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Omaha Steve

(99,669 posts)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:06 PM Jul 2016

Tulsi Gabbard for DNC Chair NOW (edit)

Last edited Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:20 PM - Edit history (1)


Need I say more?

Edit to add: IF she is so toxic how did she get to be Vice Chair of the DNC in the first place.

The term is up in January. So 6 months only. I want to beat Trump. This short term office would go a long way. Simple concept. Think about it that way. It is going to come up at the convention.

A short term olive branch after the VP pick and email (more on the way we hear) upset many Dems, to unify the party and keep the White House.
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Tulsi Gabbard for DNC Chair NOW (edit) (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jul 2016 OP
Boooo! Boo boo boo! Bad idea! Boo! bravenak Jul 2016 #1
Why? Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #4
Don't like her ways bravenak Jul 2016 #9
Just like many do not like DWS and her ways Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #15
I prefer Donna myself bravenak Jul 2016 #17
Lol, we can actually agree Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #20
I much prefer Donna Brazile, as well. sarae Jul 2016 #35
You are not allowed to state that? sheshe2 Jul 2016 #109
She's a DINO. brush Jul 2016 #76
What a thought-provoking, and intelligent response... PoutrageFatigue Jul 2016 #24
I know, thx bravenak Jul 2016 #30
+100 n/t billh58 Jul 2016 #143
Would love it as she had the fortitude to actually resign Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #2
Hell no. Laurian Jul 2016 #3
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #5
She's a Putin servant? Cayenne Jul 2016 #117
I need butter for this ... Mika Jul 2016 #6
Absolutely not! lunamagica Jul 2016 #7
OMG NO!!! nt glennward Jul 2016 #8
Martin O'Malley... takes someone screwed by the system to make it better. n/t demmiblue Jul 2016 #10
I'm ok with him too Omaha Steve Jul 2016 #12
Now, THAT would be a great choice lunamagica Jul 2016 #88
Rec. O'Malley would be a great choice. MerryBlooms Jul 2016 #135
lol Firebrand Gary Jul 2016 #11
Served as vice chairwoman Omaha Steve Jul 2016 #16
You didn't bother looking up her history did you? Lancero Jul 2016 #118
She's been a member of the US Congress for 3 1/2 years... Firebrand Gary Jul 2016 #123
She was also a past vice chair of the DNC. Lancero Jul 2016 #125
She's bashed Obama and Dem positions too many times of FOX, and is an Islamophobe. brush Jul 2016 #138
That wasn't the claim I was going against. Lancero Jul 2016 #142
Girl..... UMTerp01 Jul 2016 #13
HELL NO. But thanks for your input. eom BlueCaliDem Jul 2016 #14
NEVER DURHAM D Jul 2016 #18
Fuck no. NuclearDem Jul 2016 #19
Huge K&R Tulsi Rocks nationalize the fed Jul 2016 #21
Unless you are muslim, then you are in her crosshairs. ehrnst Jul 2016 #57
Thank you for reminding me why I would not support her. LiberalFighter Jul 2016 #95
A resignation on principle outweighs particular policy differences. Jim Lane Jul 2016 #119
Julian Castro will likely be the permanent DNC chair ehrnst Jul 2016 #141
Exactly. No way. kcr Jul 2016 #121
Alrernet is a joke of a website. They trade in speculation, tinfoil hat Exilednight Jul 2016 #127
How about the Washington Post? ehrnst Jul 2016 #140
And Pro Putin and anti Obama obamanut2012 Jul 2016 #129
in favor of anything you can do to get her out of hawaii and out of her congress seat :-) msongs Jul 2016 #22
Hell yes! Great idea! PoutrageFatigue Jul 2016 #23
Hell YES! rateyes Jul 2016 #25
I'd say no. calimary Jul 2016 #26
I cannot think of anybody who would be WORSE than Tulsi Gabbard. eom MohRokTah Jul 2016 #27
I Can Me. Jul 2016 #77
Yeah, you win that obamanut2012 Jul 2016 #130
Yes, you do... brooklynite Jul 2016 #28
No. She is not a unifying figure. hrmjustin Jul 2016 #29
Another good point. LiberalFighter Jul 2016 #97
Yes. I second the motion. CentralMass Jul 2016 #31
Sigh. President Clinton will appoint the next DNC Chair. stopbush Jul 2016 #32
Yep, it will be Jamie Dimon Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #34
Why do you say that? (nt) ehrnst Jul 2016 #54
cause it made me SNORT! why not rubin, or rahm? harrrrrr Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #71
Unless he's too busy as Secretary of the Treasury. (n/t) Jim Lane Jul 2016 #120
True nt Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #126
Exactly. sarae Jul 2016 #38
Yep! Clinton will be the head of the party and has that right. Just like Obama did. LiberalFighter Jul 2016 #98
I think it will stay DB or maybe Dean will be asked back obamanut2012 Jul 2016 #131
Why? BainsBane Jul 2016 #33
Served as vice chairwoman Omaha Steve Jul 2016 #37
Opposes gun control BainsBane Jul 2016 #47
She will evolve like others have done Omaha Steve Jul 2016 #50
Seems like the point is for the party to evolve BainsBane Jul 2016 #51
Where is that list about things HRC flipped on after voting for war? Omaha Steve Jul 2016 #56
Those are Gabbard's current positions tammywammy Jul 2016 #61
She will go against her beliefs like Kaine on abortion Omaha Steve Jul 2016 #63
What evidence are you basing that on? n/t tammywammy Jul 2016 #64
She was a rising star in the party, in print in several places if you doubt it Omaha Steve Jul 2016 #66
Donna Brazile has already been announced as the interim chair. tammywammy Jul 2016 #67
She worked for Bill's election twice and was pro Hillary on CNN Omaha Steve Jul 2016 #68
At least 80% of Bernie's supporters have lined up behind Hillary. tammywammy Jul 2016 #70
IF there was an 80% that was pre the last 48 hours Omaha Steve Jul 2016 #74
You are being ridiculous. She has said what her views are. kwassa Jul 2016 #104
How did she get to be DNC Vice Chair??? Omaha Steve Jul 2016 #105
NFI kwassa Jul 2016 #108
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #73
Gabbard is far right in the Democratic Party too. LiberalFighter Jul 2016 #99
She is -- I don't get why people don't know that obamanut2012 Jul 2016 #132
Hell, it's a fight twixt ideologies to the right of Gerry Ford... Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #146
She's a DINO, way too many repug stances and anti-Obama statements on effin FOX. brush Jul 2016 #79
Repeating again how did she get to be DNC vice Chair? Omaha Steve Jul 2016 #85
How is putting an Obama basher and repug favorite as head of the party a uniting move? brush Jul 2016 #93
No. sarae Jul 2016 #36
Lololol, fuck no giftedgirl77 Jul 2016 #39
WHO ???????????? sorry i never heard of this person trueblue2007 Jul 2016 #40
It was on all the media Omaha Steve Jul 2016 #45
... sheshe2 Jul 2016 #110
ugh! one_voice Jul 2016 #41
I thought it was going to be Brandon Davis n/t TexasBushwhacker Jul 2016 #42
This Tulsi Gabbard? sheshe2 Jul 2016 #43
H Post: DNC Chair Joins GOP Attack On Elizabeth Warren’s Agency Omaha Steve Jul 2016 #49
Steve when you are deep in a hole, time to stop digging. emulatorloo Jul 2016 #55
Put her in now to unite the party to win in November Omaha Steve Jul 2016 #60
Tulsi is no olive branch. sheshe2 Jul 2016 #94
What I don't get is why all the hate for Kaine, but Gabbard, a big old DINO, is just the bees knees. kcr Jul 2016 #122
I don't get this either obamanut2012 Jul 2016 #133
Ouch, that leaves a mark, lol Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #58
Thanks for your post. Too many on this board don't realize Gabbard is an ambitious DINO who . . . brush Jul 2016 #86
yaaassss nt retrowire Jul 2016 #44
Donna Brazile, will be the interim chairwoman MerryBlooms Jul 2016 #46
Nope. Not the right kind of experience and skills. nt onehandle Jul 2016 #48
Yeah - the whole islamaphobic thing she's got going ehrnst Jul 2016 #52
And so Sayeth The Wizard! zappaman Jul 2016 #53
Not really interested in an Islamophobe in that position, thanks. TwilightZone Jul 2016 #59
no thanks. We don't need a President Obama hater as DNC chair still_one Jul 2016 #62
All those in favor say Aye------- turbinetree Jul 2016 #65
Lol.. Not going to happen. La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #69
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #72
She WAS Vice DNC Chair Omaha Steve Jul 2016 #75
She fooled a lot of people. Some are still falling for it. She's a DINO. brush Jul 2016 #89
She fooled people like you lancer78 Jul 2016 #111
Perhaps Howard Dean again? Chicago1980 Jul 2016 #78
He Was Great Me. Jul 2016 #80
Taking $ from health insurance these days Omaha Steve Jul 2016 #83
Dean is my first choice -- he was very effective as head obamanut2012 Jul 2016 #134
I like R.T. Rybak for the job dflprincess Jul 2016 #81
I don't think anything new will happen 'til after the election RandySF Jul 2016 #82
You need to say a lot more because it's a terrible idea Renew Deal Jul 2016 #84
this is some really crazy stuff about Brazille, her ties to Rove, Mehlman, and other Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #87
Larry C. Johnson and NoQuarterUSA... BklnDem75 Jul 2016 #147
How about Howard Dean? David__77 Jul 2016 #90
Ain't gonna happen. George II Jul 2016 #91
I like this idea! K & R rollin74 Jul 2016 #92
Bring back Howard Dean. luckylefty77 Jul 2016 #96
After your edit... MohRokTah Jul 2016 #100
NO. gabbard is my rep and I want her gone. She's being primaried by Cha Jul 2016 #101
Antigay extremist with an overnight redemption story bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #102
THIS THIS THIS obamanut2012 Jul 2016 #136
"Let's ally with Assad," says Gabbard. bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #139
I'm onboard, just by the replies alone in this thread. Rex Jul 2016 #103
She is all yours Rex! sheshe2 Jul 2016 #112
Well she can't do any worse then DWS did by losing us a huge number of seats. Rex Jul 2016 #114
The seat has been replaced by Donna Brazile sheshe2 Jul 2016 #115
I am fine with who is there, you can get all serious now that a DC Insider is gone Rex Jul 2016 #116
Never. Metric System Jul 2016 #106
wait...I thought you wanted a neutral head of DNC? Evergreen Emerald Jul 2016 #107
Read my OP Omaha Steve Jul 2016 #124
No Chitown879 Jul 2016 #113
Never, ever -- Pro Putin, anti Obama at best obamanut2012 Jul 2016 #128
I am baffled how you came to support a very right wing democrat as the party chair? etherealtruth Jul 2016 #137
Tulsi needs to remain unemployed Txbluedog Jul 2016 #144
Agreed. grahamhgreen Jul 2016 #145
 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
15. Just like many do not like DWS and her ways
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:13 PM
Jul 2016

But we are not allowed to state that. That is why I am for Donna Brazile.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
2. Would love it as she had the fortitude to actually resign
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:08 PM
Jul 2016

I could live with Donna Brazile for party unity.

Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Cayenne

(480 posts)
117. She's a Putin servant?
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 12:30 AM
Jul 2016

She's a veteran with a sensible aversion to war. When did the Democrats get a hankering for war with the Russians? Is this the new McCarthyism?

Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
123. She's been a member of the US Congress for 3 1/2 years...
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 01:37 AM
Jul 2016

And you think that affords her the experience to be the head of every single democratic party in the nation??? Wow... all I have to say is WOW!

Lancero

(3,004 posts)
125. She was also a past vice chair of the DNC.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 04:24 AM
Jul 2016

Considering that the DNC decided to put up Donna Brazile as intrim head for the first time despite her political experience amounting to assisting Democratic presidential campaigns and heading Gores failed campaign, and time as a vice chair it's VERY hard to argue that she was experienced when she was first made intrim chair.

The only time she assisted with a campaign that actually won was with Bill, and this was in an advisory position. Heading a campaign, well see above.

Still, Tulsi's time in congress is closer to 5 years - 02-04, then 13-16. She dropped her run after her term in 04 for a military deployment, and served as aide to Senator Akaka upon returning from 06-09, before another deployment.

Still though, you didn't bother looking up the history on ANY chair before claimed 'she'd be the least experienced in history'. Just a quick glance through the names turns up quite a few who were made chair with less experience.

brush

(53,794 posts)
138. She's bashed Obama and Dem positions too many times of FOX, and is an Islamophobe.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 09:14 AM
Jul 2016

Why would you think those are good credentials for the DNC chair?

God! Do some research.

Lancero

(3,004 posts)
142. That wasn't the claim I was going against.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 01:11 PM
Jul 2016

Their are plenty of reasons to not like her and plenty of stances that we wouldn't want in a DNC chair, but going the 'she's inexperienced' route is a load of crap.

I'd agree that some of her stances would disqualify her, but if you'd bothered reading this comment line you'd see that Firebrand isn't commenting on her political opinions but rather that 'she'd be the most inexperienced head ever'.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
57. Unless you are muslim, then you are in her crosshairs.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:02 PM
Jul 2016

"Last month she openly mocked Secretary of State John Kerry during an appearance on CNN, saying that he thinks, "if we give them [Islamic extremists] $10,000 and give them a nice place to live that somehow they're not going to be engaged in this fighting."

To Gabbard, the fact that Syria and Iraq have been through years of brutal civil war, wrecked economies and massive displacement is irrelevant; the only reason they have an extremism problem is because of Islamic theology.

But the case of Tulsi Gabbard becomes less curious and more expected once you look at her links to a different set of ethnic and religious hardliners: the Hindu nationalist Indian Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP). Since her election to Congress, Gabbard has tied herself closely to this party, which has a history of condoning hatred and violence against India's Muslim minority. Many of her stateside donors and supporters are also big supporters of this movement, which disdains secularism and promotes religious sectarianism."




http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/curious-islamophobic-politics-dem-congressmember-tulsi-gabbard

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
119. A resignation on principle outweighs particular policy differences.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 12:40 AM
Jul 2016

The DNC Chair doesn't overrule the Secretary of State on Middle Eastern affairs. I apply a different set of criteria than I do in a race for Congress or the White House.

Gabbard, having risen to a prized position in the DNC hierarchy, gave it up because she was following the dictates of her conscience. Whether you agree with what her conscience told her or not, she's demonstrated that she'd be a complete change from the get-along-go-along mentality that DWS instilled and that led to the latest email disgrace. She's just what that tattered organization needs now.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
127. Alrernet is a joke of a website. They trade in speculation, tinfoil hat
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:30 AM
Jul 2016

Conspiracies and right-wing memes in disguise of left-wing thought.

You might as well link to the Drudge Report.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
32. Sigh. President Clinton will appoint the next DNC Chair.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:29 PM
Jul 2016

She's not going to pick someone who worked against her in the primaries when there are plenty of other candidates more-suited for the job who also supported Hillary in the primaries.

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
33. Why?
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:30 PM
Jul 2016

What qualifies her?

You want the party to ramp up hostile rhetoric toward Islam? Get rid of all those pesky gun regulations? Or is it the supply side tax cutting that you want to see the party champion?

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
47. Opposes gun control
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:47 PM
Jul 2016

Is a supply sider, and thinks the Obama administration is soft on Muslims. Also a favorite of the GOP, according to the Washington Post.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/10/15/rep-tulsi-gabbard-the-democrat-that-republicans-love-and-the-dnc-cant-control/


Yeah, Debbie was just too lefty. We can't have that. Tulsi will us straight.



BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
51. Seems like the point is for the party to evolve
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:56 PM
Jul 2016

To nullify the peace treaty with Iran and get that war going. To clamp down on Muslims, and slash taxes, and ensure mere citizens don't get in the way of the all important corporate gun profits?

Or, could it be you aren't concerned at all with her position on issues or the future of the party but instead support her only because she endorsed Bernie? Does that mean the future of the party should have nothing to do with issues or ideology but be driven entirely by tribal affiliations that derive from a primary in one presidential year?

Omaha Steve

(99,669 posts)
56. Where is that list about things HRC flipped on after voting for war?
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:02 PM
Jul 2016

Gay marriage, Social Security cap, etc... Be honest!

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
61. Those are Gabbard's current positions
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:07 PM
Jul 2016

You're hoping she "evolves" in the future. What evidence do you base this hope on?

Omaha Steve

(99,669 posts)
66. She was a rising star in the party, in print in several places if you doubt it
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:17 PM
Jul 2016

IF she is so toxic how did she get to be Vice Chair of the DNC in the first place. For the good of the party.

I repeat: The term is up in January. So 6 months only. I want to beat Trump. This short term office would go a long way. Simple concept. Think about it that way. It is going to come up at the convention.

A short term olive branch after the VP pick and email (more on the way we hear) to unify the party and keep the White House.

Omaha Steve

(99,669 posts)
68. She worked for Bill's election twice and was pro Hillary on CNN
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:26 PM
Jul 2016

Do you think after the emails, locked doors, VP pick, etc in the last 48 hours that will be acceptable to the Bernie people in the party?

Put Tulsi in the seat till the term is up in Jan, and help win the White House.

The D party is far from united going into the convention. This would do a lot to bring unity! It's the smart play.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
70. At least 80% of Bernie's supporters have lined up behind Hillary.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:38 PM
Jul 2016

That may have increased since I last read an article on it. For the Bernie or Bust crowd I don't think there's anything Hillary could do to satisfy them other than step aside for Bernie. No one would have been good enough for VP. Even Warren, she would have been called a sell out or worse - just like after she endorsed Hillary.

Omaha Steve

(99,669 posts)
74. IF there was an 80% that was pre the last 48 hours
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:50 PM
Jul 2016

Hillary needs I's to win too. I'm thinking of her high resistance #'s consistently in polls..

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
104. You are being ridiculous. She has said what her views are.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:31 PM
Jul 2016

You believe, without proof of any kind, that she will change those views and "evolve" into sensible views that you and I might actually agree with. That is, of course, pure speculation.

I would remind you that there were many who said the same things about Clarence Thomas. Didn't happen.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
108. NFI
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:58 PM
Jul 2016

If you look at old "Columbo" episodes on tv, you will eventually see one where Columbo is wearing a baseball cap with the letters NFI on it. I've seen it.

My friend's brother, who was a friend of Peter Falk, wore such a cap onto the set one day. Peter asked him what NFI stood for. The brother said "No fucking idea".

Falk thought this hilarious. He asked for a hat just like it, and wore it on the show.

So, I have no fucking idea why she was vice-chair, but it does not legitimize her very bad ideas.

Response to tammywammy (Reply #67)

obamanut2012

(26,083 posts)
132. She is -- I don't get why people don't know that
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:42 AM
Jul 2016

Anti Obama, anti Muslim, Pro Putin, anti choice, anti LGBT. I think she is still rabidly anti LGBT, but did a public heel turn so she could become a DEm and get elected.

People are railing about Kaine, but he is a true progressive and has evolved on many issues, but Gabbard is an actual DINO.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
146. Hell, it's a fight twixt ideologies to the right of Gerry Ford...
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 05:06 PM
Jul 2016

The only drama is who can drone the best for benefit of upside down cats, purring before the 'tube.

Omaha Steve

(99,669 posts)
85. Repeating again how did she get to be DNC vice Chair?
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:07 PM
Jul 2016

Do you want to win in Nov. by uniting the party or not?

This is a chance to do that. It would only last until January.

brush

(53,794 posts)
93. How is putting an Obama basher and repug favorite as head of the party a uniting move?
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:18 PM
Jul 2016

She's also an Islamophobe.

Research her positions and statements for God's sake.

sheshe2

(83,808 posts)
43. This Tulsi Gabbard?
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:43 PM
Jul 2016

Who Does Tulsi Gabbard Represent?


Tulsi Gabbard has worked with many influential Republicans, the most notable of whom is billionaire Sheldon Adelson:

•Adelson gave “more than any other GOP-aligned donor” (twice the amount given by David Koch) to fund the 2014 Republican takeover of the Senate.
◦Adelson massively funds union-busting.
•Gabbard has introduced Adelson-backed legislation supportive of his business interests.
•Two days before she led a rally on May 7 for Bernie Sanders in California, Gabbard received the Champion of Freedom award at a gala in New York City, which was co-hosted and sponsored by Sheldon Adelson and his wife Miriam.


2. Why does Tulsi Gabbard use Republican talking points to criticize prominent Democrats in conservative venues?

Gabbard has received favorable coverage from Fox News, the National Review and other conservative media outlets. She’s also been the only Democrat at Republican functions and activities.

snip//


More: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/shay-chan-hodges/three-questions-about-tulsi_b_10212942.html

*************************8

You wanted DSW out and you want Tulsi?

OMFG!

Omaha Steve

(99,669 posts)
49. H Post: DNC Chair Joins GOP Attack On Elizabeth Warren’s Agency
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:50 PM
Jul 2016

Talk about working with the GOP...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/debbie-wasserman-schultz-paylenders-cfpb_us_56d4ce38e4b03260bf77e8fc

Payday lenders get a new ally.
03/01/2016 11:04 am 11:04:07 | Updated May 17, 2016

Zach Carter

WASHINGTON — Payday lenders have been gunning for the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau since the day President Barack Obama tapped Elizabeth Warren to set up the new agency. They’ve had plenty of help from congressional Republicans — longtime recipients of campaign contributions from the payday loan industry. As the CFPB has moved closer to adopting new rules to shield families from predatory lending, the GOP has assailed the agency from every conceivable angle — going after its budget, attempting to tie its hands with new layers of red tape, fomenting conspiracy theories about rogue regulators illegally shutting down businesses and launching direct attacks on payday loan rules themselves.

To date, the GOP blitz has resulted in a few close shaves for the young agency, but no actual defeats. But the industry has cultivated a powerful new ally in recent weeks: Democratic National Committee Chair Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.).

Wasserman Schultz is co-sponsoring a new bill that would gut the CFPB’s forthcoming payday loan regulations. She’s also attempting to gin up Democratic support for the legislation on Capitol Hill, according to a memo obtained by The Huffington Post.

FULL story at link

emulatorloo

(44,133 posts)
55. Steve when you are deep in a hole, time to stop digging.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:01 PM
Jul 2016

As far as I can tell Gabbard's actual positions are the exact opposite of things you support.

I agree she's very fiery etc.

But an islamaphobe, supply sider, against gun control? That is so not you.

It is ok to say 'I was mistaken' and no one will think any less of you.

Omaha Steve

(99,669 posts)
60. Put her in now to unite the party to win in November
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:06 PM
Jul 2016

The term is up in January. So 6 months only. I want to beat Trump. This short term office would go a long way. Simple concept. Think about it that way. It is going to come up at the convention.

A short term olive branch after the VP pick and email (more on the way we hear) to unify the party and keep the White House.

sheshe2

(83,808 posts)
94. Tulsi is no olive branch.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:18 PM
Jul 2016

What issues do you have with the VP pick?!!!!!! FFS! It was brilliant. You all will never be happy. IMHO. Warren NEVER wanted that slot.

kcr

(15,317 posts)
122. What I don't get is why all the hate for Kaine, but Gabbard, a big old DINO, is just the bees knees.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 01:01 AM
Jul 2016

Does not compute.

obamanut2012

(26,083 posts)
133. I don't get this either
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:43 AM
Jul 2016

Kaine actually is a progressive, and has actually evolved on many social issues.

brush

(53,794 posts)
86. Thanks for your post. Too many on this board don't realize Gabbard is an ambitious DINO who . . .
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:07 PM
Jul 2016

has bashed Obama and Dem policies many times on FOX and other right wing outlets.

Don't get why progressives are pushing this DINO.

TwilightZone

(25,472 posts)
59. Not really interested in an Islamophobe in that position, thanks.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:06 PM
Jul 2016

A Fox News darling for DNC chair doesn't seem like a terribly good idea.

Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

 

lancer78

(1,495 posts)
111. She fooled people like you
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:08 PM
Jul 2016

with her support of Sanders, but she is nothing more than a female version of Trump.

Omaha Steve

(99,669 posts)
83. Taking $ from health insurance these days
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:04 PM
Jul 2016

Howard Dean is the latest in a string of Hillary Clinton supporters to say that Bernie Sanders is wrong to...


Do we want to bring Bernie D's and I's back to voting the ticket?


dflprincess

(28,080 posts)
81. I like R.T. Rybak for the job
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:01 PM
Jul 2016

former mayor of Minneapolis, current associate chair of the DNC and, apparently, not that impressed by DWS.

Might be good to make a complete break from her tenure.


http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/10/15/top-party-official-accuses-democratic-national-chairwoman-of-lying-questions-her-leadership/?_r=0
[div class="excerpt"
R.T. Rybak, the former mayor of Minneapolis and a vice chairman of the Democratic National Committee, on Thursday accused the party’s leader, Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz, of making “flat-out not true” statements about another top party officer, questioned her political skills and said he had “serious questions” about her suitability for the job.

The broadside from Mr. Rybak, which came in an interview late Thursday afternoon, followed weeks of internal party dissension over the number and timing of the presidential debates it has scheduled, capped by an acrimonious public dispute over whether Ms. Wasserman Schultz had punitively barred a Democratic vice chairwoman, Tulsi Gabbard, from the first debate, held on Tuesday in Las Vegas.

Renew Deal

(81,866 posts)
84. You need to say a lot more because it's a terrible idea
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:05 PM
Jul 2016

Unless she wants to give up her house seat. The DNC chair is a full time job. It should not be held by a presently elected official. That includes DWS.

And besides that, the DNC and Hillary don't owe Bernie and his supporters anything.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
87. this is some really crazy stuff about Brazille, her ties to Rove, Mehlman, and other
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:09 PM
Jul 2016

repugs

pretty long, and hard to swallow, but with (apparently) documentation in the spots it touts the Rove connection

lots of sickening stuff, if true, but how does one know what to believe anymore.

I was for Gabbard (being a typical repug, zero info news consumer on Gabbard), til I read her apparently substantiated CV, which if accurate, takes her out of my consideration

never cared for Brazille, cause I thought she was ineffective, especially on TV.

but this Rove thing, as well as lots of other stuff, like cozying up to bush in the aftermath of Katrina, turns my stomach.

again, who knows how accurate it is, but check it out:

http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/3797/the-donna-brazile-karl-rove-connection/

larry c. Johnson....remember him? considered a hero by many here for standing up to the BFEE time and time again, a classmate of Valerie Plame.

soooo.....I found this, which makes one wonder if he's gone off the deep end. save both these articles for when you have some time.....both very interesting, both eyebrow raising. again, if accurate, shows him to be an anti0bama zealot, perhaps gone off the deep end, perhaps, like Brazille looking for some bread-buttering:

http://prospect.org/article/larry-johnsons-strange-trip

BklnDem75

(2,918 posts)
147. Larry C. Johnson and NoQuarterUSA...
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 01:08 AM
Jul 2016

Remember the 'whitey tape' accusation made against Michelle Obama? Same guy, same website.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
100. After your edit...
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:26 PM
Jul 2016

I'm even more opposed to the idea of Tulsi Gabbard. NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!

Why are you so down on Donna Brazile? She's already got the job and you want to fire her already.

Tulsi Gabbard burned her bridges in the party. She will NEVER be DNC Chair.

Cha

(297,368 posts)
101. NO. gabbard is my rep and I want her gone. She's being primaried by
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:27 PM
Jul 2016

someone who cares about our District.

gabbard is a gratuitous basher of President Obama and I told her I didn't want anymore of her damn emails.

The Curious Islamophobic Politics of Dem Congressmember Tulsi Gabbard

She's particularly a favorite of right-wing media. Appearing with Fox's Neil Cavuto last week, she lashed out at the White House for holding an extremism summit with Muslim Americans, saying it's a “diversion from what our real focus needs to be. And that focus is on that Islamic extremist threat.” She criticized Obama for saying that “poverty, lack of access to jobs, lack of access to education” is contributing to radicalization. “They are not fueled by materialistic motivation, it's actually a theological, this radical Islamic ideology,” she said, throwing red meat to Fox viewers.
http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/curious-islamophobic-politics-dem-congressmember-tulsi-gabbard

bluedye33139

(1,474 posts)
102. Antigay extremist with an overnight redemption story
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:28 PM
Jul 2016

The religious sect that has given her all of her opinions is one of the most anti-gay organizations anywhere. She would leap from her chair and scream at gay people at her first city office or accuse strangers of being secret homosexual extremists! And then she said that one day she had a vision or visionary experience commanding her to be kind to gays? It's an insane story, and I despise her. Her handlers persuaded her to tone down the insane gay material, but I'd never have believed that she changed.

obamanut2012

(26,083 posts)
136. THIS THIS THIS
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:46 AM
Jul 2016

She wanted to get elected, so had an overnight heel turn. Still anti Obama, Pro Putin, loathes Muslims, the GOPers love her. Gag.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
114. Well she can't do any worse then DWS did by losing us a huge number of seats.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:18 PM
Jul 2016

Thanks for the link.

sheshe2

(83,808 posts)
115. The seat has been replaced by Donna Brazile
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:38 PM
Jul 2016

You want Tulsi to replace her as well?

Tulsi


3. Why does Tulsi Gabbard support anti-immigrant and anti-refugee policies?


The second Congressional District of Hawaii is known for aloha, acceptance, and support of diversity. Our district’s first representative was Patsy Mink, the first woman of color in Congress. Thirty years later, we sent Mazie Hirono, a Buddhist and an immigrant, to DC. And Congresswoman Gabbard herself was the first Hindu in Congress.


As a progressive, and as stated on his website, Bernie Sanders “opposes Republican-led efforts to block Syrian refugees from coming to the US and says the US, Europe, and the Persian gulf states have a moral obligation to welcome Syrian refugees.”

•Yet on November 19, 2015, Gabbard voted with 46 Democrats and 242 Republicans to pass HR 4038 - the American SAFE Act of 2015, to institute a stronger screening process for refugees from Iraq and Syria who apply for admission to the U.S.


•Previously, in 2014, Gabbard called for visa waivers to be curtailed from European countries with “Islamic extremist” populations - specifically Britain, Germany, and France. (A year later, Donald Trump called for a ban on Muslims entering the US.)



More recently, Gabbard seems to be modifying her views on international policy and inclusiveness, presenting a message of aloha and progressive anti-war values in her March video supporting Bernie Sanders, “The Cost of War.”


Which leads me to a fourth question: What does Tulsi Gabbard really stand for?


As the mother of two sons who are old enough to join the military and are voting for the first time this election, these questions are not theoretical. They require answers — not carefully-crafted imagery.

more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/shay-chan-hodges/three-questions-about-tulsi_b_10212942.html


She is yours then, you have changed.
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
116. I am fine with who is there, you can get all serious now that a DC Insider is gone
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:39 PM
Jul 2016

I frankly don't care or believe all this crying over the departure of DWS. She is going to be fine. Glad she was replaced.

obamanut2012

(26,083 posts)
128. Never, ever -- Pro Putin, anti Obama at best
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:37 AM
Jul 2016

I still think she is violently anti LGBT -- she only changed to get elected.

I want Howard Dean back.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
137. I am baffled how you came to support a very right wing democrat as the party chair?
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 08:19 AM
Jul 2016

I am not a fan of DWS .... attacking her record (justifiably) doesn't promote Gabbard in the least. It simply points to DWS poor job.

Please point to Gabbard's record indicating she would be a good leader, fund raiser and unifying party member? I can't find anything that would indicate this. she is very personable and charismatic which is a pohttps://www.votetulsi.com/node/846sitive; however, she votes far too often with and in support of republicans She sided with the republicans on "Obama care" https://www.votetulsi.com/node/846 .... sided with republicans on refugees http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/11/19/1452134/-These-47-Democrats-Just-Voted-to-Send-Syrian-Refugees-Back-to-their-Imminent-Death

I could cite many, many more. I don't want Gabbard anywhere near the Democratic Party platform.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/10/15/rep-tulsi-gabbard-the-democrat-that-republicans-love-and-the-dnc-cant-control/ , http://thatsmycongress.com/house/ .... I can't find a source that identifies her as anything but as a conservative ....?


How did she get to be vice chair of the DNC (a mantra you seem to parrot over and over again....?) .... the same way DWS became chair????? This is an irrelevant point. Indicating the absence of an argument for her qualifications.


If you have any information that would speak to Gabbard's qualities and qualifications please present them (ie indications that she is a strong democrat, fund raising successes for the party, strong leadership) please provide (attacking others does not present a case for her, tired mantras do not provide a case for her .... please provide solid information)


I would like to see Jennifer Granholm chairing the party .... in another discussion I can provide with ease her fundraising, organizational and experiential qualifications.

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