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struggle4progress

(118,295 posts)
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 11:10 PM Aug 2016

Miss Teen USA says friends, music influenced racist comments

Last updated 10:07
August 3 2016

The new Miss Teen USA calls her use of racist language on social media a "careless mistake," saying she was influenced by friends ...

The posts were unearthed hours after she was crowned the winner of the beauty pageant Saturday in Las Vegas ...

The Miss Universe Organization condemned the tweets but has stood by her as critics called for Hay to lose her crown.


http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/beauty/82763781/miss-teen-usa-says-friends-music-influenced-racist-tweets

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Miss Teen USA says friends, music influenced racist comments (Original Post) struggle4progress Aug 2016 OP
Newly-crowned Miss Teen USA blames n-word tweets on music struggle4progress Aug 2016 #1
Three years ago??? Beartracks Aug 2016 #2
Not the first white teenage rap fan to say something dumb @ 15 emulatorloo Aug 2016 #3
What kind of music does she listen to? Norwegian black metal? Initech Aug 2016 #4
This Needs To Stop erpowers Aug 2016 #5
What's also got to stop is assuming that everybody should be perfect Igel Aug 2016 #6
voluntary community service here: Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #7

struggle4progress

(118,295 posts)
1. Newly-crowned Miss Teen USA blames n-word tweets on music
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 11:11 PM
Aug 2016
... Karlie Hay, 18, of Tomball, Texas, has apologized after offensive tweets - that included the use of the N-word- resurfaced when she was given the title.

The teenager has said she has 'grown up' since then and admitted the language is 'never acceptable'.

... she claimed she wrote the messages because she was 'trying to fit in with my friends' as a 15-year-old ...


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3719908/I-trying-fit-friends-Newly-crowned-Miss-Teen-USA-blames-sickening-n-word-tweets-music-listened-people-hung-childhood.html

Beartracks

(12,816 posts)
2. Three years ago???
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 11:27 PM
Aug 2016

A tweet??!

Pfft.

If someone HASN'T grown up a LOT between 15 and 18, something's wrong.

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erpowers

(9,350 posts)
5. This Needs To Stop
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 10:36 AM
Aug 2016

We need to stop letting people blame others for their actions. There was a time when if someone said they did something because their friends did it the response to that person would be, "Well, if your friend jumped off a bridge would you do the same thing? Well, okay do not blame you friends for this bad behavior."

I support Miss Hay being allowed to keep her crown. However, she should not be allowed to blame her friends, or music for her actions. I am pretty certain she knew it was wrong for her to use the n-word. Even if black people and rappers use the n-word she still should not use the word.

Igel

(35,320 posts)
6. What's also got to stop is assuming that everybody should be perfect
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 10:55 AM
Aug 2016

except us.

Or they must all know exactly what we do. We mostly broke our 12-year-old of this defect years ago. Sometimes he still forgets that he can know or believe something that others do, or forgets that others may know more than him. Not that often, but sometimes ... So at 12 he's still a work in progress. We hope to have that problem licked by the time he's 15.


The problem isn't the use of the word, it's assumptions about what the word must mean or the way it must be interpreted. If you're black and you use it, you're assumed to be trustworthy. If you're white and use it, you're assumed to be hostile. The assumptions are sometimes wrong, either way, for that word and for other taboo words.

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