Assange Employs a Holocaust Denier and Putin Ally to Lie About His Rape Charge.....

[msanthrope]

Not for anything, but DU knew what Assange was, about his ties to Putin, and about his disgusting anti-Semitism, years ago.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026388527

[Hissyspit]

1. And most of that was debunked years ago.

But you know that.

[msanthrope]

2. What, precisely was debunked? That Israel Shamir and his son are Wikileaks

Employees? No.

That Shamir is a Holocaust denier? No.

That Shamir has close ties to Putin? No.

Katha Pollitt is wrong? NO....here's what she wrote about Shamir.....

And everyone who believes and promotes the "information" that "Miss A" is a CIA "honeytrap" is an anti-Semite and a Holocaust denier. Because the original source for that story is one Israel Shamir, writing in Counterpunch and vigorously defended by Counterpunch editor and Nation columnist Alexander Cockburn, who also belittles the accusations as "unsafe sex and failure to phone his date the following day." I spent a few hours onwww.israelshamir.net and learned that: "the Jews" foisted capitalism, advertising and consumerism on harmonious and modest Christian Europe; were behind Stalin’s famine in Ukraine; control the banks, the media and many governments; and that "Palestine is not the ultimate goal of the Jews; the world is." There are numerous guest articles by Holocaust deniers, aka "historical revisionists." We have now produced on the left an echo chamber like that on the far right, where the scurrilous charges of marginal fanatics are disseminated through electronic media and end up, cleansed of their original associations, as respectable opinion.

https://www.thenation.com/article/case-julian-assange/

Well, if that last sentence doesn't describe JPR, I don't know what does.

[sufrommich]

4. Yep,that describes them to a T. nt

[msanthrope]

6. I'm betting the Venn diagram of Assange rape deniers (blue)

and those who post on a website that thinks the c-word is appropriate to use to describe women (red) would be nearly a perfect purple circle.

What's saddest? Women. Women posting on a site like that..

I dunno....maybe it's Stockholm Syndrome.

[newthinking]

5. There seems to be a meme on.

[msanthrope]

7. Yes.....I used a time machine to go back to 2015 to write an OP exposing Assange.

Or, maybe, he's just an anti-Semite.

[bravenak]

27. +1

[Tarheel_Dem]

3. K&R!

[Mosby]

8. His Jewish Problem

Outside my window in Moscow everything is frozen, the thick ice-coated ground, the wind whining through alleys between the gray apartment buildings that stick out from 5-foot bases of hard snow, the orange dump trucks full of snow chugging along the street. Seven floors down, men in blue and orange overalls and black snowcaps are smashing the 3-inch-thick layers of ice coating the sidewalks with wooden-handled-and-metal-ended ice picks. Then there’s me, waiting in my thermals for the supposed Russian representative of WikiLeaks, a man who says his name is Israel Shamir, but who is also known as Jöran Jermas, and Adam Ermash, and who spends his time between Sweden, Israel, and Russia.

I have spent too much time in the paranoid corners where Shamir’s articles appear, on websites that claim the Jews planned the attacks of Sept. 11, Jews convinced the George W. Bush Administration to go to war in the Middle East, Jews have nuclear weapons not to just destroy Lebanon and Iraq and Syria, but Europe, too. Shamir says he was born in Novosibirsk, Siberia, in 1947 to Jewish parents but in 2004 was baptized into the Greek Orthodox Church of Jerusalem. While he claims to be a Palestinian activist, a believer in the “One State Solution,” his work reads more like right-wing anti-Semitic propaganda. He writes and speaks about the existence of “Jewish Media Lords” who have hijacked newspapers and TV to brainwash Americans into carrying out “Judaic goals,” which include the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. As he writes in one of his books, Cabbala of Power, “The Jewish ‘plan’ is no secret; there is no need to re-read The Protocols or to ask Jews what they want.” In addition to having accused Israel of all manner of crimes, he has also been labeled a Holocaust-denier by both Israelis and Palestinians.

Shamir and I first corresponded via email four months ago. After he canceled a planned interview in February, we began talking on the phone every week, but he still refused to schedule an interview. The most he would promise me is that if I come to Moscow and called him, he might meet me, but then again he might not. “Things are getting very complicated,” he explained. “All I might have is an hour.”

The day before I left New York for Moscow, I bumped into Norman Finkelstein, a scholar and Holocaust-doubter who was denied tenure at DePaul University because of his published work, The Holocaust Industry, which claims the factual account of mass-extermination has been exploited so Jews can “gain immunity to criticism.” I had emailed Finkelstein early in February, after Shamir told me they were friends. Finkelstein wrote back, “I want nothing to do with this article. (Shamir) is a maniac.” So, when on another day on Gravesend Neck Road in Brooklyn outside of a closed-down Russian Apteka, I saw a tall man with gray thin hair wearing a brown corduroy blazer with a Palestinian flag pin on his lapel, I recognized him as Finkelstein and approached. As two young boys ran past us wearing kippas, he elaborated on his email: “He’s sleazy—Shamir said we were friends because he’s sleazy, and that’s just the tip of the iceberg,” he stated while his nose ran in the February wind. “He has invented his entire personal history. Nothing he says about himself is true. And you won’t get this article published anywhere.”

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/67305/his-jewish-problem

[msanthrope]

9. That's him. Shamir, the Wikileaks employee and Putin stooge. nt

[Mosby]

10. Even Finkelstein thinks he's a scumbag. nt

[Rex]

11. Is he still hiding out in an embassy?

He should go to court and get it over with already, hiding doesn't really help his cause much.

[runaway hero]

12. DWS is gone

you can't change that.


the fact these guys are awful doesn't make her less awful.

[msanthrope]

14. Yes.....comparing someone you disagree with politically to a rapist and a Holocaust denier....

Seriously?

[runaway hero]

16. You guys keep talking about trump

We're supposed to defeat the guy. But you need a working party to do that. These emails show the kinks in the DNC. Which is why she's gone.


It's for the better. Hillary doesn't need her.

[msanthrope]

17. No...DWS isn't needed. Nor are Putin bootlickers. nt

[runaway hero]

18. Deflection

Again, if Rubio was running this still would have come out.

[msanthrope]

19. Suggesting that there is not a Putin/Trump connection? Why? nt

[runaway hero]

20. Did I say that

I said it doesn't erase the event. This was going to come out either way.


Stop supporting DWS

[msanthrope]

21. I didn't mention DWS in my OP...you brought her up. I'm not surprised that Putin/Trump

worked together.

[runaway hero]

22. You didn't because you can't face the reality of what happened.

People like DWS will lose this election.

[msanthrope]

23. Not anymore. nt

[Blue_Tires]

13. Epic kick!

[tammywammy]

15. Israel Shamir is a disgusting piece of shit.

As is any poster supporting/quoting him.

[Scurrilous]

24. K & R

[Dawson Leery]

25. Assange/Snowden/Manning are not ones who

ones that should be admired.

[Dreamer Tatum]

26. Oh, NOW he's a rapist.

And an anti Semite to boot.

Got it.

[bravenak]

28. He is

I wont defend him

[Marr]

29. Oh, I know-- you're very troubled by antisemitism.

So to speak.

Still, points for chutzpah, I guess.

[PoutrageFatigue]

30. ROFLMAO!!!!