"The Drug Enforcement Administration has suggested that illegal steroid use could be responsible

[midnight]

for “police officers who exhibit rage, aggression and/or poor judgment (all symptoms of possible steroid abuse) in confrontations with citizens."

"Human Rights Watch blames police misconduct and excessive use of force on a systemic lack of accountability within law enforcement agencies and the criminal justice system. And civil rights advocates are blaming police militarization and the abundance of laws (overcriminalization) pushed by lawmakers for the nation’s over-policing, over-jailing and over-killing."

"Shame on Republicans and Democrats for not taking responsibility for having sidelined legitimate matters of concern such as police misconduct in favor of party politics and campaign contributions from special interest groups and unions.

Shame on the courts for not taking responsibility for allowing government agents to hide behind the shield of qualified immunity, rather than being held accountable for their actions."

https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/john_whiteheads_commentary/dont_just_blame_the_cops_who_is_responsible_for_americas_killing_fields

[Nevernose]

1. Many experts believe that "roid rage" is a myth

Assholes are going to be assholes, regardless of anabolic steroids. Many, many people are starting to realize that there's not much good evidence behind roid rage. I sure as hell aren't going to believe the organization that tells us that marijuana is more dangerous than cocaine.

In fact, the only anabolic steroid that seems to cause any mental shift whatsoever is Dianabol, which often causes a small degree of euphoria.

Of much more immediate danger to people in general is non-anabolic steroids like prednisone. Most people who have taken large and/or extended prednisone can tell horror stories.

Cops don't act like that because of drugs. That's a simple answer, but the truth is many of them are just aggressive douchenozzles and probably were as far back as middle school.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/neuroskeptic/2014/08/30/myth-roid-rage/#.V4gXzrgrLIU
http://www.timinvermont.com/fitness/norage.htm
http://whatwhey.com/articles/roids-rage-myth-busted

[LeftyMom]

8. Man, I wish my cat could read a study.

She had to go on steroid injections for a skin problem and she went from being the kind of cat who's a bit neurotic and mostly lives in dark corners under the furniture to a hissing, spitting territorial murderbeast who couldn't stand to see another animal.

And then she quit getting injections and became a neurotic recluse again.

All in her fluffy head. Huh.

Hint: two of those websites are telling their target audience what they want to hear.

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10. I never thought about that…. But when I was in college. My proffessor had to get steroid

injections. She was brutal….

[Nevernose]

11. Why did your professor need testosterone injections?

That's unusual for women, except in extreme cases of wasting, like advanced AIDS.

On edit: added "for women"

[1StrongBlackMan]

16. My sister suffers with asthma and takes steriods.

[Nevernose]

18. Those are an ENTIRELY different kind

Those are corticosteroids. Except for the name, they are radically different that Androgenic Anabolic Steroids (AAS). Those, primarily/especially the prednisone family, can cause radical behavioral differences. The bodybuilder type, AAS, mostly just increase/simulate the already naturally occurring hormone testosterone.

I've taken both by prescription. The corticosteroids made me crazy as hell (to use a technical term), while the testosterone supplements left me at my natural state: gentle as a lamb.

AAS as an excuse for police brutality is simply too easy: there are far too many people all over the world who take them legally, even OTC, and show no behavioral changes, and there's starting to be a large paradigm shift because of that. Check out the research and behavior and AAS; there's not much there that's not crappy or anecdotal.

[LeftyMom]

17. Women Of A Certain Age get low dose testosterone for libido sometimes.

My late mother tried it once. She said it didn't to jack shit for anything but the hair on her upper lip, but a divorce fixed her right up.

[Nevernose]

19. Huh. I take a drug for breast cancer :)

Because my estradiol level is -- literally, not joking -- somewhere around a menstruating teenager's. In fact, that's how I became interested in this stuff. Someday my endocrinologist is going to win the Nobel.

In men that's usually associated with extreme obesity, but in my case they have no idea why.

[LeftyMom]

20. My dad's on a diuretic that has a testosterone blocking side effect.

He's noticed a little muscle wasting (but that might just be his illness or his age) but the promised reversal of his male pattern baldness does not appear to be forthcoming.

The same drug is used off-label and in higher doses to suppress testosterone in trans women. Which is pretty far afield of keeping people with liver disease peeing, but it works and it's cheap.

Bodies are weird.

[midnight]

24. Hope mom is doing well...

[LeftyMom]

25. That was decades ago

She's since died. But thank you.

[midnight]

23. The subject discussion was on "steroid injections"

[Nevernose]

13. Your cat was most likely on corticosteroids

Which, as I said in my original post, make people (and kitties) batshit crazy.

I mostly provided the second two links because they contained further links to studies. Again: there's not a whole lot of evidence that AAS cause emotional extremes, although coritcosteroids tend to make people (and kitties) act radically different. Those are perfectly legal, even OTC most places. The ony animals I know of that are prescribed AAS are racehorses. They tend to run fast, but not freak out and kill other racehorses.

The reason that AAS are illegal is primarily because of sports doping. It's the legal kind that make people into monsters.

[safeinOhio]

2. Cops need to pee in the cup

Like everyone else after any use of force.

[wildeyed]

5. I would like them to blow into a breathalyzer too. n/t

[midnight]

6. That truely would be something...

[Warpy]

3. Well, DUH

How many of us have said that very thing for MONTHS?

Any cop accused of panicking, using excessive force, or other wise losing it should be checked for steroid abuse.

[midnight]

7. That and perhaps a psych test.

[1StrongBlackMan]

4. I stopped read the linked article at ...

"Shame on President Obama ..." after citing to several theories regarding the cause of the police misconduct.

[midnight]

9. "Shame on President Obama for not taking personal responsibility for the blowback resulting from

America’s endless wars abroad, the militarization of local police, and the ramifications of allowing police to use battlefield equipment such as drones, assault weapons, tanks, etc. How telling that the first domestic killing of an American citizen by a drone (in this case, a bomb-equipped police robot) should be carried out during the final term of a president whose targeted drone killings abroad have resulted in the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians."


At this point I kept on reading….

[1StrongBlackMan]

14. I sure you did. But tell me ...

why should a President take personal responsibility for every grievance the perpetually pissed off has?

"America's endless wars" have nothing to do with police misconduct. And all of the stuff you read on to read are local decisions that a President has/can have little affect on.

So your reading on was wasted time, other than to feed your misdirected outrage.

[midnight]

22. You might find some answers to why a President might take personal responsibility -If you read

the whole article…

[Warren DeMontague]

15. I never thought I'd say this

but I agree with the DEA.

[TeeYiYi]

21. Cops should be required...

...to undergo strict drug and alcohol testing; and not just after they kill someone, but as a matter of course.

If they don't like that idea, they can find another job.

I don't usually advocate for personal rights being violated, but I'm not sure this is an invasion of privacy so much as it's a way to raise the the bar in an area that obviously needs oversight and vigilance.

TYY