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imanamerican63

(13,800 posts)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:27 PM Jul 2016

What was the DNC thinking?

It was going to be a good convention for the Dems and now it is over shadowed by these emails being leaked! Not good! Hope Sanders will not be the spoiler, but he has every right to! We need to come together and defeat the GOP & the phony Trump!

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What was the DNC thinking? (Original Post) imanamerican63 Jul 2016 OP
Good question! n/t DirkGently Jul 2016 #1
"Sanders says leaked DNC emails don't change his support for Clinton" emulatorloo Jul 2016 #3
Good! He has a big part to play and will make a good example for his supporters! imanamerican63 Jul 2016 #4
How does that make the DNC look better? DirkGently Jul 2016 #8
Stop projecting statements on me I didn't say. The question was about Sanders' reaction. emulatorloo Jul 2016 #10
The question was "What was the DNC thinking?" DirkGently Jul 2016 #12
Yeah, I guess my concern was with the notion in OP Sanders would be a spoiler. emulatorloo Jul 2016 #15
Several threads on Sanders' reaction. Here's one emulatorloo Jul 2016 #2
I think those culpable (btw, not EVERYONE in the DNC) thought they'd got away free and clear HereSince1628 Jul 2016 #5
They will get away free and clear... vi5 Jul 2016 #6
True. The act of falling on a political sword, is for the most part, an act. HereSince1628 Jul 2016 #9
They were thinking Their Girl had to get in Warpy Jul 2016 #7
This sort of thing shouldn't just bother Sanders supporters HereSince1628 Jul 2016 #19
Exactly. It's bad for everyone REP Jul 2016 #21
The DNC was thinking of pushing the strongest candidate forward. JohnnyRingo Jul 2016 #11
Does a 'strong candidate' need to be pushed? n/t leftstreet Jul 2016 #13
Yes JohnnyRingo Jul 2016 #17
My issues are why were the email sent out, not with Sanders. imanamerican63 Jul 2016 #14
Thank you, this is really such a non-issue at this point. Just another way to keep R B Garr Jul 2016 #16
Or using fewer words, cheating quaker bill Jul 2016 #23
The DNC is composed of individuals. Some were upfront about their support of Clinton. randome Jul 2016 #18
I disagree, news lasts all of two weeks unless the GOP makes a stink about something in which Rex Jul 2016 #20
DWS was thinking.. coco77 Jul 2016 #22

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
8. How does that make the DNC look better?
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:48 PM
Jul 2016

No one's surprised Sanders has the good grace to keep his word and be supportive of Clinton.

It's not going to appease the millions of people who donated and now have to ask whether money and resources were apportioned contrary to the stated way the party is supposed to work.

Republicans think that as long as everybody consents, any kind of impropriety or dishonesty is okey dokey. It's the logic of entitlement.

We're supposed to be smarter than that.

emulatorloo

(44,131 posts)
10. Stop projecting statements on me I didn't say. The question was about Sanders' reaction.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:51 PM
Jul 2016

I provided a link to Sanders' reaction.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
12. The question was "What was the DNC thinking?"
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:54 PM
Jul 2016

As an aside, the OP wondered how Sanders would react.

I'm glad we agree Sanders' grace in remaining supportive doesn't get the DNC off the hook though.

emulatorloo

(44,131 posts)
15. Yeah, I guess my concern was with the notion in OP Sanders would be a spoiler.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:59 PM
Jul 2016

I'm super sensitive to any suggestion that Bernie would do anything like that. Because he never would! Way too much integrity and he knows that Trump must be kept out of the WH.

I have my own opinions about this leak, they may differ from yours. But bottom line is DWS has to go.



On edit, DWS is out!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141529053

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
6. They will get away free and clear...
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:44 PM
Jul 2016

..Does anyone think the people who look shitty out of all of this will be held accountable?

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
9. True. The act of falling on a political sword, is for the most part, an act.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:50 PM
Jul 2016

And it's often seen as an act of loyalty to others, who will in their own quiet way, provide a reward.

Warpy

(111,275 posts)
7. They were thinking Their Girl had to get in
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:45 PM
Jul 2016

and they were willing to pull every string and do dirty tricks to make sure she did. Rabid partisanship blinded them to their jobs, their principles, and to democracy itself.

This is nothing against Clinton, who was likely unaware of this garbage, she had enough on her plate running around the country from primary to caucus and back again. However, it will taint her victory with the distinct stench of antidemocratic machinations, things Lee Atwater would be proud of.

Shame on them. They need to go.

For the record, I never expected Sanders to win. I wanted him to make enough of a showing to affect the party platform, and he did that. That was enough of a win for me and I support Clinton as the nominee.

However, this sort of thing will give the equally rabid Sanders supporters ammunition against her. We don't need that. A clean win would most likely have happened and that would have solidified support.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
19. This sort of thing shouldn't just bother Sanders supporters
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 06:15 PM
Jul 2016

This was undemocratic pathology at the highest level of the Democratic Party and it impacted a procress that millions of democratic and democratic leaning voters had assurances would be completely fair.

The wrongness shouldn't be a dialectic whose badness depends upon which campaign looks at it.

REP

(21,691 posts)
21. Exactly. It's bad for everyone
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 07:29 PM
Jul 2016

It hurts the party as a whole, not just those who supported losing candidates. Why get involved, donate time and money if it's already been decided?

JohnnyRingo

(18,636 posts)
11. The DNC was thinking of pushing the strongest candidate forward.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:53 PM
Jul 2016

I'm actually surprised you asked.

Too many people downplay Sanders' socialist platform, as if the Republicans would never dare compare him to a Communist all the way to November. The name "Comrade Bernie" would have been on the ballot if they could get away with it.

Stop pretending a majority of Americans would rally behind a socialist party.

JohnnyRingo

(18,636 posts)
17. Yes
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:04 PM
Jul 2016

Because a winning primary candidate is not necessarily a shoe-in for the general election and Sanders was garnering support from a demo that had a spotty record of voting. The Republicans would have eaten him alive after the primary dust settled.

Imagine if Dennis Kucinich had bungled his way to a primary win in 2008. There wouldn't be Dept Of Peace today, it would be supplanted by The Dept of You Betcha Gotta War

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
16. Thank you, this is really such a non-issue at this point. Just another way to keep
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:00 PM
Jul 2016

his name and some faux outrage kicked up.

quaker bill

(8,224 posts)
23. Or using fewer words, cheating
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:21 PM
Jul 2016

If you want to push a candidate forward, you join their campaign. If you wish to be a neutral arbiter of fair election process, you work for the DNC. That is what the rules say.

The super delegates are free to put their thumbs on the scale, but this is not the function of DNC staff.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
18. The DNC is composed of individuals. Some were upfront about their support of Clinton.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:07 PM
Jul 2016

Some were upfront about their support for Sanders. No one working for an organization like the DNC should be trying to tilt the scale one way or the other but human beings are never good at behaving robotically.
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Rex

(65,616 posts)
20. I disagree, news lasts all of two weeks unless the GOP makes a stink about something in which
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 06:18 PM
Jul 2016

case the media begs them to feed em a narrative. This will be old news by next weeks Friday news dump. The GOP has far bigger problems right now.

Besides they got rid of the bad apples, so now we can move on to a clean convention.

 

coco77

(1,327 posts)
22. DWS was thinking..
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 07:35 PM
Jul 2016

its her turn and woman power. She also thought everyone would follow along because the Democratic party tells us how to vote and we do what they tell us to do and we would not question her authority.

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