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struggle4progress

(118,338 posts)
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 09:18 PM Jul 2016

They plan to let Clinton win but also plan to keep Congress

None of them really know how to do anything else

If that happens, we're in for another noisy eight years of obstructionism

Let's put Clinton in the White House and give her a Congress that will work with her

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They plan to let Clinton win but also plan to keep Congress (Original Post) struggle4progress Jul 2016 OP
Yes, get those down ticket candidates elected. Thinkingabout Jul 2016 #1
And all the GOP really needs is control of the House. guillaumeb Jul 2016 #2
Controlling Senate will mean Court can be restored to some sanity, e.g. repeal Citizens United. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #4
Hopefully get some rational state gun control statutes upheld also. nt 63splitwindow Jul 2016 #7
they are the rear guard of the South that is still fighting your civil war. AlbertCat Jul 2016 #11
Just can't stop kicking GulfCoast66 Jul 2016 #12
You are correct in that racists are not confined to the southern states. guillaumeb Jul 2016 #18
Thanks for the clarification. GulfCoast66 Jul 2016 #21
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2016 #13
They figured this out a few cycles ago. liberalmuse Jul 2016 #3
It'll be 96 all over again rpannier Jul 2016 #5
And make sure voters understand the ballots and the procedure. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2016 #6
Yes, let's do that. mountain grammy Jul 2016 #8
Ugh. truebluegreen Jul 2016 #9
I don't know what to say to such a negative response. mountain grammy Jul 2016 #14
Do they plan on going another 8 years without appointing Federal and Supreme court judges? Crash2Parties Jul 2016 #10
They seem willing to do just that... Wounded Bear Jul 2016 #15
Yes!!!! flamingdem Jul 2016 #16
Absolutely Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2016 #17
So even if they succeed, greymattermom Jul 2016 #19
And then GOTV in the midterms treestar Jul 2016 #20
Yeah greiner3 Jul 2016 #22

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
2. And all the GOP really needs is control of the House.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 09:21 PM
Jul 2016

Last edited Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:29 PM - Edit history (1)

And given the level of gerrymandering, only a huge Democratic turnout can change that.

The GOP is obviously not a governing party, they are the rear guard of the RACISTS who are still fighting your civil war.

Edited to replace the word South with the word racists.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
12. Just can't stop kicking
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:20 AM
Jul 2016

We southerners can you? Well, my state has gone blue the past 2 elections and will again this year. As will Virginia and hopefully North Carolina. And maybe more.

Ever notice that there are lots of states in the west that are even more reliably republican than many southern states? But you do not denigrate them.

Want to compare the Louisiana or Virginia governor with the one in Wisconsin or Indiana or Ohio.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
18. You are correct in that racists are not confined to the southern states.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:27 PM
Jul 2016

And I should have said that the GOP is the party of racists who continue to foght your civil war.

My apology to any southerner who (correctly) felt aggrieved.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
21. Thanks for the clarification.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:39 PM
Jul 2016

I do not disagree.

Although it does seem to me that the right wing out west may be even more hard core than even in the south. I am thinking the Bundies and that sort.

And do not give up on the entire south. There are democrats working hard to loosen the republican hold.

Have a nice day.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
3. They figured this out a few cycles ago.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 09:27 PM
Jul 2016

"They" meaning the Koch brothers and their ilk. As long as they can pack Congress with do-nothing, obstructionist conservatives, the POTUS has next to no power and nothing gets done. In the meantime, our infrastructure crumbles.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,145 posts)
6. And make sure voters understand the ballots and the procedure.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 11:45 PM
Jul 2016

It is always different. In CA we will have reams of initiatives. It will take forever to fl out one ballot.

mountain grammy

(26,648 posts)
8. Yes, let's do that.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 11:48 PM
Jul 2016

I will work hard to re-elect Senator Bennet in Colorado, as well as my Democratic Rep. Polis's seat is fairly safe, as we are in Boulder's district, but the loss of Udall's seat was terrible. Can't allow that to happen again. I will also be donating to candidates in other states.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
9. Ugh.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 11:58 PM
Jul 2016

As a native (yes, actually born and raised) of Boulder and life-long Democrat, I have to say that Bennet turns my stomach, and Polis (for whom I was a state delegate in his first campaign) is not much better. And Udall was a HUGE disappointment, ran a STUPID re-election campaign (losing to Gardner? Really?) and lost the opportunity to solidify Democratic gains in the Great State of Colorado.

I am so done rooting for the "D". I want actual policies I can get behind--even if we can't get them done--yet.

mountain grammy

(26,648 posts)
14. I don't know what to say to such a negative response.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 10:47 AM
Jul 2016

I have issues with Bennet and Polis, but no challenger worth a shit has come forward since Andrew Romanoff, and he couldn't get the support, though he sure had mine.
Who would you support in Colorado elections? Was Romanoff liberal enough for you? Most Dems these days do back the corporate agenda. It's up to people to change that, and I've campaigned hard for change, but I'll damn well support the candidate who gives us the best chance, and that would be Democrats.
In Colorado, I believe not voting, or voting third party, elects Republicans, especially when Colorado media puts lipstick on pigs like Cory Gardner. I think Udall ran the best he could against a candidate so beloved by our idiotic media.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,437 posts)
17. Absolutely
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 10:56 AM
Jul 2016

She will definitely need some support to get things done. She definitely needs the Senate- so that Republicans can't claim that we need to wait until "America has spoken" in 2020 on who they want selecting SCOTUS Justices. You may laugh but I certainly wouldn't put it past them. I'm still incredulous that we have gone 4 or 5 months with Republicans getting away with blockading the appointment of a Scalia replacement.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
19. So even if they succeed,
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:35 PM
Jul 2016

congress gets elected every two years. There are twice as many changes to make a change there.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
20. And then GOTV in the midterms
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 01:36 PM
Jul 2016

People need to vote in those rather than sitting around and then complaining that Congress is full of assholes.

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