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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIt's over!
Now it was basically over in 1996 & 2008 at this time. But this year is different. I worked from home today and had CNN on. Jake Tapper is basically sneering when he mentions Trumps name. CNN and MSNBC have Republicans on (Bush supporters) that are ripping into Trump. Trump has crossed the line, he is now officially a joke, with people that would defend him if given any potential out. (a realistic shot of keeping this election close)
Now comes the hard part. Obama has provided Clinton and the Dems a great opportunity. Going on the offensive against Trump and tying Trump around the neck of all other elected Republicans. The smart ones will be hitting the airwaves this week and ripping Trump a new one. (Like the Republicans on today, looking out for themselves) Here is the thing, the Republicans aren't that fucking smart. The ones in safe red states can continue on with the B.S. talking points, but there are very few safe Red States, and even fewer highly populated Red States. We are basically down to Texas, Arizona, and Georgia, and if things keep imploding two of those may fall this cycle.
The bigger problem is the under 35 vote. They are getting CRUSHED, and take no offense HRC supporters, but she is not the coolest candidate for the under 35 crowd. Next cycle it is the under 40 crowd! Now the numbers for Obama in '08 for under 25 voters was higher than Reagan got in '80. And the Dems are continuing to expand the voters in a key demographic. Add non whites to the mix and it is game over.
Now the Republicans could do the smart thing and start reaching out instead of doubling down on the HS educated white vote. But as stated earlier, they just ain't that fucking smart. My bet is in 2020 they will run the same type of candidate and get crushed AGAIN.
As an aside, the Bush supporter made a very interesting point, that we must always remember. It is not like the mainstream Republican could have made a minor tweak and won over Primary voters this year. Bush/Kasich/Christy/Rubio only got about 1/3 of the vote combined. The fight was Trump v Cruz. Which means a Walker, Ryan, or any other puke inducing Republican that would likely lose but at least be competitive, wouldn't even have a chance of making it out of the Primaries.
chillfactor
(7,584 posts)thank you so very much...easy to read, very succinct.
dubyadiprecession
(5,725 posts)This time, they're in the fast lane, but driving into oncoming traffic!
jcgoldie
(11,655 posts)They were going to broaden the tent and bring in more Hispanics. Then they pick the guy who announces his campaign by talking about building a damn ridiculous wall that everyone knows will never happen.
MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)brooklynite
(94,792 posts)The PARTY could have bumped off Trump and then opened the race to one of the other (likely Bush/Cruz/Rubio). But, as INDIVIDUALS, it was in nobody's interest to take the shot, risking blowback from negative campaigning and letting the benefit accrue to another candidate.
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)The "Party" and the "Sane" Republicans can always do the right thing. Funding the Gov't, denouncing Birtherism, replacing Trump. But they are spineless, afraid of the base.
So now the spineless boys get Trump tied around their neck, and every Dem should be exploiting the weakness in campaign ads. The person running against McCain did a decent job, someone really needs to be much more direct. That is, call them out for being wimps and NOT standing up to the bully. Exploit the male ego, most are going to stick with the bully, but enough can be embarrassed into not voting.
And yes, I have no problem with trying to attempt to suppress turnout on their side.
Old and In the Way
(37,540 posts)It's been a long time comin', but they are in charge of electing their candidates. One needs only to look at who their "A" team is in Congress...Gohmert, Gowdy, Issa, King, Cruz...the list goes on. None of these jokers can legislate, all they
do is throw bombs. The farm team in the minors (state and local pols) are even worse.
When I was growing up, there were liberals, moderates, and conservatives in both Parties and the battles on legislation were won on coalition politics. The Republicans have purged their saner voices and all they have are a collection of like-minded moon barkers who are incapable of doing doing their job of governing.
bucolic_frolic
(43,364 posts)They become convinced of their own invincibility, of the righteousness
of their ideology.
They have never believed anything else. That HRC is echoing the
Progressive Era is like an alien thought to them.
Beartracks
(12,821 posts)No complacence!
No surrender!
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rufus dog
(8,419 posts)He will be in absolutely meltdown mode at the end. And his tirades will motivate Dems to get out and vote.