wow...did Scarborough really say that? totally agree..

[Laura PourMeADrink]

Re: Terrorists/Killers home and abroad of late...paraphrasing,,


"Let's talk about conflating things for a minute...trying to attach a political motive to what has happened..a single deranged person's actions...all of a sudden getting attached to something bigger..

We in the media have to start thinking about how much attention to give to these individuals who commit acts of terror.

I wonder if we are trying to attach a universal meaning to an individual derangement,to fill up time on cable news. I think we are doing a disservice. I think we are doing America and the world a disservice."

[no_hypocrisy]

1. I remember Patty Hearst and the Symbionese Liberation Army in 1974.

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Donald DeFreeze, a/k/a Cinque, was a man who organized a group of people called the SLA. They robbed banks, assassinated SLA school superintendent, Marcus Foster, and badly wounded his deputy, Robert Blackburn, kidnapped Patty Hearst, and committed other criminal acts of violence under the guise of counter-revolution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbionese_Liberation_Army

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_DeFreeze


With SLA you had an individual who was able to garner a few individuals to believe they could overthrow the government. If the group existed today, the media (and Trump) would link it to ISIS or another group instead of a rogue collection of individuals, led by someone who had questionable sanity. In 1974, it was feared that the SLA was part of a larger confederation of groups, but it was in fact isolated in itself.

[KittyWampus]

13. taking a slightly different approach- all these rightwing militia groups,

and anti-choice groups fomenting rebellion and "lone wolves" to lash out.

[Chathamization]

16. Indeed, there were a number of Left-wing terrorist/militant groups during that time period

SLA, Weather Underground, Red Army Faction, Japanese Red Army, the Black September Organization probably fits in as well. In fact, if we look at terrorism coming out of the Middle East/North Africa in the 60's, 70's, and 80's, it seems to be mostly secular anti-colonialists.

And of course, there are always more organizations to talk about. The KKK was probably the terrorist organization that was the largest existential threat to the U.S. Puerto Rican nationalists were able to wound five members of congress when they opened fire in the Capitol (Puerto Rican nationalists also had a lengthy bombing campaign); the cult at Jonestown killed congressman Leo Ryan. There are of course, many, many others.

[DinahMoeHum]

2. How to handle "Latest Breaking News" courtesy of WNYC. . .

and their show "On The Media"

http://www.wnyc.org/shows/otm/

[liberal N proud]

4. Those are excellent points on the media

[Laura PourMeADrink]

6. "There is almost never a second shooter.." !!!

[Fast Walker 52]

9. excellent -- thanks for that

[oberliner]

14. DUers take note!

This is great.

[Augiedog]

3. # 10. Ignore Joe Scarborough

[Laura PourMeADrink]

5. Why? I agree with him. I am impressed with any of the very very

few Republicans with even if it's just for a brief second show some degree of thoughtfulness/sanity

[elias7]

15. He is pompous and overbearing, but lately, he has not been able to fall in line

He has been uncharacteristically fair minded in some of his views concerning republican extremism recently. Sometimes more than twice day, even.

[Chakab]

7. What's that old adage about the broken clock?

He's right here, but this is probably the only reasonable point that he's made in the past decade.

I won't ruin your thread by going on a rant about how he's been servicing Trump and the Koch brothers on his show for the past couple of years.

[Hulk]

8. I second your post

Even a broken clock is right twice in a day. Joe is that clock.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

10. I hear you. My bad that I made this sound like it was about him, the source. It

Isn't at all, really. It is about what he said. The idea. It doesn't matter whether he said it or Bernie Sanders said it. I think it is very true. The Republicans (Trump and others joining on the bandwagon)

That the world is in a grand state of chaos and Law and Order bullshit.

[videohead5]

11. The Shooter Was a Nut

He thought the government was stalking him.He also had nothing to do with BLM.

[mountain grammy]

12. Like the crash of the Egyptian airliner

Definitely terrorism, until it wasn't.