Suspected terrorist attack in France

[DemocratSinceBirth]

Per CNN

[BooScout]

1. Up to 30 dead...

...according to French radio. A truck drove along the promenade in Nice for a long distance.

[applegrove]

2. Occupants of truck exchanged gun fire with police. The roads were blocked off for Bastille Day

and were for pedestrian use only. Vibes to those poor souls.

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

3. At least 30 dead per French TV

Truck plows into crowd in Nice.

[Cali_Democrat]

4. How long before Trump blames Obama and Hillary? nt

[B2G]

5. Horrific.

Hope they take the perps alive.

[Squinch]

6. Oh, God. Those poor people.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

7. I don't want to jinx us but we are doing a good job here preventing similar attacks.

That being said lone wolves could inflict a lot of damage.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

19. Orlando. N.T.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

25. Lone wolves...

I don't know how you stop them.

[meow2u3]

28. Rein in right wing talk radio

They're the stochastic terrorists behind the lone wolves for the most part, especially in that it gives them plausible deniability. In any other country, the right-wing shock jocks would be presumed guilty of inciting terrorism, but they hide behind the Constitution, often successfully.

[Bluenorthwest]

30. You can't wave Orlando off using some catch phrase like 'lone wolf'. He was not that 'lone'

in that his wife took part in his assessing of his target, his father espoused the same anti-gay aggression and political delusions. He acted in context and along with family members up until the night, basically.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

31. Lone wolf=not part of a terrorist cell.

He pledged allegiance to Isis and Hezbollah, the former is a Sunni organization and the latter is a Shiite organization.

[seabeyond]

33. Yup. Nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

35. Thank you .

Mateen was a sociopathic homophobe but there in no evidence he was part of a terrorist organization.

[Statistical]

34. Is a pair of attackers working together really a lone wolf? n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

37. They weren't terrorist cells.

The attack on the Pulse nightclub in Orlando that killed 49 people is not only the deadliest terrorist attack in the United States since 9/11, it is more deadly than all the other jihadist attacks on U.S. soil since then combined.* But even though shooter Omar Mateen apparently pledged allegiance to ISIS in a last-minute 911 call, the assault is far from a classic ISIS strike, and we should be wary of conflating two very different kinds of events.

Initial reports indicate that Mateen is a lone wolf, inspired by a terrorist group’s ideology but not under its operational control. Recognizing the difference between “ISIS inspired” and “ISIS directed” attacks is vital. ISIS-inspired attacks are more likely to be amateurish, and indeed the jihadist record of attacks in the United States since 9/11 but prior to Orlando is thankfully poor. The horrific nightclub attack shows what a loner with the right weaponry can do, but when ISIS directs an attack, as it did in Paris in 2015, the results are likely to be even bloodier.

http://tinyurl.com/zrjemkb

[sheshe2]

8. Dayum it all to hell.

[B2G]

9. At least 30 dead, 100 injured

Piece of shit terrorist dead.

[BooScout]

10. It's Bastille Day....

The Promenade was packed with families and tourists out to have a stroll and see the fireworks.

[NightWatcher]

11. Isis is a fucking death cult and they want us to nuke the Middle East

Actually they want a ground war so they can kill our soldiers, but if they keep it up a President Trump will promise and deliver nukes from the sky on January 25, 2017

[jmg257]

12. At least 60 dead reported now. nt

[Glimmer of Hope]

16. Crap.

[jmg257]

17. Yeah - not good. Truck went through 200M+ of roadway packed with people, then shoots up crowd. :( nt

[6chars]

13. bummer, man

[KMOD]

14. oh no.

[tenderfoot]

15. ISIS sure likes to scare people into voting for conservatives

that support racism, xenophobia, aggressive foreign policy and torture.

[NightWatcher]

18. So 1 guy in a delivery truck can kill 60+

Didn't need a bomb, gun, knife, nothing. We're going to need to work on physical security.

I feel so bad for the families.

No more plastic barricades like this:






These need to be all over the place instead:




If you're at a public event with your family, be careful.

[Corporate666]

21. How does that help?

Installing pop-up barriers everywhere that a plurality of people could be?

We would have them every 10 feet along the roadway as well as hardened crash barriers along every street. I'm sure it would only cost several trillion dollars that we don't have.

IMO the better solution, as with all stuff like this, is not to try to combat the tools that the crazies use, but rather to identify the crazies themselves and stop them.

[NightWatcher]

24. You don't install them every 10 feet. You use choke points

This was along a public promenade. You'd need barricades at each end and choke points along access routes.

DC and many other major metropolitan cities already use these around strategic gathering places and potential targets.

Lone wolves will hunt out soft targets, so we must harden these places, because there's no way to find each religious nut with an Internet connection.

[LeftyMom]

23. Most places around here have either big concrete planters or waist high concrete pillars.

Either to stop vehicle-as-weapon, vehicle-as-entry-method for robberies, and vehicle-through-crowd.

Remember that case a few years back where some addled senior ran a Buick through a farmer's market?

[benld74]

22. Prayers sent

[mwrguy]

26. 73 dead, 100+ injured

per the Guardian.

[mcar]

27. Again....

[bdwker]

29. Europe started its slow motion death decades ago.

And now they are figuring it out.

Sad...too little, too late.

[cosmicone]

32. I was watching French TV (RTF)

to see Eiffel tower fireworks ...

And this sad news came on .... >60 dead hundreds injured.

[X_Digger]

36. Fuck! :( n/t