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Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 11:24 AM Aug 2016

Trump raised 81 million dollars in July??.Something is rotten in Denmark here

or wherever this money came from.

I am out in the garden, early this morning, trying to avoid the heat.. and I had just heard before I went out that Trump raised 81 million dollars in July??

Much of it from small donors online??

Now I realize that he is now their candidate and certainly he would be getting RNC money..The RNC who cannot stand him

But how can a man, who did not even have a million dollars on hand a couple of months ago.. had no money.. suddenly get all these donations of 16 dollars or less coming in.. 81 million??

There is something not making a lot of sense here..

And it hit me.. what a perfect way to mess with our election.. send in funds in small donations from outside entities that would be hard to track.. and then.. my guess would be.. buy up every second of TV time you can get and radio time two or four weeks before the election and saturate it with negative media.

Does make you want to go hmmmmmmmm doesn't it?

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Trump raised 81 million dollars in July??.Something is rotten in Denmark here (Original Post) Peacetrain Aug 2016 OP
I thought very weird too. apcalc Aug 2016 #1
You know I do not know how the small donor thing works online Peacetrain Aug 2016 #2
As the OP implies, this LARGE Trump "donor thing" looks like bribe money Jeffersons Ghost Aug 2016 #17
Possibly biggest part... wcmagumba Aug 2016 #3
Interesting.. Peacetrain Aug 2016 #4
Not small donors SCantiGOP Aug 2016 #5
I just looked up the breakdown Peacetrain Aug 2016 #8
Between Adelson , Mnuchin , Don and Co Kathy M Aug 2016 #14
It definitely did not come from Denmark!!! :-) flor-de-jasmim Aug 2016 #6
Apologies to Denmark.. just an old saying :) Peacetrain Aug 2016 #9
Take heart: Romney raised $120 million in July 2012. Brickbat Aug 2016 #7
Mitt Romney I can understand.. Peacetrain Aug 2016 #10
Nah not really weird whatthehey Aug 2016 #11
There is something whacky about this Peacetrain Aug 2016 #12
As I said, he's the nominee now whatthehey Aug 2016 #13
Here's a realistic pic of how/why that might happen cloudythescribbler Aug 2016 #15
Adelson and other deep pockets + money laundering tricks maybe? nt tblue37 Aug 2016 #16
I thought his campagin was crying broke though? romanic Aug 2016 #18

apcalc

(4,465 posts)
1. I thought very weird too.
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 11:26 AM
Aug 2016

Where is this money coming from? Small US donors?
Is August 20 the disclosure date?

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
2. You know I do not know how the small donor thing works online
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 11:29 AM
Aug 2016

I donate snail mail.. It is just so weird.. does not make any sense.. suddenly he has all this money??

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
17. As the OP implies, this LARGE Trump "donor thing" looks like bribe money
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 03:27 PM
Aug 2016

There is a possibility bribes from foreign nations, like Russia, China or North Korea are involved:
North Korean state media has praised US presidential hopeful Donald Trump, describing him as a “wise politician” and “far-sighted candidate” who could help unify the Korean peninsula. Trump appears willing to "remove troops from Soul, South Korea to invite another invasion from the north. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/31/north-korea-praises-trump-and-urges-us-voters-to-reject-dull-hillary

wcmagumba

(2,886 posts)
3. Possibly biggest part...
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 11:29 AM
Aug 2016

is 40 to 50 million (or more) in "forgiven loans" the orange douche supposedly has made to his own campaign. Makes the fundraising numbers look so much better...

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
5. Not small donors
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 11:31 AM
Aug 2016

I was getting out of the car this morning as the story was on NPR. The last thing I heard was that the majority of the money was coming from people who were contributing the maximum amount allowed and also giving to his PAC.

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
8. I just looked up the breakdown
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 11:40 AM
Aug 2016
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-raises-80-million-

Speaking on CNBC, Mnuchin said Wednesday that the $80 million in fundraising "includes $64 million of small-dollar donations, and $16 million of donations with the [Republican National Committee]."

Trump has now put more than $56 million of his own money into the race, the campaign announced, including a recent $2 million injection through a matching program.

Trump's campaign also said it raised over $16 million from 20 fundraising events, held in conjunction with the RNC.

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
10. Mitt Romney I can understand..
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 11:42 AM
Aug 2016

but this guy could not raise a turnip before this.. something is off here.. my opinion

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
11. Nah not really weird
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 11:44 AM
Aug 2016

There are tens of millions of lockstep Republicans just like there are tens of millions of Yellow Dogs, me included, on our side. Who the nominee is doesn't matter to either. Take them and add in the Aryan klan neonazi types who finally get to be excited about a candidate for a few weeks and it's no surprise he raised a bunch. No surprise nor worry.

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
12. There is something whacky about this
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 11:46 AM
Aug 2016

Where were they before this?? Our candidates have been raising money all along.. and Donald had rabid supporters in his primary and did not raise anything.. It just does not add up to me.. literally

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
13. As I said, he's the nominee now
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 11:52 AM
Aug 2016

Just like the parties get multiples more GE votes than primary votes, they get far more donations. People who vote R regardless will donate R regardless. He's now getting all of them with no sharing, plus those who don't even bother donating in the primaries at all (this cycle was the first time I ever did at POTUS level, but I always donate in the GE, so Clinton will pick up a new donor this month too). It would be weird if he didn't get a big donation boost from becoming the official R standardbearer in the GE.

cloudythescribbler

(2,586 posts)
15. Here's a realistic pic of how/why that might happen
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 11:59 AM
Aug 2016

First, I don't know where the $16 figure comes from. $60 million in "small" donations could be defined broadly -- pretty much any donation under $100 is likely to be considered "small". Tho if they define "small" the way they do in Congress for "small" farmers the number could be much higher

Remember that those of us who have been inundated w/various pleas for money from candidates galore have often tapped out as far as our 'favorite' candidate(s) are. In the case of Trump, he has NOT had a massive email list or donation-collecting machine at work, or perhaps even the basic "infrastructure" in place for his own campaign to do so.

But once he became the presumptive nominee, this would begin to shift in a big way. The various donation lists of the Republican Party machine would be made available to him and to his campaign, and they would themselves be working on special lists of Trump supporters that are not among the GOP's 'usual suspects' for donating

Further, it is quite possible that given the extremely high level of disorganization in the Trump campaign, this effort at least by his own campaign to tap its base did not get started as soon as he became the presumptive nominee. It might very well have been well into June before they really got into the swing of things, getting their own 'phone banks' and so forth set up. Usually national campaigns at such an advanced phase would move quicker, but that cannot be assumed even highly probable in the case of Trump.

Then there was the GOP hate-fest starting July 18. Now most DUers and quite possibly a huge proportion of Independents and even Republicans were turned off by it. It was not exactly the most successful convention in history. But for the hard core of support for Trump/the GOP, their convention might well be a turn-on. It's that 1-2 million hard-core "beliebers" so to speak, mass fans of this sort of thing (and a hate-fest is NOT new for a GOP convention -- remember all the 'purple heart band-aids' and such at the GOP Convention in 2004, an at least quasi-victorious/theft year for the GOP -- so again for the hard-core this could be a real turn on

So you have all this 'virgin soil' as far as fundraising for Trump is concern starting to be 'cultivated' en masse for donations, accoompanied by the Party's massive info-mercial with its own 10s of millions of sympathetic viewers at some point during the week, and at least a large PORTION of the core base energized. A sudden surge in donations mainly from that core is hardly bizarre, as a stand-alone fact. But if further investigation turns up more sleaze, or maybe outright lying about the "small" donations, (as there might very well be a modest numbered core of fat-cats who would give a lot as Republican loyalists, despte the well-publicized handful of billionaires who normally give GOP and are outraged by Trump). The "lying" (or misleading about what constitutes a 'small' donation, at the least) would not leave me exactly falling off the floor

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