop dramas. It is practically a cliche, where a cop has to pretend he hears someone in distress inside as an excuse to forcefully enter a residence. It doesn't sound like the cops in this case even hesitated. All this over a traffic violation? Perhaps the same rules don't apply in a minority neighborhood.

Response to PatSeg (Reply #38)

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zz-la

(224 posts)
39. whatever happened to just getting a warrant
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 10:38 PM
Aug 2016

If the guy was only guilty of running a stop sign and then refused to stop and went home, just get a warrant. I am pretty sure they could have retrieved the necessary information to get the warrant. Instead they had to kick open a door and assault an 84 year old woman. So stupid and unnecessary. Cops always seem to be on roid rage, and just go blinding mad, instead of doing what they are supposed to do and that it deescalate the situation.

Response to zz-la (Reply #39)

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
59. Don't you ever give up? Maybe try crocheting little animals from yard spun from laundry fuzz.
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 12:56 AM
Aug 2016

That's a more productive hobby!

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #59)

DLevine

(1,788 posts)
67. Those cops should be ashamed to show their faces in public.
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 07:12 AM
Aug 2016

Instead, they are probably patting themselves on the back for a job well done. After all, they are all that stand between us and all those scary great-grandmas minding their own business in their own homes.

Cowards need to find a job where being cowardly doesn't put other people's lives at risk.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
68. Sickening. What an outrage!
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 07:43 AM
Aug 2016

This is so wrong, but I won't hold my breath until these assholes are punished as they should be.

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