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lindysalsagal

(20,692 posts)
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 11:55 PM Aug 2016

I burst into tears in a museum today: Never stood next to a KKK hood and gown before.

I said to myself, as I turned around and recognised it under glass, "I've never been in the presence of such evil and hatred before." My blood literally ran cold, I pictured the thousands of lynchings, and I lost it.

Part of it was the surprise: This was a small room of black history memorabilia, and the rest of it was photos, paintings, sculptures, and other arsty stuff. I wasn't anticipating this symbol of murder, hatred and in humanity. It was inside a case on the back side of a wide pillar. I turned around and was face to face with it.

It had stains. It had been worn. No way of knowing if the owners had killed or harmed an innocent victim in it.

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I burst into tears in a museum today: Never stood next to a KKK hood and gown before. (Original Post) lindysalsagal Aug 2016 OP
First time I saw one was in college TlalocW Aug 2016 #1
Definitely take tissue if you ever go to the Smithsonian African American Museum in DC. SunSeeker Aug 2016 #2
Should I ever go to DC I will awoke_in_2003 Aug 2016 #9
Yes, amazing that it took so long for us to build such a national museum. SunSeeker Aug 2016 #12
I learned about the Holocaust from a survivor awoke_in_2003 Aug 2016 #13
An ocean away, or decades ago, the punch should be the same. Behind the Aegis Aug 2016 #14
I am not being "dismissive" of evils committed by others. SunSeeker Aug 2016 #15
I was responding to your remark. Behind the Aegis Aug 2016 #16
Wow. I can't imagine anyone saying that to you. SunSeeker Aug 2016 #17
I apprecaite it. Behind the Aegis Aug 2016 #18
I can empathize. I saw a Klan rally as a kid from a distance from my grandparent porch Hoyt Aug 2016 #3
Wow. Your grandmother was incredibly brave. SunSeeker Aug 2016 #5
My family moved to Alabama in 76 awoke_in_2003 Aug 2016 #10
Sorry for the tears, but you are stronger now than ever before. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2016 #4
I have. Behind the Aegis Aug 2016 #6
Wow. nt awoke_in_2003 Aug 2016 #11
my one and only time cvoogt Aug 2016 #7
Unless it is October 31st, any activity that 3catwoman3 Aug 2016 #8
So hard to believe that a 2016 presidential candidate is willing to dredge this up just to win lindysalsagal Aug 2016 #19
The republican party now owns this Abouttime Aug 2016 #20
and even sadder, they're proud of it. No remorse or guilt about their bigotry. lindysalsagal Aug 2016 #21

TlalocW

(15,384 posts)
1. First time I saw one was in college
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 12:16 AM
Aug 2016

An American history teacher whose class I took had one from the 30s/40s from my undergrad's general area, and he would bring it to class when learning about civil rights.

I don't know if it was due to age, but it wasn't pure white and had a lot of patches/badges on it so it belonged to someone important in the local Klan.

TlalocW

SunSeeker

(51,574 posts)
2. Definitely take tissue if you ever go to the Smithsonian African American Museum in DC.
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 12:18 AM
Aug 2016

It will have an actual guard tower from Angola prison (basically a concentration camp for African American men), an actual segregated Pullman railroad car, a slave cabin...it will be massive and it opens September 24, 2016.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/museums/a-first-look-inside-the-smithsonians-african-american-museum-stunning-views-grand-scale/2016/05/10/80ac784e-160e-11e6-9e16-2e5a123aac62_story.html

SunSeeker

(51,574 posts)
12. Yes, amazing that it took so long for us to build such a national museum.
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 03:04 AM
Aug 2016

I remember being in DC in 2001 and I hit all the museums on the National Mall. The Holocaust Museum affected me the most. I'll never forget the pile of shoes--an actual pile of shoes found in one of the death camps, accumulated as people were stripped of them as they entered the ovens. Such evil.

And then it dawned on me that we had no museum on the Mall documenting the evil that African Americans were subjected to. Finally, in 2016, we will have one. And I am sure it will be a gut punch even more than the Holocaust Museum...this was evil Americans did, not some European power an ocean away.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
13. I learned about the Holocaust from a survivor
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 03:41 AM
Aug 2016

It was my grandmother's boss. I asked him what the numbers on his arm meant. He taught me, but I never, before or since, experienced such sadness.

Behind the Aegis

(53,961 posts)
14. An ocean away, or decades ago, the punch should be the same.
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 04:10 AM
Aug 2016

It is easy to be dismissive of "evils" committed by others or find reasons why it isn't as impactful as other "evils", but it can lead to lack of empathy. The evils may be different, but the effect is still as real and lasting.

SunSeeker

(51,574 posts)
15. I am not being "dismissive" of evils committed by others.
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 04:22 AM
Aug 2016

Of course they are just as real.

The point I was making is that you are struck by the horror of the evil itself, as well as the horror that your fellow Americans did it in the country you love. Kind of like the double horror of finding out your own child killed someone.

Behind the Aegis

(53,961 posts)
16. I was responding to your remark.
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 04:35 AM
Aug 2016

"...this was evil Americans did, not some European power an ocean away"

While it may not have meant to be dismissive, it was seemingly comparative in a way that made it seem it wasn't as "impactful". As someone who has heard "get over it!" and "oh, a Jew playing the "Holocaust card", how original.", it upset me.

ETA: I saw your update. I understand what you are saying now, but it still was uncomfortable for me. My issue.

Behind the Aegis

(53,961 posts)
18. I apprecaite it.
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 04:49 AM
Aug 2016

I also appreciate your clarifying your comment. Hopefully, you can also understand my reaction to it. The second comment wasn't made to me directly, but it was made here...at DU. And yes, that poster is still here.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. I can empathize. I saw a Klan rally as a kid from a distance from my grandparent porch
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 01:07 AM
Aug 2016

in rural Georgia. Didn't get significance of rural farmers dancing around a burning cross at that age other than fear, but I do now. I remember my grandmother taking food over to the Black farmily that lived across the dirt road the next day. The whole period and things that went on 50+ years ago, still haunt me. When I think of Howard Zinn's description of the way slaves were packed below decks in ships, I gasp for breath.

I applaud those who fought to change that hatred. Don't cry much, but I feel for those subjected to such hatred.

SunSeeker

(51,574 posts)
5. Wow. Your grandmother was incredibly brave.
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 01:52 AM
Aug 2016

The South would be a different place if there were more people like your grandparents.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,007 posts)
4. Sorry for the tears, but you are stronger now than ever before.
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 01:32 AM
Aug 2016

We move forward. Back a step or two sometimes, but the unstoppable trend is forward.

Together we are stronger.

Behind the Aegis

(53,961 posts)
6. I have.
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 01:58 AM
Aug 2016

I was 10, attending my cousin's baseball game. The Klan was there, in full regalia, handing out flyers about "race purity and the shifty lies of the Jew media". I stood their, mouth agape, as they handed me a flyer and invited me to a rally. My mother saw them approaching me, and after hiding her Star of David necklace, grabbed me and took me back to the stands. Oh yeah, I am Jewish.

cvoogt

(949 posts)
7. my one and only time
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 02:25 AM
Aug 2016

was during a MLK march in downtown Atlanta, ca. 1995. The Klan was there to counter-protest the MLK parade, in full kookoo regalia.

3catwoman3

(24,007 posts)
8. Unless it is October 31st, any activity that
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 02:33 AM
Aug 2016

...requires the wearing of strange costumes, and the hiding of your face while participating in it, is something that adults should not be doing.

lindysalsagal

(20,692 posts)
19. So hard to believe that a 2016 presidential candidate is willing to dredge this up just to win
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 08:36 AM
Aug 2016

Will we, as a nation, ever stop this bigotry?

 

Abouttime

(675 posts)
20. The republican party now owns this
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 09:22 AM
Aug 2016

The kkk is now a yoke around their neck, they are the party of the klan

lindysalsagal

(20,692 posts)
21. and even sadder, they're proud of it. No remorse or guilt about their bigotry.
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 09:29 AM
Aug 2016

The so-called religious party has no conscience.

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