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snooper2

(30,151 posts)
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 09:59 AM Aug 2016

Florida now has a capybara problem

Seriously thinking about getting one someday. We have two guinea pigs so I guess the poop is similar just bigger


http://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2016/08/16/florida-now-has-a-capybara-problem?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark

Joining an already robust list of invasive species, capybaras, the world's largest rodents, are now popping up in Florida.

Speaking at the 53rd Annual Conference of the Animal Behavior Society, biologist Elizabeth Congdon, of Bethune-Cookman University in Daytona Beach, says a known group of capybaras are living and breeding in Northern Florida.

It's believed the semi-aquatic South American mammal was accidentally released in Florida (meaning, someone's pet escaped) sometime in the early 21st century.

The massive rodent prefers to live in tropical forest areas along rivers, lakes and marshes and it's estimated that there are at least 50 currently living in the Florida wilds.

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Florida now has a capybara problem (Original Post) snooper2 Aug 2016 OP
At least they are cute Motley13 Aug 2016 #1
There's also a colony of wild monkeys living near the Fort Lauderdale airport. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2016 #6
Oh, they're actual monkeys. Thought this was going to describe a group of Trump supporters. bluesbassman Aug 2016 #14
I saw 2 of them running across US 1 on my way back from the airport one time. Motley13 Aug 2016 #19
Cute, yes, but I appreciate the heads-up from Snooper2! Hortensis Aug 2016 #25
For some reasons, ducks love to flock to Capybaras. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2016 #40
That's so sweet. We have ducks and other water birds. Hortensis Aug 2016 #41
They are definitely cute animals, love the whiskers Warpy Aug 2016 #28
Northern Germany has a wild colony of south-american rheas. DetlefK Aug 2016 #2
I guess OkSustainAg Aug 2016 #3
There's something wrong with this article! Beach Rat Aug 2016 #4
You should have warned people before posting that. yortsed snacilbuper Aug 2016 #13
That's a limbed snake. Please. jmowreader Aug 2016 #15
A hairless weasel. lpbk2713 Aug 2016 #30
That will haunt my dreams. nt msanthrope Aug 2016 #21
I agree. Opening this was a nasty shock. Hortensis Aug 2016 #24
My kid loves her guinea pigs. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2016 #5
So they are legal in Texas and Pennsylvania but other states you would have to check snooper2 Aug 2016 #7
They eat guinea pigs in Peru, known as cuy Motley13 Aug 2016 #20
Send in the Nutria Patrol NightWatcher Aug 2016 #8
I once rescued a dog from a nutria leg trap. I hope those days are gone. nolabear Aug 2016 #9
Didn't even know what a Nutria was, apparently according to at least one chef they are good cooking! snooper2 Aug 2016 #10
I once tried on a nutria fur jacket and it was gorgeous. nolabear Aug 2016 #11
I'm certain your reluctance to post the video was simply to avoid offense LanternWaste Aug 2016 #12
No, it was to avoid a hidden post LOL snooper2 Aug 2016 #17
I was stationed in New Orleans when I was in the Coast Guard, yortsed snacilbuper Aug 2016 #18
Okay, I laughed....nt msanthrope Aug 2016 #22
Capybara are considered good food, with 1.5% fat content. Some Venezuelans farm-raise Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #31
With some fava beans and a nice chianti - yummi DrDan Aug 2016 #39
My now 26 yr old... 3catwoman3 Aug 2016 #16
The original justification for eating fish on fast days Warpy Aug 2016 #29
Floridians still haven't learned the lessons of invasive species... Blue_Tires Aug 2016 #23
Offensive DrDan Aug 2016 #26
Hey, my state is fair game when it fucks up, too... Blue_Tires Aug 2016 #34
So insults to millions is ok - how progressive DrDan Aug 2016 #35
It's not my state that has the capybara problem Blue_Tires Aug 2016 #36
You are the one who felt the urge to insult millions here who had nothing to do with the problem - DrDan Aug 2016 #38
Perhaps you consider Floridians as "invasive species." Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #32
No... Blue_Tires Aug 2016 #37
Invasive species are a world-wide problem... there are too many pet owners JCMach1 Aug 2016 #33
That seems a little unfair to the entire state.... yardwork Aug 2016 #42
We also have a large-rodent problem in the governor's mansion DrDan Aug 2016 #27

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,189 posts)
6. There's also a colony of wild monkeys living near the Fort Lauderdale airport.
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 11:42 AM
Aug 2016
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/dania-beach/fl-dania-monkeys-20150821-story.html

For half a century, they have haunted the swampy forests east of Federal Highway.

The Dania Beach monkeys, African vervet monkeys thought to have been released by an old tourist attraction in the 1950s, beg bananas, mangoes and other handouts from people who live and work at the edges of their habitat.


The monkey colony has been a shadowy, little-known aspect of South Florida life, with the monkeys hiding in the almost impenetrable mangrove forests west of Port Everglades. But a Ph.D. student at Florida Atlantic University has begun shedding light on them, launching the first systematic study of them in 20 years. Her initial conclusions: Despite talk that the colony was dying out, it appears to be stable and enjoys broad popularity in the surrounding community.

"We're seeing offspring every year," said Missy Williams, who is pursuing her doctorate in integrative biology. "They seem to be doing OK. I'm finding overwhelmingly that people really enjoy the monkeys being there. They see a hint of humanity in them. It brings a sense of joy to them — they play and frolic, and people enjoy feeding them."

Motley13

(3,867 posts)
19. I saw 2 of them running across US 1 on my way back from the airport one time.
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 02:33 PM
Aug 2016

forgot to mention the gazillion iguanas

We have had a family of Egyptian Geese visit every winter.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
25. Cute, yes, but I appreciate the heads-up from Snooper2!
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 04:25 PM
Aug 2016

Our Florida place is surrounded on 2 sides by pond/marsh with more large wilderness beyond, and it's definitely Wild Kingdom out there.

So I'm very glad to learn about these guys before they just showed up. "North Florida" by map is about 5 minutes away. Typically about 100 pounds, 2 feet at the shoulder. Uhuh. (Btw, they're apparently "fast" on those wobbly little legs.)

That affectionate little guy grooming the dog clued me in right away to what I just read -- they live in groups. They're also good-natured herbivores and get along with most animals. I don't believe the nonsense about crocodiles being included; we have alligators and I don't care to see them meet. But now if a family comes visiting I won't be running for my own life.




Tommy_Carcetti

(43,189 posts)
40. For some reasons, ducks love to flock to Capybaras.
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 06:46 PM
Aug 2016

This guy seems to be getting a nice, relaxing back massage.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
41. That's so sweet. We have ducks and other water birds.
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 07:42 PM
Aug 2016

Probably shouldn't wish for a family of capybaras, but I sure wouldn't be sad if one moved in. Would apparently get along fine with the Sandhill cranes that raise their current crop of babies around our place most years.

Warpy

(111,305 posts)
28. They are definitely cute animals, love the whiskers
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 04:37 PM
Aug 2016

and the hopping gait.

So far, Florida isn't really sure they're a problem. Apparently, destabilizing levees, earthen dams and stream banks with burrows is the biggest worry around them, although it hasn't been demonstrated as yet. They eat aquatic plants and if they demonstrate a fondness for water hyacinth (another invasive species), they'll be a beneficial introduction.

I understand the meat is good should they become a problem, overpopulating in the future. Their hides are also useful. For now, they're a hell of a cute animal that doesn't seem to be bothering anyone.

Pythons and monitor lizards are completely different. They're predators that are harming the environment.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
2. Northern Germany has a wild colony of south-american rheas.
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 10:15 AM
Aug 2016

Six originally escaped from a farm in 2000. By 2015 the flock had grown to 177 animals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_rhea

Beach Rat

(273 posts)
4. There's something wrong with this article!
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 11:36 AM
Aug 2016

I though Florida was already home to the world's larges rodent!

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,189 posts)
5. My kid loves her guinea pigs.
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 11:38 AM
Aug 2016

I think she would freak out in delight if she saw a capy walking around her backyard.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
7. So they are legal in Texas and Pennsylvania but other states you would have to check
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 11:45 AM
Aug 2016

From $1000- $3000 it looks like

Just like Guinea pigs they need friends, So you would have to have at least two. If you are ever in a pet store and see a guinea pig in a cage by itself they are always so sad.

http://capybarafacts.com/capybara-as-pets/

https://www.exoticanimalsforsale.net/capybara-for-sale.asp

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
8. Send in the Nutria Patrol
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 12:17 PM
Aug 2016

In New Orleans the Jefferson Parish Sheriffs Office used to drive around and plug the nutria late at night along the many canals and levees.

The Capybara are just bigger.

nolabear

(41,990 posts)
9. I once rescued a dog from a nutria leg trap. I hope those days are gone.
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 12:20 PM
Aug 2016

Invasive species are a real problem sometimes. Feral pigs are among the worst. but out in NO East those nutria are serious business!

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
10. Didn't even know what a Nutria was, apparently according to at least one chef they are good cooking!
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 12:27 PM
Aug 2016

I would post the video of it being prepared but some poster would probably get "offended" by seeing "meat"

Anyway, on YouTube check out "EDIBLE INVASIVE SPECIES: NUTRIA"

nolabear

(41,990 posts)
11. I once tried on a nutria fur jacket and it was gorgeous.
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 01:02 PM
Aug 2016

I don't do fur but don't hate people who do. The whole rat thing does put me off though, both on the table and on my back.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
12. I'm certain your reluctance to post the video was simply to avoid offense
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 01:06 PM
Aug 2016

I'm quite certain your reluctance to post the video was simply to avoid offense rather than an irrelevant opportunity to maintain the pretense of oppression from and trivialize any animal rights groups present, as you appear to consistently avoid even the slightest offense with a most studious eagerness.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
17. No, it was to avoid a hidden post LOL
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 01:23 PM
Aug 2016

Did you ever answer why you repeat yourself from your subject line into the body of the post? I am SO glad people at my work don't do that with email.

yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)
18. I was stationed in New Orleans when I was in the Coast Guard,
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 01:24 PM
Aug 2016

the Cajuns would have their Pirogues full of dead Nutria, they would eat them.



One day, while sitting on his porch, Jean-Claude saw his friend, Pierre , paddling his pirogue down the bayou:

"Hey Pierre, whachoo got deah?"

"Duck-tape!"
Pierre shouted back.

"What you gon' do with dat duck-tape?"
asked Jean-claude.

"I'm gonna catch me some ducks!"

Jean-Claude of course thought Pierre was crazy and watched Pierre continue out into the bayou.

Not long after, Pierre returned with three plump ducks in his pirogue.

The next day Jean-Claude saw Pierre again, paddling down the bayou.

"Hey Pierre! Whachoo got deah?" shouted Jean-Claude.

"Nutra-Sweet!"

"Wachoo 'gon do wit alla dat Nutra-Sweet?"

"I'm gon git me a nutria."

Jean-Claude was incredulous, but interested this time.

"You crazy, you can't catch no nutria wit no Nutra-sweet!

Pierre ignored him and continued out into the bayou.

Jean-Claude was speechless when Pierre returned with a fat nutria in his pirogue.

The next day Jean-Claude again spied Pierre paddling out into the bayou in his pirogue.

"Heyy Pierre! Whatchoo got in deah?"

"Pussywillow!" Pierre shouted back.

"HOLD ON, LEMME GET MY HAT!"

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
31. Capybara are considered good food, with 1.5% fat content. Some Venezuelans farm-raise
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 04:53 PM
Aug 2016

them as a far less expensive alternative to non-native cattle. Others wish to export the meat. Allegedly, the hide makes a superior leather.

3catwoman3

(24,024 posts)
16. My now 26 yr old...
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 01:23 PM
Aug 2016

...older son did a report on capybaras, somewhere around 3rd grade. We were quite fascinated to learn that the Catholic church allowed the eating of cabybara meat on Fridays, with the rationale that, because it was essentially aquatic, it could be defined as a fish.

Bit of a stretch, if you ask me.

Tho one in the video obviously wants to play.

Warpy

(111,305 posts)
29. The original justification for eating fish on fast days
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 04:43 PM
Aug 2016

was that fish didn't bleed, something anyone who has ever caught and cleaned a bunch of fish knows to be pure hooey. Queen Elizabeth I persuaded the church to increase the number of fast days per week because she needed trained sailors and didn't want to pay for their training. A huge market for salted and smoked fish would supply her with all the fishermen/sailors she could possibly ever need. It worked.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
23. Floridians still haven't learned the lessons of invasive species...
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 03:29 PM
Aug 2016

Are they really that ignorant? Or do they just not give a shit?

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
36. It's not my state that has the capybara problem
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 05:07 PM
Aug 2016

so leave me out of it...

Although I do hope you as quick to defend the great Commonwealth of Virginia the next time we're in the news for the wrong reasons...

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
38. You are the one who felt the urge to insult millions here who had nothing to do with the problem -
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 05:11 PM
Aug 2016

JCMach1

(27,562 posts)
33. Invasive species are a world-wide problem... there are too many pet owners
Tue Aug 23, 2016, 04:55 PM
Aug 2016

opting for exotics that belong in the wild... not someone's home.

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