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kentuck

(111,103 posts)
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 11:29 PM Aug 2016

Should the Democratic Party be the "anti-war" Party ?

It seems that we have been at war for so long that we just take it for granted as the norm?

Should that be an issue the candidates should discuss?

Personally, I have always been an anti-war Democrat.

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Should the Democratic Party be the "anti-war" Party ? (Original Post) kentuck Aug 2016 OP
If we are anti war in all cases, what happens during a genocide? La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2016 #1
in the case of Rwanda, nothing nt Angel Martin Aug 2016 #2
Yes, and what did we learn from not interfering ? La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2016 #3
I do not know your age... kentuck Aug 2016 #4
let's ask these guys: Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #5
That is too much of an absolute position upaloopa Aug 2016 #6
+1 Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2016 #20
Are you suggesting that the Democratic Party is "pro-war"? brooklynite Aug 2016 #7
YES!!! gopiscrap Aug 2016 #8
+1 CobaltBlue Aug 2016 #11
It should be, but too many neocon war hawks smell profits. n/t That Guy 888 Aug 2016 #9
Sometimes war is necessary. auntpurl Aug 2016 #10
Ouch. LWolf Aug 2016 #12
Right on! SalviaBlue Aug 2016 #15
Sometimes Military action is valid FLPanhandle Aug 2016 #13
But usually it's just blatant, self-serving aggression and violence, ronnie624 Aug 2016 #19
3,2,1, "The Pansey Party?" No, I don't think that will fly. lindysalsagal Aug 2016 #14
Yes. Iggo Aug 2016 #16
Of course! cpwm17 Aug 2016 #17
Of course we should, say some of the cats, heading off to do just that librechik Aug 2016 #18

kentuck

(111,103 posts)
4. I do not know your age...
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 12:05 AM
Aug 2016

But, how many times in your lifetime do you think we should have gone to war? Declared war?

And genocides usually happen during wars.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
6. That is too much of an absolute position
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 12:13 AM
Aug 2016

We should be against unjust wars and wars of opportunity.

Nothing is so black and white that we can pick one and ignore the other

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,414 posts)
20. +1
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 10:57 AM
Aug 2016

Such an absolutist position would have kept us out of Vietnam and Iraq 1 & 2 but also WW2, which I submit would be difficult to find people whom could make a compelling case for having stayed out of. We need to be smarter about our use of military power IMHO but I doubt that we can totally avoid situations that might necessitate some use of military muscle.

brooklynite

(94,598 posts)
7. Are you suggesting that the Democratic Party is "pro-war"?
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 12:39 AM
Aug 2016

And as an "anti-war Democrat", are you an isolationist, or are we just arguing about where the line is drawn?

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
10. Sometimes war is necessary.
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 05:03 AM
Aug 2016

It is not one of my big issues. There are many policies and positions I care about far more.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
12. Ouch.
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 10:09 AM
Aug 2016

Here's a prediction:

A crew of neo-liberal Democrats are going to show up and, in their patronizing way, explain why war is essential and why we are just too simple to get it.

For the record, if the Democratic Party wants to retain any semblance of relevance, it should BECOME the anti-war party. I don't think it ever has been that; perhaps, for awhile, less eager for war, but never "anti-war."

I am an anti-war human. And I think I'll put this here again for those ready to defend war.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
13. Sometimes Military action is valid
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 10:13 AM
Aug 2016

Especially the reasonable threat of military action. The Balkins wouldn't last long as independent states with Putin around without the threat of military action if he invaded.

A black/white position is great for bumper stickers or simple thinkers. The world is too complex for bumper sticker foreign policy.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
19. But usually it's just blatant, self-serving aggression and violence,
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 10:52 AM
Aug 2016

as in the cases of Iraq, Panama, Grenada, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Haiti, Philippines and many others.

And then there are all those covert/proxy wars that cause so many problems for so many people.

An examination of the historical record, strongly suggests that war is rarely "valid", and usually serves the interests of wealth and power.

lindysalsagal

(20,692 posts)
14. 3,2,1, "The Pansey Party?" No, I don't think that will fly.
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 10:13 AM
Aug 2016

It's too simplistic. But of course, we should be like the Star Trek federation and never instigate conflict.

We've been too guilty of heavy-handed machinations globally to get away with such an elementary school moniker.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
18. Of course we should, say some of the cats, heading off to do just that
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 10:51 AM
Aug 2016

All the other cats run away in many different directions to hide.

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