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https://twitter.com/tariqnasheed/status/754708241200787456/s
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)KMOD
(7,906 posts)is jumping to the conclusion that this crime is associated with the Black Lives Matter movement.
You don't know the identity of the the perpetrator(s), or the motive.
Democat
(11,617 posts)Click the links.
The tweets are addressing those who are jumping to the conclusion that the Black Lives Matter movement has something to do with what is currently happening in Baton Rouge.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)isn't really much better. I'd argue that its actually worse.
KMOD
(7,906 posts)blamed President Obama and the Black Lives Matter movement, than his message is addressed to you.
If you are not immediately blaming President Obama and the Black Lives Matter movement, you have no reason to be offended by his tweet.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)This was HIS first thought:
Tariq Nasheed ?@tariqnasheed 1h1 hour ago
3 Baton Rouge police officers were shot and killed today. White supremacy put all this madness into motion
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That is a problem. It's ok to admit that this guy is off the rails.
KMOD
(7,906 posts)Since you follow him on Twitter, why don't you go have a discussion there, instead of trying to shit stir something here.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)....don't blame me.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)If you wish to look at root causes, white supremacy is it.
jonno99
(2,620 posts)kwassa
(23,340 posts)Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)just like apartheid led to the ANC blowing shit up in South Africa 50, 60 years ago.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)...was to CYA and somehow blame 'white people' as soon as this event occured.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)He said "white supremacy".
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)white supremacy is responsible for the treatment of black Americans at the hands of police, and the deaths of black Americans at the hands of police, that have led to some people with grievances targeting police deliberately in retaliation (see: Dallas, recently, and very probably Baton Rouge, today). There's a chain of cause and effect that's as clear here as the one between US foreign policy in Afghanistan and the Middle East and ISIS and Al-Qaeda.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)Thanks.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)there's a difference between a reason and an excuse. It's quite possible to see the connection without endorsing the action involved. If you think that's an "excuse", you're an idiot.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)You're making excuses for terrorism and murder in one post. Keep up the good work.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)Unless you're somehow trying to argue that there's zero connection between these things (radicals don't become radicals for no reason, usually).
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Bradical79
(4,490 posts)You just want to use a murder to bait people on a message board and trash the Black Lives Matter movement rather than have a discussion. That's pretty disgusting.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)That fact should already be established. I was allowing SJ to follow out his counterpoint to its (il)logical conclusion.
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)You clearly don't care about actual rational discussion. You could actually try discussing why you think blaming white supremecy is fooling rather than simply declare it so and try to bait people.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)uponit7771
(90,364 posts)Cosmocat
(14,572 posts)Every sports board I post on has the usual dozen or so asshats with a string on this screaming about the black panthers and each one respectively with post 1,000 saying how BHO is "GETTING WHAT HE WANTS!"
It isn't my cup of tea, but people are fucking human and have their breaking points.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)But I like these
treestar
(82,383 posts)Blaming Obama is stupid.
lapucelle
(18,319 posts)on Twitter, black and white.
Lisa0825
(14,487 posts)to the recent acts of violence. White supremacy is what allowed the rage to grow and some people have taken it into the wrong direction. Would this have happened without the bigotry that is so widespread in our society? I don't think so.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)Lisa0825
(14,487 posts)I don't see him saying "all white people" or even "white people" or "all cops."
Can we blame racists? White Supremacists? A system that unjustly protects police officers even when they are in the wrong? The fact that there is a history of white supremacists in law enforement?
edited to add: Now I don't know this guy at all, so I can't judge him overall as good or bad. I am just going by the two tweets you shared, and seeing them through my own filters.
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)but you have no problem disparaging the entire Black Lives Matter movement over some twitter comments?
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)uponit7771
(90,364 posts)philosslayer
(3,076 posts)uuuhhh.... i think you need to come down in that number considerably. Like... double digits.
Chemisse
(30,817 posts)I don't like the level of antagonistic rhetoric in the tweets, but the basic point he is making is undeniably correct.
romanic
(2,841 posts)He's had radio shows clowning BLM activists, saying they're bankrolled by George Soros, "agents for white surpremacy", etc. Very weird tweet.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)ismnotwasm
(42,008 posts)Don't hate.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Just because he's black, he's automatically speaking for every member of BLM?
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)Thanks for proving my point
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)comments...then those comments are part of the group.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)It's fun to invent your own rules. I should try more of it
tenderfoot
(8,438 posts)eom
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)That attitude is exactly where the white (Christian) supremacy argument comes from.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)pintobean
(18,101 posts)Stinky The Clown
(67,818 posts)Joe
What does that have to do with ANYthing apart from what that guy thinks?
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)Distasteful comments by people in power should always be pointed out.
Stinky The Clown
(67,818 posts)Joe
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)It was a leader of a movement commenting on the incident in question. What didn't it have to do with Baton Rouge?
Stinky The Clown
(67,818 posts)Joe
Since you saw the need to post it in more than one location it must be pretty important (to you). Why? They guy in your video clip may be the leader on BLM but his opinion is worth . . . what?
What does that spammed video have to do with today's shootings apart from being an irrelevant opinion posted to a public website?
I'm not seeing the connection.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)Sorry if facts are an inconvenient truth.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)What video? You're in a thread concerning twitter comments from Tariq Nasheed. I have another thread posting videos from the shooter. They are two different people. You understand that, right?
kwassa
(23,340 posts)All you suspected racists who are blaming Obama & #BLM for the #BatonRouge police deaths, instead of white supremacy, YOU are the problem
Do you blame Obama or BLM for the Baton Rouge police deaths? If not, are you being addressed in this tweet?
Do you think that white supremacy had nothing to do with the police deaths?
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)kwassa
(23,340 posts)I've been searching for awhile on Google, and find no evidence so far, though he does call BLM white-controlled, in one tweet.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)The baiting itself is well done, however I would suggest a more graceful cast of the pole; the usual technique is a subtle and quick flick of the wrist towards the water rather than simply emptying a bucket of chum.
Fishermen-- showing what a reasonable group they are as well.
(insert below any feigned offense taken to better validate alleged sincerity)
zappaman
(20,606 posts)Perfect.
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)Why are they being blamed for the actions of a demented shooter who shared nothing with them except for skin color?