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Chicago marks deadliest day in 13 years with nine homicides on Monday (Original Post) former9thward Aug 2016 OP
amazing they have any rude boys left at this point maxsolomon Aug 2016 #1
The Rude Boys just keep coming back. "Gangs and Politicians in Chicago: Unholy Alliance." Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #12
It used to be such a great city sharp_stick Aug 2016 #2
I suspect as a tourist you never went to the places where this stuff is happening alcibiades_mystery Aug 2016 #3
+1 linuxman Aug 2016 #6
I spent the weekend in Chicago and was amazed! ecstatic Aug 2016 #17
The areas where this stuff is happening are so isolated alcibiades_mystery Aug 2016 #19
When do we tell the NRA enough is enough??? Initech Aug 2016 #4
How about after we deal with the people actually responsible? Dreamer Tatum Aug 2016 #5
That will be difficult. These gangs have real political power. And use it. Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #8
So in other words...leave the criminals alone davidn3600 Aug 2016 #10
No, those are YOUR words. The task of going after criminals will be difficult... Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #11
As soon as we establish that the NRA killed any of those people NashuaDW Aug 2016 #7
There will have to be serious prosecution, enough to where political toes will be stepped on. Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #9
But the NRA makes it easier to get guns in the hands of people who shouldn't have them, no? Initech Aug 2016 #14
Not seeing an NRA-managed gun shop in Chicago. Dreamer Tatum Aug 2016 #15
Yeah, remember when alcohol made Al Capone's gang shoot people with tommyguns? Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #20
Wait, this happened because the nra stopped Chicago from getting strict gun control? beevul Aug 2016 #16
No. I blame the NRA because thanks to their influence and way too much control of our government... Initech Aug 2016 #21
It still doesn't compute. beevul Aug 2016 #22
There are no illegal gun factories in the south and west sides of Chicago alcibiades_mystery Aug 2016 #13
Dreadful. Heartbreaking. Hortensis Aug 2016 #18

maxsolomon

(33,432 posts)
1. amazing they have any rude boys left at this point
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 04:18 PM
Aug 2016

whatever the city and community is trying, it ain't working.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
2. It used to be such a great city
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 04:20 PM
Aug 2016

Mind you I was only there as a tourist but it sure never seemed to be as outright insane there as it is now.

ecstatic

(32,753 posts)
17. I spent the weekend in Chicago and was amazed!
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 09:03 PM
Aug 2016

I didn't want to go but was pleasantly surprised that it wasn't the warzone that I expected. The architecture in downtown Chicago is absolutely amazing. The area I stayed in is probably 100 times safer than where I currently live. If I had the funds, I'd move there.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
19. The areas where this stuff is happening are so isolated
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 10:05 PM
Aug 2016

from most Chicagoans lives that it may as well be happening in another country. The idea that Chicago is some warzone is laughable.

That said, where these wars ARE going on, it IS a warzone, all the more so because it is happening in very small areas of the city.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
10. So in other words...leave the criminals alone
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 05:38 PM
Aug 2016

Just go after the weapons.

Im sure that's going to work.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
11. No, those are YOUR words. The task of going after criminals will be difficult...
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 05:43 PM
Aug 2016

Google: Gangs and Politicians in Chicago: Unholy Alliance.

Chicago has a history of this. You can't get elected until you sniff the skidmark of these gangs. Formally.

NashuaDW

(90 posts)
7. As soon as we establish that the NRA killed any of those people
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 05:29 PM
Aug 2016

It looks like all of the fatalities were on the south side of Chicago... Maybe that is where the problem lies.

How many of the shooters underwent a background check?
How many are already felons?
How many would be affected by any of the proposed new 'commonsense' gun laws?

The truth is that Chicago's south side has a drug and societal problem that can't be legislated away.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
15. Not seeing an NRA-managed gun shop in Chicago.
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 06:03 PM
Aug 2016

Do they go by a different name?

Chicago has this problem because Chicago tolerates this problem. You can eradicate the NRA and Chicago would still have this problem.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
20. Yeah, remember when alcohol made Al Capone's gang shoot people with tommyguns?
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 10:12 PM
Aug 2016

Oh, yeah, that wasn't alcohol that caused the gang violence, it was the prohibition of alcohol.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
16. Wait, this happened because the nra stopped Chicago from getting strict gun control?
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 08:44 PM
Aug 2016

Puh-leeze.

Initech

(100,112 posts)
21. No. I blame the NRA because thanks to their influence and way too much control of our government...
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 10:31 PM
Aug 2016

Our complete lack of gun control has made it incredibly easy for anyone to get a gun, and far more people who should not have guns do have guns. Shit even the CDC has declared this is an epidemic.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
22. It still doesn't compute.
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 02:19 AM
Aug 2016
No. I blame the NRA because thanks to their influence and way too much control of our government...Our complete lack of gun control has made it incredibly easy for anyone to get a gun, and far more people who should not have guns do have guns. Shit even the CDC has declared this is an epidemic.


Now that you've explained it, it makes even less sense.

What "gun control" are you referring to that we need, but don't already have, particularly as it applies to Chicago?



 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
13. There are no illegal gun factories in the south and west sides of Chicago
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 05:47 PM
Aug 2016

Just information. All these guns started legal.

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