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Don Lemon played it last night on CNN.
this version is uncensored....lots of f words and n words. it's nothing you'll be surprised with, just REALITY. if CNN and the other networks played this in prime time, over and over, I can't imagine it now being a game changer.
Hillary, your people must have seen this. I don't know the best way to edit this, but lots of Trump rants, juxtaposed with the crazies going crazy would be a good start.
this is truly repellent stuff
EDIT: it would help to have the correct link.....
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/04/us/politics/donald-trump-supporters.html?_r=0
SticksnStones
(2,108 posts)Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)will put the right one in...this one
much thanks
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/04/us/politics/donald-trump-supporters.html?_r=0
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)disturbing stuff
SticksnStones
(2,108 posts)It's just so sad...and a little unsettling to see that much organized anger.
White guys who want the country to be the one they grew up in, oblivious to what the world was like 50 years ago for everyone who wasn't a straight white guy...
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)and all those Godwin law pimps can stuff it
that's just PC for wingnuts, designed to stifle any sort of rational comparisons between eras
there is NO LESS hate with the Klansters or the Stormfronters than there was in the brownshirts, and these bullies aren't that far away
I was around when they went after MLK with bricks in Cicero, so don't tell me Sinclair Lewis was wrong
http://billmoyers.com/story/trumps-bigotry-revives-fears-of-it-cant-happen-here/
SticksnStones
(2,108 posts)was purposeful. For awhile it was a suitable pushback for those threads around the net that would start to go off the rails, calling Obama a nazi for, like, trying to get people access to some kind of healthcare.
I know campaigns get heated. I remember quite clearly my first rally - Jimmy Carter at a local college. Big loud crowds, it was overwhelming but not like these.
And of course, this being America and all, one figures once the election is done this will calm down a bit because, well, AMERICA! And elections and stuff, right?
But this feels different. He's opened Pandora's box. He's made racism a political point of view entitled to express itself.
And when he portends to violence if he doesn't win...words fail.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)that's where the discussion begins
he CLEARLY has incited violence, if only the incipient sort that includes pushing, shoving, dragging, etc, but he HAS raised the bar with other of his 'best' words
here
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/06/us/politics/95000-words-many-of-them-ominous-from-donald-trumps-tongue.html?ref=politics
can't cut and paste past this....my computer can't handle this page. note the date>>>>it's only gotten worse since then
The New York Times analyzed every public utterance by Mr. Trump over the past week from rallies, speeches, interviews and news conferences to explore the leading candidates hold on the Republican electorate for the past five months. The transcriptions yielded 95,000 words and several powerful patterns, demonstrating how Mr. Trump has built one of the most surprising political movements in decades and, historians say, echoing the appeals of some demagogues of the past century.
Mr. Trumps breezy stage presence makes him all the more effective because he is not as off-putting as those raging men of the past, these experts say.
SticksnStones
(2,108 posts)Just because the brownshirts have arrived, do we lose the validity of pushing back each time one of Obama's policies reminds someone of Hitler?
I used to think Trump was a great salesman, nothing more, just great at selling. He knew that you repeat something in sets of three and people will believe and remember what you've said. And his growl really riles the crowds -gets them on their feet.
But thankfully, while he can sell, he can't seem to close the deal.
So there's that.
Zing Zing Zingbah
(6,496 posts)The women at the rallies appeared to be older... maybe 50+. Younger women are probably more concerned with their reproductive rights (as they should be). Also, I would think the way Trump has a tendency to sexually objectify younger women would probably make him unappealing to them.
SheriffBob
(552 posts)the secret service has seen this. Full of death threats against Clinton.
Great post! Will tweet it.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)Mark Hertsgaard's book on the beatles, album by album, basically
he had access to some of the 400 hours of beatles music stored at abbey road
best thing I've ever read about them.
the section on the making of day in the life is very satisfying
http://markhertsgaard.com/a-day-in-the-life-the-music-and-artistry-of-the-beatles/
Here we learn how George Harrisons stirring composition While My Guitar Gently Weeps was completely transformed from an achingly meditative acoustic masterpiece to a hard-rocking hitin forty-four takes. We recall how the fantastic final mix of Strawberry Fields Forever opens the door to a psychedelic utopia, but discover it is the haunting solo version that takes us down to the core of John Lennons disillusioned soul. And only here do we see how the Beatles audacious ability to reinvent themselves stamped the groups unfolding ingenuity on each album like a fingerprint.
Klaus Voormann will be at some beatles fest this weekend outside Chicago.
I'm going
http://chicago.carpediem.cd/events/473028-the-fest-for-beatles-fans-chicago-2016-at-hyatt-regency-ohare/
Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)very powerful to see it on the tube, though
thanks