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applegrove

(118,659 posts)
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 04:51 PM Jul 2016

What Mass Killers Really Have in Common

By Rebecca Traister at the Cut

http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/07/mass-killers-terrorism-domestic-violence.html?mid=facebook_nymag

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But if Trump and Gingrich are truly looking to stem terrorism and mass violence of the sort that happened in Nice, they might do better to look to a different kind of litmus test: domestic violence and grievances against women. Early reports suggest that Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel, who drove a rented truck through a crowd of Bastille Day revelers on Thursday night, killing more than 80 including at least ten children, may not have been devout, but he did have a criminal record of domestic violence. A neighbor claimed he would “rant about his wife,” who left him two years ago.

This history of domestic violence puts Bouhlel in the horrific company of many mass murderers. Omar Mateen, who last month killed 49 people and wounded 53 others in a mass shooting at an Orlando gay club, had an extensive history of domestic abuse. His former wife has claimed that in addition to taking her paychecks and forbidding her from leaving the house, Mateen also beat her if she failed to live up to traditional wifely responsibilities.


And before anyone jumps to the conclusion that killers with Muslim backgrounds have uniquely bad histories with women, recall that Robert Lewis Dear, the devout Christian who killed three people and wounded nine at a Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood clinic in November, had a lengthy history of violence against women, including a 1992 arrest for rape and sexual violence. According to the Washington Post, two of his three ex-wives had accused him of domestic abuse.

When Elliot Rodger went on a shooting rampage in Southern California in 2014, killing seven, including himself, he left a video in which he detailed his fury, particularly at women who had rejected him. “I don’t know why you girls aren’t attracted to me but I will punish you all for it …You will finally see that I am, in truth, the superior one, the true alpha male.”


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Warpy

(111,261 posts)
1. I was hoping someone would point this out
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 05:02 PM
Jul 2016

Some of them had no history with women beyond thinking women owed them something and not getting it. Most of them have a long history of abusing women around them, from mothers to girlfriends to wives.

Men need to educate their sons better. They need to let their sons know that once they're off the tit, no woman owes them a damned thing. They'll have to earn it.

lindysalsagal

(20,686 posts)
2. Women are always the low hanging fruit for the deranged. They upgrade to strangers
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 05:07 PM
Jul 2016

when abusing their wives and children doesn't assuage their mental anguish.

Unfortunately, there are so many who present as typical socipaths, that we can't lock them all up. We have to wait until they figure out a way to murder more people and then act on it. NO predicting that.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
6. Glad to say -- I have been "rejected" by many women, but not once have I thought about violence
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 05:48 PM
Jul 2016

or even oiling gunz.

But, the OP is right that so many of these mass shooters seem to be people with such issues. And it ain't just "mass shooters." Think george zimmerman -- headed out, stalked an unarmed kid and murdered him right after having a big fight with his then wife.

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
7. We can't use misogyny as a litums test for mass killers
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 05:52 PM
Jul 2016

Conservatives would have to look in the mirror to see the real culprits.

We need to look for scapegoats and punish them for our crimes.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
11. I think this information is counter to the Mateen narrative DU declared to be fact.
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 07:42 PM
Jul 2016

So DU is not likely to discuss it.

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
10. Jim David Adkisson wanted to start a war on liberals, he shot up a church his ex-wife went to
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 07:36 PM
Jul 2016

Killing 2 and wounding 6.

There is also John Russell Houser from last year, he killed 2 and wounded 9, it seems as though he chose to shoot up of a showing of a movie that had feminist themes.

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