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Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 06:17 PM Aug 2016

Help Us Diagram This Sentence by Donald Trump!

Help Us Diagram This Sentence by Donald Trump!
Look, having nuclear—my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart—you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world—it’s true!—but when you're a conservative Republican they try—oh, do they do a number—that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune—you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged—but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me—it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are (nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right—who would have thought?), but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners—now it used to be three, now it’s four—but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years—but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us.

I do not think I have ever seen a worse case of word soup.
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Help Us Diagram This Sentence by Donald Trump! (Original Post) Agnosticsherbet Aug 2016 OP
Makes our heads hurt! misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #1
Makes Palin speeches seem well reasoned and articulate emulatorloo Aug 2016 #2
He is related to those good genes! He has good genes! apcalc Aug 2016 #3
I'd say they run (red)neck and (red)neck... flor-de-jasmim Aug 2016 #4
What is any of it about? Agnosticsherbet Aug 2016 #5
I've never seen fractured, run on, complex, compound sentence structure like that. Rex Aug 2016 #6
He is the dunce in a class of his own. Agnosticsherbet Aug 2016 #7
It is like all his words bottleneck at his food hole. Rex Aug 2016 #10
Hah! apcalc Aug 2016 #15
Because it's not a sentence. Igel Aug 2016 #21
I wonder if his mind works that way. Rex Aug 2016 #25
I have, many times, and it likely comes from the same place Palin's does. Warpy Aug 2016 #26
Wow. He meets not just three, but just about all of the criteria! Ilsa Aug 2016 #31
Sarah Palin in a suit. Cracklin Charlie Aug 2016 #8
He's filling out the bluebook with nonsense. JoePhilly Aug 2016 #9
I'm surprised Wharton hasn't sued him for ruining their reputation as a school world wide wally Aug 2016 #11
Suing would be too like Trump; but nearly 4,000 of them have repudiated him muriel_volestrangler Aug 2016 #14
"the women are smarter right now than the men" muriel_volestrangler Aug 2016 #12
Women are for Hillary by a landslide. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2016 #16
Well, duh.... Wounded Bear Aug 2016 #18
ROFL ananda Aug 2016 #13
I could barely read it, let alone... 3catwoman3 Aug 2016 #17
Stream of consciousness nonsense jcgoldie Aug 2016 #19
It makes me think of this ... NurseJackie Aug 2016 #20
It ends up looking like his hair. rug Aug 2016 #22
LOL, love it. fleabiscuit Aug 2016 #28
Holy run on sentence! Initech Aug 2016 #23
I literally had to stop reading that. Stinky The Clown Aug 2016 #24
Either he's on drugs or his brain is full of noodles. He makes W look like a rocket scientist. onecaliberal Aug 2016 #27
Constantly having to brag about himself. Ilsa Aug 2016 #29
I feel dumber after reading that because I lost focus not halfway through. Blaukraut Aug 2016 #30
This reminds me of the death bed words of Dutch Scultz. lapucelle Aug 2016 #32
Easy... JHB Aug 2016 #33
I want to see his grades from Wharton Motley13 Aug 2016 #34
Diarrhea of the mouth, and I mean that literally. milestogo Aug 2016 #35
He's got word salad sara beat all to hell madokie Aug 2016 #36
Great words of wisdom, believe me. Really great. Perhaps the greatest words of all time. Binkie The Clown Aug 2016 #37
Perfect answer. Agnosticsherbet Aug 2016 #38
Grammar teachers the world over are tearing out their hair at that. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2016 #39
Ok-heading for the Tylenol. Or the whiskey. Maybe both. kairos12 Aug 2016 #40

emulatorloo

(44,156 posts)
2. Makes Palin speeches seem well reasoned and articulate
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 06:22 PM
Aug 2016

What the hell is that "Good genes, very good genes" thing about?

apcalc

(4,465 posts)
3. He is related to those good genes! He has good genes!
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 06:25 PM
Aug 2016

Very smart!!!! ...for a conservative Republican...so says he...

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
10. It is like all his words bottleneck at his food hole.
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 06:31 PM
Aug 2016

I would call it a mouth, but it looks more like a jagged angry rip is space.

Igel

(35,332 posts)
21. Because it's not a sentence.
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 07:24 PM
Aug 2016

It's just punctuated as one.

It's a bunch of sentence fragments, the occasional sentence, and a number of dysfluencies that he doesn't bother to repair.

"SOC." Stream of consciousness on steroids, with an uncooperative transcriber. (I've compared a lot of speeches with their transcriptions, and things are often cleaned up. It's one of the options you pay for when you hire a transcriptionist--verbatim, slight editing, more editing. Verbatim's the hardest, with all the ums and broken sentences included, so you have to sort out exactly how to punctuate them.

Warpy

(111,305 posts)
26. I have, many times, and it likely comes from the same place Palin's does.
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 07:45 PM
Aug 2016

It's called "flight of ideas" and it's definitely not normal. He's not as bad as Palin is, but the stress of campaigning is getting him there.

http://psychcentral.com/disorders/hypomanic-episode-symptoms/

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
31. Wow. He meets not just three, but just about all of the criteria!
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 08:04 PM
Aug 2016
Hypomanic Episode Symptoms By Steve Bressert, Ph.D.

Snip

A hypomanic episode is an emotional state characterized by a distinct period of persistently elevated, expansive, or irritable mood, lasting throughout at least 4 days. The mood is present for most of the day nearly every day. This hypomanic mood is clearly different from the person’s usual mood.

During the period of mood disturbance, 3 or more of the following symptoms have persisted (4 if the mood is only irritable) and have been present to a significant degree:

Inflated self-esteem or grandiosity
Decreased need for sleep (e.g., feels rested after only 3 hours of sleep)
More talkative than usual or pressure to keep talking
Flight of ideas or subjective experience that thoughts are racing
Distractibility (e.g., attention too easily drawn to unimportant or irrelevant external stimuli)
Increase in goal-directed activity (either socially, at work or school, or sexually) or psychomotor agitation
Excessive involvement in pleasurable activities that have a high potential for painful consequences (e.g., the person engages in unrestrained buying sprees, sexual indiscretions, or foolish business investments)


muriel_volestrangler

(101,337 posts)
14. Suing would be too like Trump; but nearly 4,000 of them have repudiated him
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 06:46 PM
Aug 2016
Why Thousands In The Wharton Community Signed The Open Letter To Donald Trump

The Open Letter to Donald Trump has been signed by almost 4,000 verified students, alumni, faculty, and family members of the Wharton community—including verified members of every Wharton class from 1964 to 2021. Many readers have asked us to comment on why our signatories decided to add their names to the open letter. In response, we decided to analyze the comments of Mr. Trump alongside those of our signatories. Here’s what we found.

While Donald Trump has repeatedly brandished his Wharton undergraduate degree as proof of his intelligence, the Wharton community has never celebrated intelligence for its own sake. We readily recognize that intelligence can never be an end in itself—intelligence only has meaningful social value if it is applied toward a meaningful social end. To that end, we seek to harness the power of data and evidence to improve our businesses and our communities.

In contrast, Mr. Trump has long remained fixated on intelligence as an intrinsic measure. In a fit of braggadocio, he once tweeted, “Sorry losers and haters, but my I.Q. is one of the highest—and you all know it! Please don’t feel so stupid or insecure, it’s not your fault.” Mr. Trump’s theatrics obscure the fact that any ostensible indicator of intelligence—educational credentials or otherwise—is a red herring. What is the relevance of Mr. Trump’s intelligence if 76% of his fact-checked statements are patently false?

“Trumpism is a celebration of ignorance,” wrote Madhan Gounder, one of the signatories of the open letter and a 2003 alumnus of the Wharton undergraduate program (“W’03”). “It is the duty of anyone hoping to live in a fact-based world—regardless of political affiliation—to oppose Trump’s candidacy.” A 1991 alumnus of the college (“C’91”) agreed that Mr. Trump was “illogical, ignorant, uninformed, temperamentally unfit for political office,” and “a danger to the country and the world.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/why-thousands-in-the-wharton-community-signed-the-open_us_579e9916e4b00e7e269fcbb2

muriel_volestrangler

(101,337 posts)
12. "the women are smarter right now than the men"
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 06:39 PM
Aug 2016

Just focus on that, and think of the rest of that stream-of-ego as evidence for that.

3catwoman3

(24,023 posts)
17. I could barely read it, let alone...
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 07:16 PM
Aug 2016

...diagram it. I vote for word sewage.

Are there any actual sentences in that mess of just a bunch of fragments cobbled together? Jesus H. Christ on a blackboard!

There are a few psychiatric diagnoses which have flight of ideas as a feature of the disorder.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
29. Constantly having to brag about himself.
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 07:59 PM
Aug 2016

What a narcissist.

I wonder if he's done a lot of hard drugs? Is this some sort of organic brain disease? Maybe coupled with a personality disorder?

lapucelle

(18,294 posts)
32. This reminds me of the death bed words of Dutch Scultz.
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 08:07 PM
Aug 2016

Police who were guarding Dutch Schultz in the hospital where he lay in agony after being shot by a hit man transcribed last words.

From police transcripts of the incoherent deathbed statement

Oh, mamma, mamma, please don't tear; don't rip...

Mother is the best bet and don't let Satan draw you too fast.

Who shot me? No one.

I will be checked and double-checked and please pull for me.

The sidewalk was in trouble and the bears were in trouble and I broke it up.

I can't come; express office was closed.

Please crack down on the Chinaman's friends and Hitler's commander.

These native children make this and sell you the joint.

You can play jacks, and girls do that with a soft ball and do tricks with it.

A mother's boy has never wept, nor dashed a thousand kim.

Oh, oh, dog biscuit, and when he is happy he doesn't get snappy

Hey, Jimmie! The Chimney Sweeps. Talk to the Sword. Shut up, you got a big mouth! Please come help me up, Henny.

Max come over here. French Canadian bean soup. I want to pay. Let them leave me alone.

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