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cali

(114,904 posts)
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 09:26 AM Jun 2012

Raul Rodriquez convicted



By Brett Coomer, AP

Raul Rodriguez is found guilty of killing his neighbor, Kelly Danaher, in Houston on Wednesday.
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Raul Rodriguez, 47, argued he was within his rights under Texas' version of a stand-your-ground law when he killed Kelly Danaher in 2010. The trial's punishment phase, which will include further testimony, was scheduled to begin Thursday.

Rodriguez was angry about the noise coming from Danaher's home, where the family was having a birthday party for Danaher's wife and young daughter. Rodriguez went to the home and got into an argument with Danaher, a 36-year-old elementary school teacher, and two other men who were at the party.

In a 22-minute video he recorded the night of the shooting, Rodriguez can be heard telling a police dispatcher "my life is in danger now" and "these people are going to go try and kill me." He then said "I'm standing my ground here," and shot Danaher after somebody appeared to grab his camera. The two other men were wounded.

Rodriguez's reference to standing his ground is similar to the claim made by George Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch volunteer who is citing Florida's stand-your-ground law in his defense in the fatal February shooting of an unarmed teenager, Trayvon Martin. Rodriguez's case, however, was decided under a different kind of self-defense doctrine.

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http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-06-14/texas-stand-your-ground/55592380/1
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Raul Rodriquez convicted (Original Post) cali Jun 2012 OP
who didn't see THAT coming? Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #1
Fortunately the Houston jury was not stupid enough to buy this bullshit defense CanonRay Jun 2012 #2
He made sure he said all the right things to his camera tularetom Jun 2012 #3
Pure hyperbole and fantasy on your part ProgressiveProfessor Jun 2012 #4
what part of that isn't true? Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #5
You apparently haven't watched the video laundry_queen Jun 2012 #7
I agree with the poster, and I am a CCW holder obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #8
I have better things to fantasize about than some asshole shooting someone tularetom Jun 2012 #9
Apparently not the right things 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #11
Wow that is so stupid in so many ways SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #12
A good self-defense class teaches you how to obey the law and stay out of trouble slackmaster Jun 2012 #15
k&r Starry Messenger Jun 2012 #6
But but the law says you can murder anyone at any time for any reason 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #10
Rodriguez is a idiot makokun Jun 2012 #13
Sense. Iggo Jun 2012 #16
his name wasn't white enough. pansypoo53219 Jun 2012 #14
Wow SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #17

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
1. who didn't see THAT coming?
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 09:29 AM
Jun 2012

funny how some DUers were so vehement in Rodriguez's defense last week...I guess some people just like going against the grain...

CanonRay

(14,119 posts)
2. Fortunately the Houston jury was not stupid enough to buy this bullshit defense
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 09:37 AM
Jun 2012

but a person is still dead because Rodriguez thought he could kill and get away with it. These laws are a step too far.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
3. He made sure he said all the right things to his camera
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 09:48 AM
Jun 2012

I'm sure he attended one of those "armed self defense" classes where they told him how to get away with shooting somebody by "standing his ground", and provided a few programmed phrases to use.

Hard to believe he didn't plan all of this in advance when he's so careful to get it all on video.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
5. what part of that isn't true?
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 10:30 AM
Jun 2012

the dialogue was specifically scripted for the camera, he called the cops about the noise for the 100th time, even though the cops already said there was no substance to the complaint (knowing that sooner or later his neighbor would get pissed off and come by for a chat), and before the victim even stops the truck to get out, the shooter is already screaming at him...

The guy was a paranoid nutbar coward with a history of anger issues who couldn't even look at his own shadow without his sidearm on his hip...The NRA and 2a activists kept their distance from this case for a reason...

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
7. You apparently haven't watched the video
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 10:50 AM
Jun 2012

or if you have, you have the world's worst BS detector.

When he says, "I.am.now.in.danger." and "I.am.standing.my.ground." and other buzzphrases like he's fucking robot, while the guy in front of him is 20 feet away with his hands in the air, he is probably full of shit and just trying to cover his ass because he knows he's going to shoot. There are plenty of other times in the video where he sounds like it's a set up. Apparently the jury agreed. Funny how he thought he'd video the whole scene to help him get off, and it's what ended up convicting him.

Kind of like those cops who are sitting on someone who is half dead and they are screaming, "stop resisting!"
MOST people can tell when it's bullshit.

obamanut2012

(26,143 posts)
8. I agree with the poster, and I am a CCW holder
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 10:56 AM
Jun 2012

It is obvious he was planning something, because of the recording, and his purpose was obvious as soon as he started stating he was standing his ground and in fear of his life.

Remember, he also said a cop at the scene was drunk.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
9. I have better things to fantasize about than some asshole shooting someone
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 11:32 AM
Jun 2012

And I know people like this, I see them at the range all the time.

They make me very uncomfortable and I try to stay far away from them.

 

SGMRTDARMY

(599 posts)
12. Wow that is so stupid in so many ways
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 11:43 AM
Jun 2012

I've attended several of those classes and for the life of me, I don't remember that part of the curriculum. Maybe I didn't attend the super secret classes put on by the NRA.

This asshole got what he deserved. I watched the video and it seemed to me like the dude was reading from a script. Now he gets to do hard time in a prison of the states choice where he belongs. What an asshat.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
15. A good self-defense class teaches you how to obey the law and stay out of trouble
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 12:15 PM
Jun 2012

Not how to break the law and avoid punishment.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
10. But but the law says you can murder anyone at any time for any reason
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 11:40 AM
Jun 2012

and it's totally cool!

I was told, by a number of legal experts on here, that SYG gave every gun owner the explicit *right* to bully and murder their neighbors for kicks.

Someone call the ACLU, this guy is having his rights trampled.

 

makokun

(57 posts)
13. Rodriguez is a idiot
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 11:55 AM
Jun 2012

Credit should be given where credit is due. Rodriguez was looking to murder his neighbor who he had a history with. He hatched a hair-brained scheme he thought would justify it, trespassed and shot the guy on his own property. This is cut and dried, no law justified what Rodriguez did. It's nearly a home invasion. Rodriguez's idiotic claims of it being an SYG issue are ridiculous.

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