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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJill Stein reveals her true colors via her running mate:: WTF?!!
http://fusion.net/story/332652/jill-stein-ajamu-baraka-beyonce/?utm_campaign=ThisIsFusion&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=socialWould someone please define Stein's running mate..UGH!
So Bill Clinton is a rapist (LIE)
Bernie Sanders is a white supremacist (LIE)
Beyonce only sang all those words for BLM to capitalize on profits (LIE)
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From the link:
Jill Stein, the great hope of the Green Party, announced yesterday that shed selected Ajamu Baraka, a human rights activist, as her running mate for this years presidential election.
SNIP
While those outside of the far-left activist community might not be all that familiar with Barakas politics, for the past six years, the vice presidential hopeful has maintained a fairly active personal blog where hes written about race, international affairs, and current events. (Neither Barakas or Steins teams returned requests for comment.)
Each page of Barakas blog opens with a very appropriate bell hooks quote describing itself as a site of radical possibility, a space of resistance. Baraka resists and he does so radically on a number of topics, including:
On Muhammad Ali, Dylan Roof, Barack Obama, and Bill Clinton:
Baraka wrote.The announcement that Bill Clinton, the rapist and petty opportunist politician, had been chosen to deliver the eulogy at Alis funeral suggests that his family is heading down that same path. MORE..
On Bernie Sanders and his supporters:
Sanders campaign, Baraka wrote, was less concerned about actual political reform and more interested in a tacit commitment to Eurocentrism and normalized white supremacy.
Sanders supporters, Baraka explains, are basically just naive shills. MORE...
On Beyoncé, Formation, and black pop culture commentary:
I cannot for the life of me understand how Beyonces commodified caricature of black opposition was in any way progressive, Baraka said. I didnt see opposition; I saw the imagery and symbols of authentic black radicalism grotesquely transformed into a de-politicized spectacle by gyrating, light-skinned booty-short-clad sisters.
Now this is the type of candidate the people can get behind. MORE...
Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)Warpy
(111,367 posts)by running a pious, fetus obsessed antiabortionist for governor.
Nuh-uh, people, not going to waste a vote on you, ever.
I do miss the Socialist Workers' Party in Boston. They occasionally found some stellar candidates for local office.
FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)I'd only be surprised if she choose someone with an IQ higher than room temp.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)is in 3 days, so after everyone else said no... If anyone wanted to know more about her, this choice is enlightening. Or something. It may just indicate dysfunction and desperation more than ideology. He represents a viewpoint, but it's one where Cornel West is too establishment-oriented.
Btw, Baraka's Wickipedia site said he called Bernie supporters "naive shills..." So obviously Stein is blowing off those who looked for a home in the Green Party.
Wickipedia:
In September 2015, he said that "the world that a President Sanders promisescontinued war crimes from the sky with drone strikes and Saudi led terror in support of the Western imperial project." He has referred to Obama and the Sanders campaign as "a tacit commitment to Eurocentrism and the assumptions of normalized white supremacy."
In September 2015, Baraka criticized Dr. Cornel West and West's support for Sanders, saying that he was "sheep-dogging for the Democrats" by "drawing voters into the corrupt Democratic party". West later endorsed Baraka's running mate Jill Stein after Sanders suspended his campaign.
And the entry is cited for being too dependent on "primary sources," i.e., friendly. Lol.
Initech
(100,107 posts)bluedye33139
(1,474 posts)underthematrix
(5,811 posts)misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)Mike Nelson
(9,970 posts)...fail.
JI7
(89,276 posts)emulatorloo
(44,192 posts)thinking. If her goal is to attract disgruntled Sanders supporters, picking a VP who has said vile, dismissive, untrue things about Bernie and his supporters shows a real lack of judgement.
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)WOW!
Absolutely appalling.
melman
(7,681 posts)and it was just as appalling when it was done here.
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)Among the litany of RW talking pts to divide the only Party with any obvious sense for governing the lunatics emerging in this GE.
FUBAR
mercuryblues
(14,547 posts)the post where Sanders was called a white supremacist by a Duer. I must have missed it
onehandle
(51,122 posts)I think they are secretly 'end-of-timers.'
They should team up with fundies that are looking forward to Revelations.
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)And there they were waving there stupid signs at the Dem Convention.
How much more f'd up can people get.
This election has brought them all out "capitalizing" on crazy.
Rex
(65,616 posts)nt
RAFisher
(466 posts)JI7
(89,276 posts)LWolf
(46,179 posts)Election fraud and the Supreme Court gave us GWB.
I don't really give a flying fuck about the Green ticket VP, but every single time this bullshit piece is trotted out, I'm going to call it what it is. Bullshit.
RAFisher
(466 posts)Hell if less than a third of New Hampshire Nader voters voted for Gore then Gore would have won. He didn't need Florida if he had NH.
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)The Supreme Court, election fraud, AND Ralph Nader gave us W. To deny his role in helping them steal it is to deny reality, and as long as I continue to see people deny that, I'm going to call it what it is. Bullshit.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)I don't blame Nader voters. First of all, the disclaimer: I voted for Gore.
Nader voters were committing democracy and exercising their right to vote. There is no fraud nor cheating there. If Democrats didn't win those votes, that's on Democrats. It's not the fault of those they didn't win.
I, for one, am a strong proponent of democracy.
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)In my defense I can honestly say I was planning on voting for Gore pretty much up until the last minute. I was 24 and going to college and working in a movie theater at the time, and I had heard on the radio that Gore had already been declared the winner of California, my state. So I figured what the hell and went and cast my vote for Nader when I got off work, believing it would make no difference since Gore had already won here.
I regret my vote to this day. Not because it would have made a difference in the outcome, it wouldn't have. But I regret giving credence to Nader and his platform of lies that there is no difference between the Democratic and Republican parties. I regret being young and naive and being taken in by a man who I have come to believe is one of the greatest con men operating in American politics (fortunately a lot less now). I was young and naive and idealistic. I bought into the whole "vote your conscience, not your fear" crap that Nader and the Greens were peddling back then and still are today. I regret not knowing that being young and white and from a middle class family did not prepare me for the fact that sometimes fear is warranted and a perfectly valid thing to feel, especially when it comes to handing over the reigns of the most powerful nation in the world to a bumbling psychopath.
I blame myself for being young and naive and taken in by his garbage. But I blame Nader for exploiting that type of idealism even more. Nader is a conniving ass who exploits idealism and naivety while all the while giving nothing back. Well, I take that back, he did give us George W. Bush.
Bernie Sanders did it right, fighting hard and sticking to his principles but ultimately putting his ego aside and doing what was right for the country and the planet by getting behind the Democratic nominee when the time was right. Nader did not. Nader loves his role of spoiler and relishes the power it gives him. He cares nothing for the people that will be hurt in the process. That makes him as bad as any Republican.
EuroYankee
(3 posts)Sorry, Nader took equally from BOTH parties. In Florida he took 1% each from Gore and Bush, thereby cancelling out any real influence on the outcome. But the dirty little secret that the DNC won't tell you is that 13% of Democrats voted for BUSH. THEY are the ones who gave us Bush.
If you put up a DLC corporatist Democrat instead of a progressive, you lose. It's like what Truman said - if given the choice of a phony Democrat and a true Republican, people will go for the real thing.
http://disinfo.com/2010/11/debunked-the-myth-that-ralph-nader-cost-al-gore-the-2000-election/
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)dlwickham
(3,316 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)SirBrockington
(259 posts)To making this guy the VP?
Snip:
To say that that Baraka opinions on Bernie Sanders were somewhat less than charitable would be something of an understatement. Sanders campaign, Baraka wrote, was less concerned about actual political reform and more interested in a tacit commitment to Eurocentrism and normalized white supremacy.
Sanders supporters, Baraka explains, are basically just naive shills.
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)compromise.
That's what a successful government has to be able & willing to do in the end when the dust clears.
The obstructionist thought of the Republicans is why Pres Obama was stopped at every turn.
Hillary understands the benefit to compromise & so does Bernie Sanders. Those who really are in this job for love of country & its people.
TrumpnStein can go to hell. They are both dispicable.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)Hive mentality. Fuck all of them.
Chathamization
(1,638 posts)supporters. I think that even if Sanders got the Democratic nomination, Stein would come up with some excuse to still run ("We're attacking Trump from the left!" "Were creating more space on the left for Sanders!" .
This Green Party candidate did a pretty good job at summing things up:
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)#FeelTheChern
struggle4progress
(118,374 posts)But now you look around these days, there seems to be an a-hole craze. I'm an a-hole! He's an a-hole! She's an a-hole! We're all a-holes! Wouldn't you like to be an a-hole too?"
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)That was a long time ago. What was once a promising and growing third party has devolved into a bad joke. Pretty soon they will go the way of Ross Perot's Reform Party. And the thing is, I won't miss them one bit. 20 years ago i wouldn't have been caught dead saying that.
MADem
(135,425 posts)the reins of power as she does. There's no discussion about who is going to lead the ticket--she's judge, jury and executioner. The party is her little fiefdom. She's turned it into a joke, and she uses it as a platform for her need for attention.
I always thought they'd grow their platform and their outreach in NORMAL ways, like, say, that grassroots stuff--get a few Greens on town/city councils, boards of education, etc., then move into state governments. But no--it's the All About Jill Party. She has turned it into a mockery of crazy-tude. It is her personal soap box. She is from my state, we "get" to see her more frequently than most in USA. Trust me, she doesn't improve with exposure.
romanic
(2,841 posts)owack6
(2 posts)I'm copying this from a user post on politico:
Ajamu Baraka's main mission in life as a blogger and activist has been to serve as an apologist for Islamic extremists and call for destruction of the state of Israel. He has defended Boko Haram in Nigeria by saying their violence needs to be seen "in context." He defended the Paris Muslim attackers of the Charlie Hebdo organization by labeling the victim a "racist Islamophobic publication." He defended the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt without ever mentioning that it is a terrorist organization and is the parent organization of Hamas, which seized power in Gaza in a violent coup against the Palestinian Authority.
As for Israel, Baraka has repeatedly called for its dissolution and replacement by a single "secular state" brought about by what he calls "the Palestinian Movement" -- transparent code for a new Arab invasion to kill the Jews. Baraka is a leader of the BDS movement, despite the fact that the biggest victims of Israel boycotts have been the Palestinian workers whose products carry an Israeli label.
Aside from violating the Green Party's professed commitment to nonviolence, Baraka's nomination, if it happens, would be the most vile nomination of any party in 2016, this most vile election year. It will also consign the Green Party to the oblivion it so rickly deserves.
This Ohioan was ready to vote for a Jill Stein-Nina Turner ticket in November. But the Green Party now moves to the very bottom of my preference list, and if Baraka is the VP nominee, I will actively work to push the Green Party below the requirement for ballot access in Ohio.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)These two define each other.
Stein is a liar.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Great pick, Jill!!
Every time I think she can't do anything more batshit crazy, she proves me wrong!
With this choice, she has shoved away all the potential disaffected Sanders supporters who weren't ready for HRC.
You'd have to have a LOT of "revenge" in your heart to pick a team that believes you are a "naive shill!" By voting, the angry voter is saying "I'm voting for someone who thinks I'm a nitwit!"
Cornel West would have been a more "moderate" choice! At least he's not talking shit about Sanders!!!
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)He won't win the Green Party many votes.
obamanut2012
(26,154 posts)Odin2005
(53,521 posts)marle35
(172 posts)Democat
(11,617 posts)Probably the right wing.