ISIS existed before Obama's presidency-replacing al Qaeda in Iraq in Oct '06-during Bush Presidency

[kpete]

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The Islamic State existed before Obama's presidency, replacing al Qaeda in Iraq in October of 2006, during the presidency of George W. Bush




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In fact, the early days of ISIS (or ISIL as it is also known) are somewhat murky and though the mysterious al-Baghdadi was an early leader of the group that eventually become the Islamic State, there was another al-Baghdadi, Abu Omar al-Baghdadi, who, if he really existed, preceded him.

Another claim often made by conservatives is that al-Baghdadi was in US captivity in 2009 and was released by Obama to found ISIS in 2010.

Of course, it was during Bush’s presidency that al-Baghdadi was a ‘civilian internee’ held by U.S. Forces-Iraq at Camp Bucca from early February 2004 until early December 2004, when he was handed over to the Iraqis. It was the Iraqis, not the Americans, and certainly not Obama, who freed him.

That’s only four years before Obama was elected, which you could at least say is better than the seven years between 9/11 and Obama’s election.

The key fact is that while it has had many names and many leaders, who founded it is less important than when it was founded: the Islamic State existed before Obama became president, coming into being in October of 2006 in place of its predecessor, al Qaeda in Iraq.

MORE:
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/08/11/cnns-john-berman-explains-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-founder-isis-obama.html
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/11/who-founded-isis-abu-musb-al-zarqawi-started-the-terror-group.html?%3Fsource=Twitter






https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/763726778456272896
https://twitter.com/HallieJackson/status/763726772278099968

[napkinz]

1. George W. Bush, Father of ISIS

Former head of US special forces admits: Islamic State would not exist if Bush didn’t invade Iraq

Retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn told the German newspaper Der Spiegel that Americans allowed their anger of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks to lead them into disastrous military policies that failed to address the root causes of terrorism — and actually helped create new and more brutal terrorists.


http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/former-head-of-us-special-forces-admits-islamic-state-would-not-exist-if-bush-didnt-invade-iraq/

[jpak]

2. They honor Bush, they honor him

yup

[GummyBearz]

3. 15 years ago I co-founded a ski club in high school

15 years later I later heard they won some kind of competition. I didn't get any credit for it..

[The2ndWheel]

4. But the ideology existed before that

And was the result of something else that someone else did, which existed before that, which existed before that, which existed before that. Billy Joel was right.

To lay it on Bush's lap is as simplistic as laying it on Obama's lap. If it wasn't war in Iraq, it was supporting a dictator in Iraq. Iraq was never an organic country to begin with, which is why we support dictators.

We're prisoners of history, and that's why there's never an easy answer to any of these questions.

[Javaman]

5. I blame Paul Bremmer, that colossal moron, for disbanding the Iraqi Army.

that single act of incredible stupidity is wholly responsible for all the problems in that region today.

[tonyt53]

7. That guy was right in the middle of it all.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

8. I can never remember Bremer's name when I need it. And I bet he likes it like that.

"The Viceroy" of Iraq.

[tonyt53]

6. I do business outside of the US. The facts mentioned are widely accepted outside of the US.

Outside of the US. most find it incredible for the people of the US to think Obama had anything to do with the creation of ISIS.

[liberal N proud]

9. Both the media and Trump supporters have extremely short memories and are too lazy to look it up

Facts don't incite crowds, rhetoric does.

[malaise]

10. Don the Con is a fugging lunatic

Earlier he blamed Bush for ISIS