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http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/trump-campaign-meltdown-paul-manafort-a-paid-russian-agent-roger-stone-attacks-corey-lewandowski/25660/By Daily News Bin |
August 14, 2016
In the hours since the New York Times uncovered millions of dollars in illegal secret cash payments made from a Vladimir Putin puppet to Donald Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort, all hell has broken loose within the Trump campaign and much of it is playing out in public for all to see. One of Trumps top surrogates is publicly gloating over Manaforts criminal connections, while another top Trump surrogate is publicly accusing a fellow Trump surrogate of working for Hillary Clinton.
The Trump campaign meltdown began late Sunday evening when the NY Times published the story exposing Manaforts millions of dollars in hidden illegal payments from Vladimir Putin lackey Viktor Yanukovych. Corey Lewandowski, who had been Trumps campaign manager until he was fired this spring and replaced with Manafort, tweeted out a link to the article as if to gloat about the fact that his replacement is being taken down by a corruption scandal.
Even as Corey Lewandowski was enjoying his revenge, another Trump surrogate Roger Stone got wind of it and fired back by claiming that Lewandowski was now working for Hillary Clinton by way of calling him a traitor. Lewandowski actually works as a commentator on CNN now, and its not clear what his on-air approach will be to the Manafort story, as CNN wasnt broadcasting live news on Sunday evening while the drama was exploding.
Meanwhile Donald Trump himself has had nothing to say about the matter, but he now has several problems. Theres the fact that he may have to fire Paul Manafort due to his illegal financial connections to Russias Putin. Theres the fact that Corey Lewandowski appears to be so excited by the downfall of Manafort hes no longer remaining loyal to Trump. And theres the fact that Roger Stone is now publicly attacking Lewandowski. It all leads to the question of just who might be running Donald Trumps campaign by the time the smoke clears tomorrow if there is indeed anything left of his already dying campaign to salvage.
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Oh yes, oh yes. These slimeballs are turning on each other and being exposed for the people they really are. Let the circular firing squad commence!
Doing the happy happy dance.
msongs
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Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)Accepting money from foreign powers, to finance a presidential election is against the law! Comey tried Clinton in the media! By announcing an ongoing FBI investigation of a national political figure, Comey set aside important protocol. Most local police spokespeople refuse to make statements, to the press - especially about suspects - in ongoing criminal investigations.
StrictlyRockers
(3,855 posts)...the FBI would be holding a press conference announcing within days that they are starting an investigation into this.
Or, we will know that Comey only ignores FBI protocol when it suits him or when the political winds blow his sails in a certain direction.
#ImWithHer
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)which show that she TOLD THEM the TRUTH. msnbc and cnn are salivating over the release, though
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)StrictlyRockers
(3,855 posts)Why do they do this EVERY SINGLE TIME?
I have no answer for you.
canetoad
(17,167 posts)They didn't actually blame it on Hillary, just said Lewandowsky was working for her.
That comment seems to confirm that it's all true, true, true.
DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)Eastern Europe with the former Mrs. Rupert Murdoch who also happens to currently be Putin's girlfriend.
http://www.people.com/article/ivanka-trump-wendi-deng-murdoch-croatia
Did she give Ivanka illegal donations? Copies of hacked emails?
We are supposed to think that Ivanka is on vacation but it is the middle of a campaign so I am sure she is actually working.
Make Russia Great Again?
So fucking shady. This whole thing is unreal...
SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)Trump, 34, was spotted with husband Jared Kushner in the city's old town, seemingly taking a couple's vacation without their three children Arabella, 5, Joseph, 2, and Theodore, 4 months.
I couldn't IMAGINE leaving my son for more than 8 hours when he was 4 months old--he was still breastfeeding. And she also has a 5 year old and a 2 year old. I just couldn't do that. And why Croatia of all places?
StrictlyRockers
(3,855 posts)Abandon your infant to go on vacation in Europe.
anoNY42
(670 posts)Because Croatia has some world-class seaside towns, that's why!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubrovnik
SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)Like I said, she has three small children. I can't imagine leaving them to go traipsing around the Adriatic all the way on the other side of the world.
anoNY42
(670 posts)I just wanted to point out that Croatia has some really nice tourist areas on the coast. A lot like Greece, really.
SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)Back before it broke up into Croatia, Montenegro, etc. And yes, it is gorgeous.
Cheviteau
(383 posts)...for the use of the word traipsing. One of my dear old sainted mother's favorites.
Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)...this time of year.
SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)Moonwalk
(2,322 posts):eyes;
SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)They're not leaving the Adriatic even if Russian tourists return to Turkish beaches.
Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)...which is as alarming as they're buying up the Adriatic.
SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)Turkey has a history of committing horrible atrocities against slavs.
thucythucy
(8,069 posts)It's a truly beautiful country. The Adriatic coast (which is where they are) is especially scenic. Great beaches, great architecture, great food, and generally very friendly people. I'm hoping to go back sometime.
SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)Many are a lot closer to home. It just seems like an odd, tone deaf choice, particularly with the firestorm over Trump's/Manafort's Putin connections.
Last time I travelled along the Dalmatian coast, the locals were rankled by the fact that Russians have bought up some of the nicest resorts along the Southern Adriatic. They feared it will become the "Russian Riviera."
Why leave three very small children to travel to the other side of the globe to an area that raises these issues? Was Manafort their travel agent?
MADem
(135,425 posts)I know she made a play for Tony BLAIR a while back....but Pootie???
What happened to the torch bearing gymnast from Sochi who had the Pootie baby, supposedly...?
splat
(2,294 posts)It was probably just a fling. Sounds like he dumped her in this July 25 Daily Mail story (echoed by People):
An insider close to the Russian leader, who divorced his wife in 2013, said the relationship between the two had become 'serious,'US Weekly reported.
But the 47-year-old businesswoman ridiculed the rumors, telling Vogue she 'never even met Putin'.
'But wow, so much press about it,' she laughed. 'Why did they choose me?''
'I've never even MET Putin': Wendi Murdoch hits back at rumors she is dating Russian president
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,123 posts)I can't recall the last time I had a conversation with her that didn't conclude with her connecting me to four people who might become great friends or great business opportunities."
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,004 posts)LuvLoogie
(7,011 posts)Trump cuts deal. Ivanka for political asylum.
Granny M
(1,395 posts)sarae
(3,284 posts)ecstatic
(32,707 posts)StrictlyRockers
(3,855 posts)"Wouldn't it be great if we could get along with Russia? Wouldn't that be a good thing?"
I've heard him say this at least a dozen times.
Smells like conflict of interest.
Volaris
(10,272 posts)He's going to HAVE to call for a removal vote if Trump doesn't have Manaforts head to deliver up tomorrow. It's the only way they salvage the House now. Probably the Senate is lost to them already anyway. So it's down to this: get TehDonald to publicly humiliate his own campaign (which won't happen) or enrage the base to such an extent that the establishment GOP won't be able to bribe their way to a national win for another 20 years.
Perhaps we should all kick into the kitty to send Mr Prebius a very expensive bottle of scotch for all the fine work he's done for the Democratic Party this year...I have a feeling he's going to need it now =)
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)Is that a legitimate thing?
And wouldn't that alienate and betray ~40% of the Republican Party?
Volaris
(10,272 posts)They put it in the platform rules this year in case a nominee dies, or quits or...whatever.
That's exactly what it would do.
enid602
(8,620 posts)But if they drop Trump, does Pence automatically become the candidate, or would it go to Cruz? Would the RNC have to reconvene to select a candidate. I would think that if HRC were god forbid incapacitated, Bernie might have a better claim to the candidacy than Kaine.
Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)...the RNC would vote and and pick someone new, probably Ryan. But don't be so sure this is the end of the Donald. If he hangs in there for two more weeks, he's the candidate on a lot of state ballots no matter what the RNC decides. Like Florida which doesn't allow any kind of change come September 1st.
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)Than they already are!
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)Yallow
(1,926 posts)Will be #1 story tomorrow.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/14/ledgers-in-ukraine-show-cash-listed-for-trumps-campaign-chief-manafort-from-yanukovychs-party-nyt.html
It just keeps getting better.
And to think, it is not a dumbass donald mistake this time.
tblue37
(65,403 posts)RNC pressure.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Of course Trumps loyal followers won't be bothered..
LANDSLIDE ALERT
StrictlyRockers
(3,855 posts)I'm allowed to fantasize, aren't I?
#ElectionPorn
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)You never know!
okasha
(11,573 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Hekate
(90,714 posts)Takket
(21,575 posts)Putin is running his entire campaign and we are supposed to vote for this guy? A vote for trump is a vote for Putin. There is your new campaign ad, Hillary!
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)I want a bumper sticker with that in Russian asap
MirrorAshes
(1,262 posts)Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)iPad near death, so no pasting from text......enjoy yourselves
also:
https://www.google.com/search?q=manafort+money+russia&client=safari&hl=en-us&prmd=nvi&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiChMqN4MLOAhWEJx4KHV9WC5MQ_AUIBygB&biw=768&bih=927
StrictlyRockers
(3,855 posts)<...>
Asked about charges by Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook that Russian state actors hacked the DNC in order to help Trump, who has made sympathetic comments about Russian President Vladimir Putin, Manafort on Sunday dismissed the charges in multiple television interviews as absurd and crazy. The claims are pure obfuscation on the part of the Clinton campaign, Manafort said on ABCs This Week. What they dont want to talk about is whats in those emails.
In mid-June, Democratic Party suspicions about the hackers seemed to be confirmed when CrowdStrike, an outside security firm retained by the DNC, reported that it traced the hackers to two separate units linked to Russias security services: the FSB, Russias equivalent of the FBI, and GRU, the countrys military intelligence agency. The company noted strong similarities between the attack on the DNC by the suspected GRU hackers and previous cyberintrusions of unclassified systems at the White House, the State Department and the offices of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. (After discovering the data breach, a DNC security source said its cyberexperts noted that the hackers exfiltration of files took place 9 to 5, Moscow time.) An FBI official confirmed that the bureau has been investigating the breach for some time, and, according to one source familiar with the matter, Director James Comey has been personally briefed.
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There are also signs that the Obama administration is taking the matter more seriously. The Washington Post reported Monday that White House officials convened a high-level security meeting last Thursday, hours before WikiLeaks began posting the emails, to review information about the DNC attack. Party officials are privately pushing the White House to publicly blame the Russians in the same way it blamed North Korea for the cyberattack on Sony and China for intrusions into U.S. companies. The last time somebody broke into the DNC, it led to the resignation of a president, said the Democratic Party security source, referring to the Watergate scandal. In some ways, the source insisted, the current cyberheist what some in party circles are already calling a 21st century Watergate is even more sinister, the source said. This is the Russians screwing with the integrity of our election process.
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Manafort's response? You guessed it - "But, but, but Hillary's emails!!!"
And Trump has been encouraging this kind of thing in his campaign speeches. I mean...this is just incredible. This is going to blow up BIG LEAGUE! This is undeniable corruption. This is going to be the story for the whole week! At least!!
jmowreader
(50,559 posts)Unlike the US, which divides its intelligence apparatus up by function - foreign intelligence (CIA), signals intelligence and signals security (NSA), counterintelligence (FBI), satellite intelligence (National Reconnaissance Office) - the Russians, and the Soviets before them, divide their apparatus into civilian intelligence (Soviet KGB, Russian FSB) and military intelligence (GRU). So instead of Trump being beholden to the Russian version of FBI, he's beholden to the Russian version of CIA. Yes, I know they're the same agency but saying Trump is a "Russian CIA plant" sounds more ominous than saying he's a "Russian FBI plant."
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)The only thing they could possibly need a Russian like Putin for is as a patsy so they don't get blamed for the crime this time. Nixon couldn't just pin Watergate on the Russians because real people got caught, not just the spyware. In fact, the new Manafort "revelations" play into blaming Russia instead of the Republicans.
I smell Republicans!
jmowreader
(50,559 posts)You realize this shit's going to be bad if President Clinton's first words as president are, "Marshals, hold that man." I realize the word "treason" is way overused, but accepting campaign funding from Russian Intelligence comes very, very close to it.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)And now we know they've been caught again and there is a mole leaking the data to prove it and hang them. Think about it, the leaker is exposing the hacker, ergo the hacker is known, outed, and completely screwed. We just don't know the details yet.
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)Getting my popcorn and wine ready. Sweet dreams indeed tonight....
groundloop
(11,519 posts)Where have we read that playbook before?
While this entire scandal sounds very juicy, I just can't get it out of my head that it's somehow too good to be true. It would certainly be a black eye to a lot of the press if this story were fake, and wouldn't hurt DonTheCon either.
canetoad
(17,167 posts)Thank you, well said.
Koinos
(2,792 posts)The New York Times and other sources have revealed all sorts of other evidence. This isn't a matter of a single piece of paper.
Matthew Rose
(66 posts)aeroman
(64 posts)Before September 1st it will be easier for GOP to get Trump replaced on ticket and ballots after September 1st not so much.
lamp_shade
(14,836 posts)Stinky The Clown
(67,808 posts)joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)about his campaign imploding
Mark Halperin very gloomily states that, while trump will get more electoral votes than the times, he's making a mistake running against them.
he then grudgingly says that the story has 'pretty good journalism' in it
lindysalsagal
(20,692 posts)But if the major new outlets have proof, he just got is out from the presidential race: I wonder if the summer vaca was ok's by fRump so he'd have an escape plan. The timing would be perfect.
The RNC will NEVER live this down.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)guises, as the manafort scandal
I wish I'd been keeping time, but I'm guessing they've spent more time on Hillary than PM so far today. it's going to be interesting to see if they decide this story deserves to be expanded upon. one never knows. lewandowski was going ape over it this morning with chris Cuomo, and he was pretty much let off the hook.
as I type this msnbc is touting the "Clinton campaign braces for release of FBI interview notes" under the heading "Clinton Email scandal"
not kidding....it's still on, minus the ''email scandal'' heading, but that's how they started it
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)napkinz
(17,199 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)Forget the Trump Train. It's a veritable Trump Pirate Ship over there.
Gothmog
(145,310 posts)Trump's pretend campaign is now falling apart
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)More of team Trump is on Russia's payroll than just Paul.
StrictlyRockers
(3,855 posts)By James Hohmann
August 15 at 8:40 AM
Handwritten ledgers show $12.7 million in undisclosed cash payments designated for Mr. Manafort from (Viktor) Yanukovychs pro-Russian political party from 2007 to 2012, according to Ukraines newly formed National Anti-Corruption Bureau. Investigators assert that the disbursements were part of an illegal off-the-books system whose recipients also included election officials, Andrew E. Kramer, Mike McIntire and Barry Meier report from Kiev. In addition, criminal prosecutors are investigating a group of offshore shell companies that helped members of Mr. Yanukovychs inner circle finance their lavish lifestyles Among the hundreds of murky transactions these companies engaged in was an $18 million deal to sell Ukrainian cable television assets to a partnership put together by Mr. Manafort and a Russian oligarch, Oleg Deripaska, a close ally of President Vladimir V. Putin.
Before he fled to Russia two years ago, Mr. Yanukovych and his Party of Regions relied heavily on the advice of Mr. Manafort and his firm, who helped them win several elections, the story notes. During that period, Mr. Manafort never registered as a foreign agent with the United States Justice Department as required of those seeking to influence American policy on behalf of foreign clients although one of his subcontractors did.
In the 400-page ledger kept at party headquarters, inside a room which contained two safes full of $100 bills, Manaforts name appeared 22 times over five years, according to Ukraines National Anti-Corruption Bureau, which obtained the document and has an evidence-sharing agreement with the FBI. The Times says the purpose of the payments is not specified. Manafort lawyer Richard Hibey said his client never received the cash in question and did nothing illegal or corrupt.
An editor at Fusion, the site owned by Univision, teased that more damaging stories will come soon:
Adam Weinstein ✔ @AdamWeinstein
Speaking as someone who has a story coming this week: This is just the beginning for Manafort. It gets worse.
6:11 PM - 14 Aug 2016