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malaise

(269,054 posts)
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 10:00 AM Jul 2016

Don the Con Jr. plagiarized Buckley last night

For the second night in a row, a speech given by a member of Donald Trump's family is raising eyebrows for lines previously used elsewhere.

Donald Trump Jr. in his headline address at the Republican National Convention in Cleveland delivered a near-exact repetition of a small part of an American Conservative article written by F.H. Buckley, titled "Trump vs. the New Class."

"Our schools used to be an elevator to the middle class. Now they're stalled on the ground floor. They're like Soviet-Era Department stores that are run for the benefit of the clerks and not the customers," Trump's son said in his speech Tuesday night.

The line in Buckley's article reads, "Our schools and universities are like the old Soviet department stores whose mission was to serve the interests of the sales clerks and not the customers."

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/2016-conventions/donald-trump-jr-s-speechwriter-defends-recycling-lines-rnc-n612976

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Don the Con Jr. plagiarized Buckley last night (Original Post) malaise Jul 2016 OP
WAY!!! femmocrat Jul 2016 #1
Not William F. Buckley rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #2
Nail everything down, grifters will be after it. lonestarnot Jul 2016 #3
Not really - Buckley was the author of the speech. C_U_L8R Jul 2016 #4
I would argue that it it is a form of plagiarism mythology Jul 2016 #6
Interesting - and yes, not really as bad as Melania's C_U_L8R Jul 2016 #7
Did he do the accent too? Cuz that would be way classier than his dad's professional wrestler one. yurbud Jul 2016 #5

C_U_L8R

(45,003 posts)
4. Not really - Buckley was the author of the speech.
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 10:57 AM
Jul 2016

You may say he was lazy for cutting and pasting and repurposing his own work.
But not truly plagiarism.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
6. I would argue that it it is a form of plagiarism
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 11:44 AM
Jul 2016

Even if an author is citing themselves they should give attribution, especially in an instance where the actual author isn't the one reading the speech. That is even more true when there was a previous plagiarism instance at the convention. It's just needlessly sloppy.

Yes it's less of an issue than the previous incident, but it's still appropriating somebody else's words as his own without sufficiently clear attribution.

C_U_L8R

(45,003 posts)
7. Interesting - and yes, not really as bad as Melania's
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 12:35 PM
Jul 2016

Unbelievably they're still denying they stole Mrs Obama's speech.
What jerks.

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