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WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 12:33 PM Jun 2012

McCain: Adelson directing foreign money into Mitten's campaign

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) said that casino magnate Sheldon Adelson "is indirectly injecting millions of dollar in Chinese foreign money into Mitt Romney's presidential election effort," Josh Rogin reports.

Said McCain: "Much of Mr. Adelson's casino profits that go to him come from his casino in Macau, which says that obviously, maybe in a roundabout way foreign money is coming into an American political campaign... That is a great deal of money, and we need a level playing field and we need to go back to the realization... that we have to have a limit on the flow of money and corporations are not people."

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/06/15/mccain_says_adelson_pumping_foreign_money_into_campaign.html

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McCain: Adelson directing foreign money into Mitten's campaign (Original Post) WI_DEM Jun 2012 OP
Wow. McCain says something of value for once. tabatha Jun 2012 #1
he used to be rational...gotta thank him for stating the obvious here. elehhhhna Jun 2012 #11
Thank you John McCain. n/t kiranon Jun 2012 #2
but alito assured us that foreign money wouldn't find its way to america political campaigns! unblock Jun 2012 #3
Alito - during Obama's SOTU xxqqqzme Jun 2012 #16
It kind of tickles me when I hear that Obama's economy made Adelson billions. dkf Jun 2012 #4
I wonder how much of that money came from prostitution aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 2012 #5
Money laundering Tom Ripley Jun 2012 #12
His Money Is Still Green... KharmaTrain Jun 2012 #17
will the media say that a Romney surrogate is off message? WI_DEM Jun 2012 #6
"Chinese prostitution money funding Romney campaign"...When will I see that headline crazylikafox Jun 2012 #7
I'm amazed McCain said that. The teabaggers sufrommich Jun 2012 #8
This part made me laugh. Shadowflash Jun 2012 #9
If the Dems were smart.. virgdem Jun 2012 #10
We knew that on DU four years ago. Here's the Adelson Macau story when he was funding McCain: leveymg Jun 2012 #13
Thank you, Senator McCain for pointing this out. JDPriestly Jun 2012 #14
Either McCain isn't getting enough $$ or turtlerescue1 Jun 2012 #15
The "Three-Legged Stool" Is Falling Apart... KharmaTrain Jun 2012 #18
They are all fearful that power xxqqqzme Jun 2012 #20
I believe it was McCain and the guy that should have been INdemo Jun 2012 #21
This post for Lt. Col Franklin A. Caras, CO and in 1967 turtlerescue1 Jun 2012 #22
hopefully get this right. turtlerescue1 Jun 2012 #24
McCain is right. Blue_In_AK Jun 2012 #19
McCain must have had a brain fart. Tennessee Gal Jun 2012 #23
McCain is Playing the Same Game as Bill Clinton bucolic_frolic Jun 2012 #25
Basically , John Macain is an angry old man maindawg Jun 2012 #26
thank the supreme court for the ability to inject ANY money into american politics spanone Jun 2012 #27
so mr mccain, why are you not calling for congressional hearings into this? sounds treasonous to me spanone Jun 2012 #28
Once the Chinese money is Adelson's it is under the control of his Mossad wife FarCenter Jun 2012 #29
the Maverick Returns proud patriot Jun 2012 #30

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
16. Alito - during Obama's SOTU
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 02:42 PM
Jun 2012

(lips moving as he says to himself) 'That's not true', as Obama slams into 'Citizen's United' during speech.

So McCain must be wrong.

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
4. It kind of tickles me when I hear that Obama's economy made Adelson billions.
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 12:42 PM
Jun 2012

McCain has it right in that Adelson has the means because of China.

This goes to another point...many corporations are healthy and making record profits because they are making a lot of money overseas. But private enterprise that doesn't have access to Overseas markets aren't doing so well and probably need help. This is where Obama's analysis that the private sector is doing fine seems out of touch to me personally.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
5. I wonder how much of that money came from prostitution
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 12:44 PM
Jun 2012
http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2012/01/27/adelson-casino-empire-investigated-for-mob-ties-prostitution-2/

Adelson's foreign casino is under investigation for its ties to the Triad, Chinese organized crime and their prostitution activities tied to his Macao casino.

I wonder how the fundies would feel if it turns out that the Republican candidate is advertising for their vote with prostitution money.

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
17. His Money Is Still Green...
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 02:45 PM
Jun 2012

...and Adelson is an Orthodox Jew...the fundies need him to fulfill their armageddon dreams...

crazylikafox

(2,762 posts)
7. "Chinese prostitution money funding Romney campaign"...When will I see that headline
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 12:51 PM
Jun 2012

on my TeeVee & in the papers????

Shadowflash

(1,536 posts)
9. This part made me laugh.
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 12:58 PM
Jun 2012

'injecting millions of dollar in Chinese foreign money'

I couldn't help but read it in a stereotypical broken English Chinese accent. All because of a missing 'S'.


Sorry.

virgdem

(2,127 posts)
10. If the Dems were smart..
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 01:00 PM
Jun 2012

they would jump on this quote and use it immediately against RMoney. Turnabout is fair play after the Corey Booker fiasco.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
13. We knew that on DU four years ago. Here's the Adelson Macau story when he was funding McCain:
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 01:11 PM
Jun 2012

There seems to have been a little falling out between John McCain and Shel.

See, http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=37043

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
14. Thank you, Senator McCain for pointing this out.
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 01:49 PM
Jun 2012

I just posted on this, maybe yesterday.

Here is what I said in my first post on this:

I know he really holds that much money. But is he partly just a bank? And if so, who are the depositors? Or maybe I should better say, what organizations are the depositors?

I don't have any answers, but I think there is little difference between a bank and a casino sometimes. People win and lose. The person who lost big last week could just win big this week. No one regulates casinos to see if the wins and losses are for real. How could they? After all it is theoretically just chance, just the odds. Or is it? You never hear of a casino going broke. Why not? If the games are not somewhat rigged (in terms of odds of winning), then why don't casinos go broke? Or do they and we don't hear about it?

And couldn't poker games for the very rich and influential be rigged quite easily if everyone was in on it? What's more couldn't the formality of a game just be foregone?

I think that casinos are an invitation to graft and corruption. I don't know why gambling was legalized unless it was to be strictly regulated. Maybe it is. Does anyone know?

Even if it is regulated in the US, I believe that some of Adelson's casinos are offshore. Why do we allow casino money in the US?

My second post:

Casinos. Not accusing anyone but can anyone think of a better way to launder

elicit money than to run casinos, international casinos?

Big, fat money-men go to those casinos. Who's to say whether they "lose" their money or "loose" their money once they are at the tables?

Who's to say what the country of origin is of Adelson's money?

If you wanted to change the nationality of money, let's say money from the Chinese government or from some wealthy Middle Eastern arms dealer, what better place to do it than in a casino?

I have no evidence. This is "just" a conspiracy theory.

These posts are at:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=143814

I'm not surprised that John McCain saw this. I think I recall from the 2008 election campaigns that he had a lot to do with gaming regulation in the US. That's from my recollection.

But this immediately occurred to me when I saw what Adelson is giving, and I also protested against McCain because of what I believe to be his ties to the gambling industry. I should explain, I believe that McCain was involved in regulating gambling not necessarily gambling himself.

turtlerescue1

(1,013 posts)
15. Either McCain isn't getting enough $$ or
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 02:07 PM
Jun 2012

the dispute with Teapartyers/Sandbaggers is a real issue for the GOP. McCain never stood up for fellow POW/MIA s not even accounting for them so- gotta be skeptical of his motives.

So this week alone: Jeb, Sununu, Lindsey Graham and now McCain, get out the popcorn, this movie could get interesting.

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
18. The "Three-Legged Stool" Is Falling Apart...
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 02:50 PM
Jun 2012

The establishment/moderates are now fighting the fundies who don't trust the teabaggers...the rushpublican party has been splintering for years and "moderates" (slightly to the left of Atilla the Hun) like Gramps are staking out their turf for what they anticipate a Rmoney loss. While the corporate media tries to play up how vulnerable this President is, a look closer at the numbers show that Rmoney hasn't really sold his case. File this under: Hedging bets 101...

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
20. They are all fearful that power
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 02:52 PM
Jun 2012

is slipping through their fingers because rmoney is such a loser. They are just now coming to the realization he is a puppet but none of them are holding any strings.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
21. I believe it was McCain and the guy that should have been
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 03:36 PM
Jun 2012

president John Kerry,that traveled to Vietnam and with the best info they had tried to find MIAs and former POW's that were then listed as MIAs but their efforts were in vein because the Vietnamese Gov't did not cooperate as they agreed to do originally.
So I would argue for McCain that "McCain never stood up for fellow POW/MIA" is just not true.

turtlerescue1

(1,013 posts)
22. This post for Lt. Col Franklin A. Caras, CO and in 1967
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 07:19 PM
Jun 2012

I remember when Kerry and McCain went over. they had access to a lot more classified info that those of Stateside. The closest we came, (via FIA) were the French. Spent a lot of years fuming, if you are familiar you know that the hope was to get some to France, and then to Canada, and smuggle them in using SSN's of folks like my deceased Dad. Do you remember "W"s dad when the League of Families were "allowed" meet with George, he told them to "Sit down and shut up". The year? Wellstone was in the Senate and he also tried to get some progress. Kerry and McCain did too much for show, and little for progress or answers.The French remained in Nam, and many more than one sighting of Caucasians took place, but that's as far as we ever got. THIS topic I do know a little about.

Minnesota has/had (??) a group MINNESOTA WON'T FORGET, and many documents they did get their hands on. You know the ones unclassified with a whole lot of black ink lines through most of the pages.

It took how many years to get that POW/MIA postage stamp? AND how many to get that black and white flag flown WITH Old Glory?

The last I heard there was one POW for sure in Iraq, and it wasn't looking good.

WE could have bought off the VN gov't, that's what they wanted.

The hope was the John McCain once he was "returned" would make his life's work about POW/MIA s.

Sorry, this topic goes as deep- as how the guys coming back from TDY SE Asia were snubbed by BOTH the Legion and VFW for years, because it wasn't a Declared war, merely a police-action. Suicide rate? Homeless? Napalm and Agent Orange- and what is that cute diagnosis SOME VA docs call it to get around the "rhetoric"?

Some things have changed, but far too much has only gotten more rediculous.

bucolic_frolic

(43,311 posts)
25. McCain is Playing the Same Game as Bill Clinton
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 12:36 AM
Jun 2012

In an election year, trying to appear reasonable to moderates and independents
to enhance his party's credibility at the polling booth.

Clinton called Romney's record impressive or something like that, McCain realizes
the GOP has a perception problem with all that money, so he says what he said today.

McCain may also still have ideas of campaign finance reform, since it was a big issue
during his Senate career and record.

Of course calling the $100 million for what it is changes nothing about what influence
the money will have, so it's politically empty rhetoric.

 

maindawg

(1,151 posts)
26. Basically , John Macain is an angry old man
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 10:54 AM
Jun 2012

He is not very bright. he feels that he has been used and abused by the rethuglican party and he is right about that. When they need to wrap themselves in the flag he is their boy. He gets a seat at the table but never at the head of the table. When he had his shot, he chose grifter mcpalin. Major malfunction there. He ditched his own family for a bimbo with a billion dollars. He is a cheater, and he is a slime ball.
So he will take cheap shots . He will make dumb statements and he will forever be the favor of the dumbest people in America. The tea monkeys , the people who worship the military, and the conspiracy nuts.

spanone

(135,886 posts)
28. so mr mccain, why are you not calling for congressional hearings into this? sounds treasonous to me
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 11:31 AM
Jun 2012
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