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Justice

(7,188 posts)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:52 PM Jul 2016

Remembering recorded call among House GOP that was leaked to media in 1997

In late 1996, Florida couple (Martins) recorded call among John Boehner, GOP Majority Leader Dick Armey, GOP Whip Tom Delay, New York Congressman Bill Paxon, and House Speaker Newt Gingrich, strategizing about how to undercut the ethics committee's case against the speaker.

Martins then hand-delivered a tape of the cell-phone conversation to Rep. Jim McDermott (D-Wash.), the ranking Democrat on the bipartisan ethics committee. A transcript appeared in the New York Times, attributed to a Democratic congressman hostile to Gingrich.

Federal and state anti-wiretapping laws make it illegal to eavesdrop on cell-phone calls, and it also is illegal to pass on the contents of illegally intercepted phone conversations. Martins later pleaded guilty to a federal wiretap violation charge and were fined.
Boehner then sued McDermott for disclosing an "illegally intercepted" call under the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. McDermott ultimately had significant judgement against him.

What's interesting is there was very little fall-out over the conspiring substance of the conversation and those that participated in it. Gingrich wasn't forced to resign - he remained as speaker until November 1998 - and was ousted only after the GOP lost seats in the election.

Hacking the DNC server and stealing emails is a crime. Someone did it and should be prosecuted. Early investigations indicate operatives connected with Russia. Let's not let the substance of the emails be the only story - let's make sure the crime of stealing them is also a story that is heard.

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Remembering recorded call among House GOP that was leaked to media in 1997 (Original Post) Justice Jul 2016 OP
Funny how that works out.... Wounded Bear Jul 2016 #1
Let's be more specific. ret5hd Jul 2016 #2
Let's not change the OP. Both aspects matter. Justice Jul 2016 #3
dan rather...mary mapes....Bush AWOL Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #4
Does US law apply in Russia? Exilednight Jul 2016 #5

Wounded Bear

(58,666 posts)
1. Funny how that works out....
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:55 PM
Jul 2016

When Dems are hacked, it's all about the content.

When Repubs are hacked, it's all about the legalitiy of the action.

ret5hd

(20,495 posts)
2. Let's be more specific.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:43 PM
Jul 2016

When Repugs are hacked, we attempt to make it about the content but the Repubs, with 24 hr talk-radio and other Repub controlled media saturation succeed in making the public discourse focus on the illegality.

When Dems are hacked, we hypocritically try to make it about the illegality, and the Repubs (using the same aforementioned tactics) hypocritically make it about the content.

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