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cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 05:34 PM Jun 2012

Grover Norquist losing his mojo...

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) broke with anti-tax crusader Grover Norquist on Tuesday, telling ABC's Jonathan Karl that he supported eliminating tax deductions in order to help get the country back on solid fiscal footing.

"We are so far in debt that if you don't give up some ideological ground, the country sinks," Graham said.

Graham is one of over a thousand Republicans nationwide who have signed Norquist's anti-tax pledge to oppose and vote against any effort to increase taxes.

The pledge also opposes raising revenue by eliminating tax deductions and credits. Graham voiced his disagreement with that component, saying "when you eliminate a deduction, it's OK with me to use some of that money to get us out of debt."

He praised Norquist for "doing a great service" but said that due to the country's poor fiscal climate, the Republican party's position must evolve.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/12/lindsey-graham-grover-norquist-anti-tax-pledge_n_1590356.html

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JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
1. But will Graham follow through?
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 05:38 PM
Jun 2012

When it comes up for a vote - when the Senate has a chance to strip things out from the House bill - will Graham get the votes up to 60?

I think this shows tat the Repubs are scared. At least this one is . . .

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
3. I call BS on this without the details
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 05:41 PM
Jun 2012

I can see them wanting to lower capital gains (unearned income) from 15% to 10% and taking away things like the mortgage deduction that the rest of us rely on to get somewhat of a break on our 25%+ tax bills.

Mz Pip

(27,445 posts)
4. So that's 2 GOP senators
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 05:41 PM
Jun 2012

who are backing off from Norquist - Graham and Coburn. Not enough IMHO.

I don't know how Norquist got to be so powerful but he is and Republicans seem more than willing to sign his idiot pledge. Seems to me a Senator or House members first allegiasnce should be to the American people and not some twit lobbyist.

struggle4progress

(118,285 posts)
5. Folk like Lindsey can play dumb, I guess -- but Grover's plan has always been
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 05:59 PM
Jun 2012

to bankrupt the Federal authority: it furthers his anti-government ideology to have the Federal government hog-tied by debt

This has been obvious ever since the Republicans began kowtowing to Grover -- and I remember hearing folk point it out thirty years ago



spanone

(135,838 posts)
6. he praised norquist for 'doing a great service'.....cover your ass, lindsey
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 06:03 PM
Jun 2012

i won't praise graham for having a logical thought. it's probably a brain-fart

raging_moderate

(147 posts)
7. most one-trick ponies eventually wear thin...
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 06:06 PM
Jun 2012

but since his only trick is to sh!t on 99.9% of the country, I'm surprised it took this long.

gkhouston

(21,642 posts)
8. Unless Graham quickly back-pedals, Norquist is toast.
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 06:17 PM
Jun 2012

Norquist doesn't know economics from a hole in the ground, and all it will take is a few prominent Republicans ignoring his huffing and puffing to demolish his credibility.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
9. Good. The anti-tax pledge is fucking silly. Fucking SILLY!!
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 07:01 PM
Jun 2012


Seriously, dood . . . America's not going to raise any taxes ever? EVER?

What if there was another aggressive invasion? What if this country had a national emergency? What if this country got so far into the financial shitter that you had no choi . . . oh wait, it's that way NOW.

This country is 16 trillion in debt. 16 TRILLION, much of which has to do with 32 years of your fucking dumb party's borrow-and-waste-on-worthless-shit economics. Without raising a single tax on anyone and wanting to give more breaks to corporations and the wealthy who'll do nothing WITH them (since they're taxed on PROFIT and they're going to put their efforts gaining green where the tax AIN'T . . . I mean, it's logic a five-year-old can rip through, but not the drooling Faux News watchers), pray tell WHERE is the money going to come from to run this country? WHERE? You tell me this fucking instant, you know-nothing Yard Gnome, WHERE?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
12. Grover does not have a chance in hell to get elected so he needs to shut up and forget his pledge
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 07:12 PM
Jun 2012

Our Congress members should all be standing up to Grover and letting him know who is elected and is not elected. Grover is wrong for our country and wrong on his failure to see the need to have our debt paid down.

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