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bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 11:56 PM Jul 2016

Twitter permanently bans Milo Yiannopoulos

I won't put on DU what I'm saying to myself about "Nero" right now. It would likely get me tombstoned.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/charliewarzel/twitter-just-permanently-suspended-conservative-writer-milo?utm_term=.hq4ezkpw7#.lsaGYkPKp

Twitter has banned one of its most notoriously contentious voices. On Tuesday evening, the microblogging service permanently suspended the account of conservative commentator Milo Yiannopoulos, a day after he incited his followers to bombard Ghostbusters star Leslie Jones with racist and demeaning tweets.

Yiannopoulos, who currently serves as Breitbart.com’s tech editor, has been hailed as a voice of the new “alt-right” movement. As such, he has made a living as a provocateur, continually inflaming tensions between progressive branches of the internet focused on identity politics and the fervently anti-PC segment that constantly trolls it. For years, Yiannopoulous has used Twitter not only to voice his controversial opinions, but to direct his legion of followers (388,042 at the time of this writing) toward his opponents. As a result, he’s been temporarily banned from Twitter a number of times for violating its terms of service and stripped of his verification.

mroe

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Twitter permanently bans Milo Yiannopoulos (Original Post) bluestateguy Jul 2016 OP
YAAAAY! JaneyVee Jul 2016 #1
Trump will wish Twitter had banned what he still defends! images, news and a short movie Jeffersons Ghost Jul 2016 #22
He is pretending to be something he isn't to get publicity scscholar Jul 2016 #2
Who chooses when you need to be silenced? tritsofme Jul 2016 #4
Twitter, when Bluestateguy violates their rules Skittles Jul 2016 #11
The implication from that poster seemed more nefarious than a ban on Twitter tritsofme Jul 2016 #15
he's been silenced on Twitter Skittles Jul 2016 #18
he hasn't been silenced dlwickham Jul 2016 #6
That applies to many "Conservative" talking scumbags beginning with... 63splitwindow Jul 2016 #10
no, he repeatedly harassed others, and they stopped his behavior geek tragedy Jul 2016 #24
Huh? Marr Jul 2016 #55
I just saw what he did to that poor actress... tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #3
Niiiice! Nt MrScorpio Jul 2016 #5
Excellent! Initech Jul 2016 #7
Leslie Jones still needs to sue that creep. Onyrleft Jul 2016 #8
I think the idea of a Ghostbusters remake is dumb Nevernose Jul 2016 #9
Good. herding cats Jul 2016 #12
What he did to Leslie Jones KT2000 Jul 2016 #13
Him and his alt-right closeted self-hating freaks can fuck off! Crowman1979 Jul 2016 #14
Poor baby. Troll gets TS from twitter. Breitbart spawn is bound to fail. Rex Jul 2016 #16
Being banned from twitter is like not being able to order Domino's pizza ever again. LuvLoogie Jul 2016 #17
How so? nt ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2016 #39
I'll give it a try kcr Jul 2016 #45
Plus, Twitter isn't the government. trotsky Jul 2016 #48
True deathrind Jul 2016 #53
I hate that Hollywood has no new ideas awoke_in_2003 Jul 2016 #19
No new ideas unless they came out of comic books Warpy Jul 2016 #20
I think originality is somewhat overrated, what should matter is decent writing of the details... Humanist_Activist Jul 2016 #21
Dredd was a great movie Action_Patrol Jul 2016 #30
Magnificent film. Orrex Jul 2016 #34
It's a film that would benefit Action_Patrol Jul 2016 #38
Yes indeed Orrex Jul 2016 #40
Apparently everyone involved still wants to be Action_Patrol Jul 2016 #41
I feel the same way about Broadway and live theater in general Orrex Jul 2016 #25
Yeah because Hamilton is such a boring and redundant piece, The Book of Mormon is just Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #31
Equally, all films are not sequels or remakes. Orrex Jul 2016 #32
It is really a shame they have no new ideas... Glassunion Jul 2016 #42
When I take a roll - I like to jonno99 Jul 2016 #51
No problem awoke_in_2003 Jul 2016 #54
I am a movie buff, used to go almost weekly Skittles Jul 2016 #56
Good! Fuck that Aunt Phyllis! backscatter712 Jul 2016 #23
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #26
you're defending that piece of dog shit? nt geek tragedy Jul 2016 #27
not at all surprising tenderfoot Jul 2016 #35
He was banned for stalking and harassment. sufrommich Jul 2016 #29
ROFLMAO. Brickbat Jul 2016 #37
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #43
Fuck Milo Yannopoulous. Seriously. Fuck him. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2016 #44
Meh. The guy can't whine about it The Straight Story Jul 2016 #46
Witty and elegant sharp_stick Jul 2016 #47
Good. cwydro Jul 2016 #28
What a terrible article, I can't even tell what happened Chathamization Jul 2016 #33
Here's an article that does a pretty good job at explaining what happened Chathamization Jul 2016 #49
He Got Exactly What He Deserved erpowers Jul 2016 #36
Good. What a sick fuck. nt DLevine Jul 2016 #50
Good riddance... Blue_Tires Jul 2016 #52
About time ismnotwasm Jul 2016 #57

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
22. Trump will wish Twitter had banned what he still defends! images, news and a short movie
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 04:10 AM
Jul 2016

This is "REAL GOOD" for children! Please think "happy thoughts," as the movie demands. Have you ever seen a "gopher with three heads?"




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3180201/Trump-defends-big-game-hunting-sons-shamed-Twitter-posing-trophy-kills-including-leopard-elephant-death-Cecil-lion.html

Donald Trump defending sons' sport killing of exotic African animals may finally doom billionaire blowhard's campaign
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/stasi-hed-article-1.2311902
"HUNTER KILLS LARGEST AFRICAN ELEPHANT AND POISONS DOZENS MORE"
IT'S A GOOD LIFE "You be dead!" said this kid

tritsofme

(17,380 posts)
15. The implication from that poster seemed more nefarious than a ban on Twitter
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 01:20 AM
Jul 2016

Closing a Twitter account does not leave one silenced, which is what that person advocates...

What does that mean? I'd like to know too.


Skittles

(153,169 posts)
18. he's been silenced on Twitter
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 01:56 AM
Jul 2016

he's free to spew his racist, sick trash where assholes appreciate him

 

63splitwindow

(2,657 posts)
10. That applies to many "Conservative" talking scumbags beginning with...
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 12:42 AM
Jul 2016


Of course once they see how lucrative it is they will milk it for all it is worth.
 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
55. Huh?
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 02:08 PM
Jul 2016

Explain that one to me. How do you know what's in other peoples' minds, and what makes you think you're any sort of arbiter on who needs to be 'silenced', whatever that means?

Initech

(100,081 posts)
7. Excellent!
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 12:27 AM
Jul 2016

I saw Ghostbusters on Sunday and it was really good. Better than I had expected. Leslie Jones doesn't deserve this.

Onyrleft

(344 posts)
8. Leslie Jones still needs to sue that creep.
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 12:36 AM
Jul 2016

The crap he posted was disgusting. He's a Breitbart scumbag and I hope she sues them all into abject poverty.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
9. I think the idea of a Ghostbusters remake is dumb
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 12:42 AM
Jul 2016

It's like a remake of Duck Soup. It's a totally needless remake of an already perfect original.

I just bought tickets for me, my wife, my daughter, and her boyfriend at two different showings of the new Ghostbusters. If you go to the original link, these are terrible, horrible human beings, and even on DU I can't say what I really think of them. I can, however, show the world with my wallet.

(It's still probably going to suck, but at least I now have sixty bucks towards the sequel )

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
12. Good.
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 12:51 AM
Jul 2016

You can say what you like...that's free speech. What you can't do is say it on privately owned venues when it breaches their TOS.

I like seeing abusive speech banned from social media. It sends a powerful message to those using such speech.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
16. Poor baby. Troll gets TS from twitter. Breitbart spawn is bound to fail.
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 01:25 AM
Jul 2016

Bottom feeders, attacking women gee how original that is all they know how to do.

kcr

(15,317 posts)
45. I'll give it a try
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 12:21 PM
Jul 2016

I'd say it's because there are a vast array of other choices for pizza. You just can't have that pizza. So the claim that his pizza rights have been violated would be an overstatement. Kind of like the claim that his free speech rights have been violated just because one social media venue didn't tolerate his vile spew.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
48. Plus, Twitter isn't the government.
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 12:49 PM
Jul 2016

We don't have a constitutional right to use Twitter any more than we have a constitutional right to post on DU.

Lots of people don't understand this, unfortunately.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
19. I hate that Hollywood has no new ideas
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 02:06 AM
Jul 2016

but why take it out on the actors? She was offered a roll, she took it.

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
20. No new ideas unless they came out of comic books
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 03:17 AM
Jul 2016

because reading seems to be a low priority for studio honchos. They'll blow millions on special effects but script writers? Oh why not just let the actors ad lib their way through a story board? It'll seem real that way.

Unfortunately, it's also boring as hell that way.

In addition, there are few women's roles where they're not just props to be used by men.

It's a good thing so many great movies are being made offshore. They're rarely being made here.

 

Humanist_Activist

(7,670 posts)
21. I think originality is somewhat overrated, what should matter is decent writing of the details...
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 04:06 AM
Jul 2016

and keeping things within the themes you wish to use.

There are only so many themes that movies, books, TV, epics, stories, legends, etc. use, and they only number a dozen or so.
Also, please bear in mind that all of these themes, or tropes, whatever you call them, are as old as dirt. Its very hard to be original when people have been retelling the same shit for probably tens of thousands of years now, since the beginning of complex language at least.

To give examples, there's the Hero's Journey, let's see, some of homer's epics, a LOT of westerns are like this, Star Wars, Star War VII(obviously), The Princess Bride, Three Musketeers, hmm, a Knight's Tale(both original Chaucer and the movie).

Ghostbusters falls under this theme as well, but for a team, rather than just a single individual, and it follows the conventions established a long time ago about how such teams are set up. The thing that's important is that the story is told well, the universe follows its own conventions so the audience isn't lost, etc.

Excellent examples of a different type of movie, the new Dredd movie, its not original(based on a comic book), but told well, and frankly I'd like to see them explore more of the Dredd universe they started to establish with that movie. In fact, I would tentatively call it an Americanized version of "The Raid" with slightly toned down violence. Similar themes and premise, even a similar setting of sorts(a single building), the enemy was even similar(drug lord). Both are excellent movies, but there are enough differences for both to stand on their own. I loved both, and would recommend the subtitled version of "The Raid" and its sequel as well. Its also worth mentioning that "The Raid" isn't completely original either, and I definitely got vibes of "Die Hard" from it.

Action_Patrol

(845 posts)
30. Dredd was a great movie
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 08:28 AM
Jul 2016

But it was both written and into production before The Raid. The Raid just made it to screen first.

Dredd should have been a huge hit. It was just a victim of it's crappy predecessor and bad marketing.

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
34. Magnificent film.
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 09:30 AM
Jul 2016

Terrific performance by Urban in a great examples of a performer "inhabiting" a character. And you can't even see most of his face!

I agree with you completely re: its predecessor and its marketing.

Action_Patrol

(845 posts)
38. It's a film that would benefit
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 10:13 AM
Jul 2016

From multiple chapters being told. Would love to see more of that universe.

Instead we get sequels to tripe like "XxX"

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
40. Yes indeed
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 10:26 AM
Jul 2016

Surprisingly, I didn't even know that the film existed until I stumbled upon it on NetFlix, and I couldn't believe how good it was. I only read Judge Dredd sporadically during my youth, because it wasn't available locally where I grew up, but it got the tone, the feel, the look and the attitude exactly right IMO. Even the "star-scrapers" were great, and they set up the promise of entire storytelling universes contained within each building.

I've heard that Urban wants to do another Dredd film with NetFlix or Amazon, but I don't know the current status.

Action_Patrol

(845 posts)
41. Apparently everyone involved still wants to be
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 10:43 AM
Jul 2016

Regardless of what format that may be.

I hope it happens. A Netflix series would work great for me. Technology has come a long way

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
25. I feel the same way about Broadway and live theater in general
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 07:33 AM
Jul 2016

So many "revivals" of old shows. Why don't they do something creative and new?

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
31. Yeah because Hamilton is such a boring and redundant piece, The Book of Mormon is just
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 08:57 AM
Jul 2016

a rip off of 'Koran-o-rama: the Musical. 'All The Way' has to be the umpteenth play about LBJ and really it's just 'Hamilton' set in the 60's with more white people. 'Fun Home' might was well be Gold Diggers of 1934, for the love of Mike!

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
32. Equally, all films are not sequels or remakes.
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 09:21 AM
Jul 2016

Last edited Wed Jul 20, 2016, 10:26 AM - Edit history (1)

Yes, Swiss Army Man is the thousandth remake of Jane Eyre.

Although the majority of highly successful films are sequels or remakes, whose fault is that? If it's such a terrible trend, and if Hollywood is so disastrously lacking in creativity, then discerning movie-goers should vote with their dollars and only buy tickets for independent films based on original screenplays.

For that matter, sequels and remakes are hardly a new phenomenon. There were at least seven Wizard of Oz films before Judy Garland donned the Technicolor-friendly Ruby Slippers. If Hollywood is lacking in creativity, it's only because it has always been lacking in creativity--just like live productions and print media.

How many productions of Hamlet have there been? Don't these silly theaters have any sense of originality?


Complaining about popular sequels and remakes is very close to self-congratulatory elitism.





Skittles

(153,169 posts)
56. I am a movie buff, used to go almost weekly
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 08:01 PM
Jul 2016

now more often than not it's hard to find good movies, so much cartoons and action hero crap

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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
44. Fuck Milo Yannopoulous. Seriously. Fuck him.
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 11:11 AM
Jul 2016

He's no "witty, eloquent troll." He's an asshole with one of the serious cases of Backpfeifengesicht you will ever see in your life.

He's a piece of shit who rallies other pieces of shit to do shitty things. His purported sexual orientation has absolutely zilch to diminish that fact (other than creating an odd paradox where you have ultra-bigoted alt-righters proclaiming their love of a supposedly gay guy.)

A little primer for you on free speech and the First Amendment: IT DOES NOT APPLY TO SOCIAL MEDIA. SOCIAL MEDIA IS NOT THE GOVERNMENT BUT RATHER A PRIVATE ENTITY AND CAN DO WHATEVER IT LIKES. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR LITTLE PRECIOUS HEAD.

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
46. Meh. The guy can't whine about it
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 12:22 PM
Jul 2016

He broke the TOS of a private business and they acted in their own interests.

And twitter has banned plenty of others over things as well (isis for example, who keeps making new accounts, so he is in good company).

His free speech is intact.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
47. Witty and elegant
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 12:45 PM
Jul 2016

are definitely not terms that most thinking individuals would use when describing Milo Yannopoulos. The sooner that serial loser and permavictim disappears from public view the better.

Chathamization

(1,638 posts)
33. What a terrible article, I can't even tell what happened
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 09:26 AM
Jul 2016

It says:

On Tuesday evening, the microblogging service permanently suspended the account of conservative commentator Milo Yiannopoulos, a day after he incited his followers to bombard Ghostbusters star Leslie Jones with racist and demeaning tweets.


Linking to another article - that talks about racist tweets, but doesn't mention Milo Yiannopoulos at all. So I guess he was behind those tweets and they found out later? He was encouraging his followers to attack her? Or maybe even encouraging his followers to attack her based on her race? I don't know. It'd be nice if the article could actually tell us what happened.

Chathamization

(1,638 posts)
49. Here's an article that does a pretty good job at explaining what happened
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 12:58 PM
Jul 2016
Excerpt:

At one point, Yiannopoulos even began tweeting out obviously fake tweets masquerading as tweets from Jones herself. Though it is unclear whether Yiannopoulos actually authored the falsified tweets himself or simply shared them, it was clearly an attempt to further smear Jones online.


Worth looking at those tweets - he was "retweeting" disgusting slur filled fake tweets and pretending they came from Jones (the article includes a lot of other things he did). Not sure why almost all the other articles about this are so vague about what actually happened.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
36. He Got Exactly What He Deserved
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 09:49 AM
Jul 2016

Milo Yiannopoulos got exactly what he deserved. This is not a free speech issue. His free speech rights have not been abridged. His encouragement of his followers to say racist things about Leslie Jones was just wrong. The sad part is that online Republicans are supporting him.

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