Sixty people are dead in that Nice truck terrorist attack. CNN

[applegrove]

Many more injured.

[pinboy3niner]

1. R.I.P.

[SoCalNative]

2. I really have to disagree with this being called

a terrorist attack at this point by certain media. Unless they find undetonated explosives in the truck, I'm willing to think it was just the act of an angry, disgruntled someone. Enough with the sensationalism.

[6chars]

3. wanna bet?

[SoCalNative]

9. Yeah I would

if it was a terrorist attack, hundreds or more would be dead

[Statistical]

26. Explosives and weapons found in the truck including a large cache of grenades.

Two gunmen involved (driver and at least another person). Driver was killed. Other gunman at large.

[applegrove]

4. ISIS has been suggesting it followers abroad use vehicles to kill the public. Happened in Quebec

last year. I think the guy was self radicalized. He killed one soldier that way. So I do see why they are calling it that. That being said CNN backtracking on using the term terror. Calling it only an attack.

[jmg257]

6. They did apparently - reported truck had explosives, but conflicting still. nt

[muriel_volestrangler]

10. An attack on the general public is designed to induce terror

whether done with a truck, guns, explosives or anything else. It's not sensationalist.

[SoCalNative]

12. Ok..now

with this latest info I'm inclined to believe it is a terrorist attempt attack.

Per CNN:

Police find firearms, explosives and grenades in truck, French official says. Definitely sounds like a lone wolf

[applegrove]

31. CNN said that because there were armaments in the truck they think it hints at outside help, so

it may not even be a lone wolf attack.

[grossproffit]

14. Wait, what?

[SoCalNative]

16. Again..I don't jump to conclusions

or go for the lowest common denominator until more info is available.

[grossproffit]

18. It wasn't a jump for those familiar with this style of attack.

It's horrific.

[SoCalNative]

22. I don't disagree..but it could have been

much more horrific..if it would have been played out all the way

[mythology]

37. It actually was leaping to a conclusion because the facts weren't in

You can say it was likely, but with many major news stories the first reports are often flat out wrong because eye witnesses are really bad in traumatic situations.

[B2G]

15. Ok. They found explosives in the truck.

You were saying?

[SoCalNative]

17. I don't presuppose

until more facts are known

[Yo_Mama]

20. They found guns and grenades in that truck. French anti-terrorism unit has taken charge.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-crash-arms-idUSKCN0ZU2S9?il=0

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-crash-idUSKCN0ZU2K7

[840high]

38. Weapons and explosives found.

[bdwker]

5. Who would do something like this ?

Who would do something so heinous as to kill innocent people ?

[NightWatcher]

8. A member of a religious death cult, trying to lure us into a ground war in the Mid East

And goddammit it's getting harder to remain cool and rational.

[Amishman]

24. Yes, we need to face the reality of this situation

this shit is not going away

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

13. Right-wing pro Le Pen supporters, off course

Or maybe a closeted gay man angry at people kissing on the street.

[King_David]

35. Yea , I'm also waiting for the " self loathing Gay man" explanation here...

[jmg257]

19. Take your pick of various wackos... nt

[Gabi Hayes]

27. are you serious? the reason we're in afghanistan is if we leave,

bye bye Pakistan, and the terrorists get their nukes

that's their ultimate wet dream

[tenderfoot]

36. People that want people to elect right wing politicians.

Because they're strong and lefties are weak.

[exboyfil]

7. Rush - Bastille Day

Lessons taught but never learned
All around us anger burns
Guide the future by the past
Long ago the mould was cast

For they marched up to Bastille Day
La guillotine claimed her bloody prize
Hear the echoes of the centuries
Power isn't all that money buys

[Dr. Strange]

34. And years later...

All this time we're talking and sharing our rational view
A billion other voices are spreading other news
All this time we're living and trying to understand
Why a billion other choices are making their demands

Talk of a Peaceable Kingdom
Talk of a time without fear
The ones we wish would listen
Are never going to hear

All this time we're shuffling and laying out all our cards
While a billion other dealers are slipping past our guards
All this time we're hoping and praying we all might learn
While a billion other teachers are teaching them how to burn

[bdwker]

11. Its so good that Europe overcame its fear of strangers

and invited in people from all over the world.

Great move on that.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

21. Oh, hi Donald. Nt

[bdwker]

23. Actually Hi Hillary.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

25. Yeah I'm going to go with my first impression.

But nice try.

[muriel_volestrangler]

30. If you think your posts are like Hillary's would be, you're sadly mistaken

You made a sarcastic post about immigration. Trump is also anti-immigrant. Hillary is not.

[applegrove]

32. +1

[Tommy_Carcetti]

48. Given that I'm the son of a person whose family of "strangers" was "invited in" to this country....

....I'd politely tell the poster to, well, you know. Dick Cheney and all.

[X_Digger]

28. Dammit, who left the door open again? We got a xenophobe over here. n/t

[Albertoo]

29. Will asking the religion of the attackers be islamophobic?

Respect for other cultures has for too long shielded Islam from criticism.
Terrorists do not come from space ships, they hail from the literalist half of worlwide Islam
(according to Pew Research, half Muslims worldwide place the Sharia above democracy)

I still believe Trump will fail, but the Democratic Party should review its stance on immigration from countries where literalist Islam is the cultural norm, for fear of suffering the electoral defeats far right politicians are inflicting on European Social Democrats.

[840high]

40. yep +10

[tblue37]

44. We also have domestic terrorists here in the US, and they come either from RW Christian

groups or from RW "sovereign citizen" type militias. Many of their members are former military or LEOs. Some are still LEOs. White supremacy is often either an undercurrent or a proudly displayed part of their ideology.

Right now Islamacists are committing the most frequent and the splashiest attacks, but RW Christianist and RW sovereign citizen militias (the group membership often overlaps) will probably start making more news here soon enough.

As of now, though their terrorists have been acting alone or in small groups (e.g., Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols, and Michael Fortier; Eric Rudolph; Jerad and Amy Miller, who murdered two Vegas police officers and draped their bodies with the Gadsden flag after participating in the Bundy Ranch standoff; Robert Lewis Dear, the guy who shot up the Colorado Planned Parenthood clinic; Eric Frein, the PA man who killed one cop, wounded another, then hid in the Pensylvania woods).

Several big plans have been thwarted by police or by the FBI, partly because they have some of these people on their radar already, but sometimes just by way of luck.

Since the sovereign citizen types tend to drive without a license and often without a license plate, they are often pulled over, and when that happens, the cops sometimes find them with caches of weapons they are not allowed to have--because often they carry felony convictions on their records. That is one of the ways they have nabbed potential terrorists while they were still stockpiling weapons and making their plans.

[Albertoo]

45. So what? Islamic terrorism is gaining market share

There are no RW terror groups in Europe (one occasional Breyvik), plenty of Islamists

And San Bernardino, Orlando, don't tell me you don't see an increase.

[Eleanors38]

53. "market share?" Can I get this on AMEX or OTC?

[Albertoo]

54. I REALLY wish there were no such 'market shares' to talk about

[Angel Martin]

46. how does the existence of RW terrorists already in the USA

make it rational to bring in additional terrorists motivated by Islam ?

[Calculating]

33. How do we stop this madness?

This is exactly the kind of thing I worried about happening even if guns were banned. Some guy could just get a truck and mow down 100+ people in a crowd. Guns are not the problem here. We're dealing with a group of extremists who are bent on Armageddon, and they'll kill massive amounts of people by any means available.

[Albertoo]

39. Contain and reform religions

[Nye Bevan]

41. Mormonism and Episcopalians, for example? (nt)

[Albertoo]

42. All (not sure what to do with the stock of Mormon magic underwear though)

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

47. Them, and all those Voldemortians.

Because we dare not utter the religion's name.

[Dreamer Tatum]

49. Great idea. Which one would you start with?

I'd start with those murderous Unitarians, myself.

[MineralMan]

50. Which religions did you have in mind?

Maybe you should rethink your phrasing...you know...or maybe self-delete.

[tblue37]

43. It is apparently 80 or more now. nt

[suffragette]

52. 188 injured, 48 in intensive care

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/jul/14/nice-bastille-day-france-attack-promenade-des-anglais-vehicle