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GOPPERS will be more bitter and hateful than ever with a Hillary victory. I am sure you can count on it.
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)among the yapping moron crowd on TV will be the most enjoyable reality programming in years.
I'm hoping Sean Hannity strokes out.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)Brickbat
(19,339 posts)Either win will do so. Or are you saying a Sanders win wouldn't have? Again, I LMAO.
MADem
(135,425 posts)McConnell and Ryan do not want to be in the position of having to defend that orange ass.
They'd rather play the "fight against" game. Sometimes, when your candidate is a fucking idiot, like Trump is, the better position is as a member of the loyal opposition.
mjjoe
(260 posts)The word "loyal" in describing the GOP opposition. The Republicans in Congress have been pretty clear in their willingness to damage the country to achieve their political ends.
MADem
(135,425 posts)They aren't going to call themselves the "disloyal opposition."
They think we're the assholes, so they will regard themselves as "loyal" to the constructs of our system, even if they are obstructionist assholes.
If they take a drubbing at the polls, both in the executive branch contest and the legislative ones (GOTV!!!!! Push those downticket contests!!!!!!!!!!) then they will be cowed.
It's what needs to happen. They are either going to have to reinvent themselves completely, or follow the Whigs into oblivion.
Johnny2X2X
(19,066 posts)A trump win will tear the country apart. There will be serious civil unrest.
But to make a point, we have to try to reach these lost hateful souls that are his base, they are Americans too.
still_one
(92,219 posts)coming out supporting Hillary, including prominent members of the military, who have favored republicans for decades, that bitterness only applies to the most extreme of the republican party.
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treestar
(82,383 posts)they are already mad a black man has been president for 8 years.
librarylu
(503 posts)Unthinkable. Lock her up - in the kitchen.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)The embittered nation will be the very right wing of the republican party which is nowhere near the 40 or so percent people think it is. I live in the most red state in the country. We obviously know a lot of Republicans. The majority of the ones we know acknowledge that their party has lost their minds and that Hillary is the best choice.
They don't like it, but they tell us that she is more than ready to run the country. They don't believe in her policies but they plan to vote for her. Now, there are the nuts, like the Trumper next door but we have some of those types in our party as well.
Maybe I am being optimistic but I think if we get the Senate, and things get done it may not be as bad as it has been with President Obama, I think they hate the Black man in the white house so much they will be glad to have anyone white in there. Not saying that is right because it is NOT, just making an observation of the nuts on the other side. I try not to analyze them since they are so crazy you would need lots of letters after your name to do it.
gordianot
(15,240 posts)He would not defend the Constitution and would have to face the consequences.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)I'll take embittered, thanks.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Orrex
(63,216 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)to the republican party that they need to moderate or die.
MADem
(135,425 posts)We've had Obama, and now we'll have Clinton. If we get (Fill in name of D) in 2024, then we'll have reason to hand out the shovels to bury the GOP.
When an incumbent does not win a 2nd term, it's evidence of grave dissatisfaction. It's very difficult to shift them.
athena
(4,187 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)for President...
The death option is the only way.
If there were any moderate republicans with any power in the party Trump wouldn't be standing there victorious.
Even the damn Koch bros couldn't stop him.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)rufus dog
(8,419 posts)I thought they wouldn't accept Sarah Palin, they jumped immediately behind her. Then they nominate Trump. We need to learn one thing. They hate the idea of liberals more than anything else, for fucks sake, they are fine jumping behind Putin.
dawg
(10,624 posts)a nation.
Not so sure about the alternative.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)I do think she should bring some moderate Rethugs into the cabinet, to help soothe the divide.
MADem
(135,425 posts)convenience.
I think she will pick, choose and refuse from a wide spectrum of talent. She won't pick obstructionists or jerks, though--she'll pick people who put the country first.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)shraby
(21,946 posts)rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)The tremendous loyalty and affection they've shown President Obama?
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)Where's all the trolls?
eleny
(46,166 posts)mountain grammy
(26,624 posts)They're a dying breed. My father in law succumbed in 2012 after Obama's re-election. Most of his buddies will go when Hillary takes the oath. Not wishing death on anyone, these are all people well into their 80's and 90's who rail on and on about the "lazy takers" in America, while they continue to collect SS years after they've recouped everything they've paid in. I have no problem with that, but STFU about the working poor who are contributing to your well being.
world wide wally
(21,744 posts)Gasp!
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,007 posts)Get that fucking straight.
Pessimist.
Hillary Clinton's campaign is optimistic. Barack Obama's campaigns were optimistic.
[font size = "+1"]Republicans, Tea party types and Trump dead-enders do not define the United States of America.[/font]
Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)Will it be worse than what Pres Obama suffered? I don't know. Hard to believe it could be worse, but it's hard to believe they would support Trump to.
I think I need another believer. Mine's getting over worked.
blogslut
(38,002 posts)Maybe those people will come to understand that bitterness and hatred are emotional choices.
oswaldactedalone
(3,491 posts)or we all in a shitpile deeper than ever before. It's absolutely critical that we win the Senate and somehow squeak out a majority in the house. That's the only path forward so do more than you ever have to elect down ticket Dems at all levels. The Thuglican Party has to squashed and the sooner the better.
Salviati
(6,008 posts)... the same lesson that they learn from all their failures - not that their policies are unpopular, unworkable, and ineffective, but that their loss can be blamed on not being extreme enough!
David Duke / Rotting Corpse of George Wallace 2020!
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,950 posts)GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)Egnever
(21,506 posts)Whatever will we do?
Personally watching them go bat shit crazy over it is part of the appeal. Imagine the nutcase they will pick next time.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)Their salty tears will taste delicious.
Iggo
(47,558 posts)I'm not living my life trying not to piss off racist homophobic misogynistic assholes.
former9thward
(32,025 posts)And almost ungovernable. We are two nations living in one land and neither is going anywhere.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)take it to the bank.
DFW
(54,405 posts)Not all Republicans want their sons and daughters in the military exposed to the kind of danger Trump's Marvel Avengers fantasies would get us into. Not all Republicans are willing to risk an out-of-control budget that could make their net worth loss of 2008 seem like a misplaced dime. Not all Republicans want to see the kind of governmental chaos that will lead to a dysfunction that would cause a voter backlash favoring Democrats the likes of which they would REALLY need a generation to recover from.
There are plenty of Republicans out there who hope that a Hillary victory would bring their party rank and file back to (what they see as) their senses. This does NOT mean they have suddenly all become benevolent. George Will and David Brooks do NOT wish us well. But they know that Trump and his pals don't wish THEM well, so they are resigned to a Hillary victory. Die-hard Sanders supporters do not have a monopoly on the "lesser of two evils" outlook on this election.
Initech
(100,081 posts)8 years of office their heads will start exploding.
LostinRed
(840 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)More concerned about pushing back on their false memes and their egregious policies. Those ideologues deserve to be marginalized, not feared.
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lapucelle
(18,275 posts)Your concern is utterly unfounded, but duly noted.
spanone
(135,844 posts)Proud Public Servant
(2,097 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Fuck'em.
DawgHouse
(4,019 posts)StraightRazor
(260 posts)Republicans will make her four or eight years miserable for her and for us.
0rganism
(23,957 posts)fortunately, there will be far less of them
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)Same hate they have for Obama....
Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Let them scream.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Justice
(7,188 posts)try to make him fail at every turn. There isn't anything we can do about that mindset - but Hillary is tough, she can handle embittered - and she will get things done.
athena
(4,187 posts)It is, isn't it? Please tell me it is.