Pope wants some nuns to get off their lazy asses

[packman]

"... Seeking the Face of God“ (a Papal procolamation) on women’s contemplative life, the Pope praised these sisters to the sky for their “life of complete self-giving,” noting that their contemplative life “produces a rich harvest of grace and mercy.”

But then the Vatican went into micro-management mode. The Pope focused on twelve areas of contemplative life, including how the nuns recruit, pray and use the Internet, among other things. The Vatican will be issuing more detailed instructions, and monasteries will have to revise their rules to adapt.

I understand the Pope feels these mandates are important. He writes that contemplatives can succumb to the “subtle temptations” of “listlessness, mere routine, lack of enthusiasm and paralyzing lethargy.”

Well, Sister Mary may have an issue with that




Listen Francis, what goes on in the cloister, stays in the cloister.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/celia-wexler/pope-francis-tightens-the_b_11157162.html

[obamanut2012]

1. Then pay them a pension like you do priests

[TexasProgresive]

2. Men nor women in religious orders get a pension from the diocese

They are supposed to be self supporting.

[obamanut2012]

4. Nope, priests get retirement

Nuns don't.

[TexasProgresive]

6. Priests in religious orders do not

only diocesan priests. No one in a religious order gets a pension from any source outside of their order.Religious orders are semi-autonomous and self-supporting. Diocesan priests and deacons are under the direct control of their bishop and are not affiliated with a religious order. Nuns, sisters, brothers, monks and priests who are in religious orders, i.e. Jesuits, Franciscans, Poor Clares, Maryknoll, etc. work in a diocese at the permission of the bishop but not directly for the diocese.

I know you want to paint that nuns get the short end of the stick as opposed to priests, but this is apples and tuna salad.

[Warpy]

3. Uh, Francis? Those women work harder than you ever thought of doing

They don't have other women to clean up after them like male churchmen do, for instance, and it takes one hell of a lot more effort to live and work when the church is too stingy to support their work properly, making them beg for scraps.

It's just one more example of the hierarchy's total blindness to half the human race. Not only are they blind, they resist every attempt to pry their eyes open.

And they wonder why I left.

[GOLGO 13]

5. I'm a CINO.

This new guy is better than the Nazi but he's got a ways to go yet.

[TexasProgresive]

7. The headline does not do Francis justice

What he is saying is pretty much what St. Teresa of Avila thought about her order of Carmelites. Some say that taking a vow of poverty as do contemplatives means you have it all. Anyway St. Teresa went on to reform the Carmelite orders with St. John of the Cross forming the Discalsed Carmelites. The OCDS is much stricter than the OCarms.

Francis is speaking of women in enclosed orders. These are not nuns on a bus or nuns cleaning up after men. They have chosen to live apart from the world with the mission of living a live devoted to lifting up the rest of us in prayer. These women are known as nuns. Women in religious orders who work in the world are sisters. They are the ones we see teaching, nursing and generally ministering to the poor, the uneducated and the sick and dying. Think of Mother Teresa and you have a sister not a nun.

These same things apply to religious orders for men. Some are enclosed like the Trappists. A most famous monk of this order was the late Fr. Thomas Merton author of The Seven Story Mountain among other books and poetry. Fr. Daniel Berrigan was a member of the Society of Jesus, the Jesuits. He is famous among progressive Catholics for his anti-war, anti-nuclear weapons and generally always acting on the right side of things. He even has his on Ben and Jerry's ice cream flavor, Raspberrigan. He also was given a life time ticket for as much ice cream as he wanted.