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kpete

(71,996 posts)
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 09:21 AM Jul 2016

Neil deGrasse Tyson: Dark Matters


As for me, I had a dozen different encounters to draw from. There was the time I was stopped late at night at an underpass on an empty road in New Jersey for having changed lanes without signaling. The officer told me to get out of my car and questioned me for ten minutes around back with the bright head lights of his squad car illuminating my face. Is this your car? Yes. Who is the woman in the passenger seat? My wife. Where are you coming from? My parents house. Where are you going? Home. What do you do for a living? I am an astrophysicist at Princeton University. What’s in your trunk? A spare tire, and a lot of other greasy junk. He went on to say that the “real reason” why he stopped me was because my car’s license plates were much newer and shinier than the 17-year old Ford that I was driving. The officer was just making sure that neither the car nor the plates were stolen.

In my other stories, I had been stopped by the police while transporting my home supply of physics textbooks into my newly assigned office in graduate school. They had stopped me at the entrance to the physics building where they asked accusatory questions about what I was doing. This one was complicated because a friend offered to drive me and my boxes to my office (I had not yet learned to drive). Her car was registered in her father’s name. It was 11:30 PM. Open-topped boxes of graduate math and physics textbooks filled the trunk. And we were transporting them into the building. I wonder how often that scenario shows up in police training tapes. In total, I was stopped two or three times by other security officers while entering physics buildings, but was never stopped entering the campus gym.

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We were guilty not of DWI (Driving While Intoxicated), but of other violations none of us knew were on the books: DWB (Driving While Black), WWB (Walking While Black), and of course, JBB (Just Being Black).


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Neil deGrasse Tyson: Dark Matters (Original Post) kpete Jul 2016 OP
Sad commentary that reflects on all of us. I love this guy. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #1
NdGT is so damned cool. longship Jul 2016 #2
Really? former9thward Jul 2016 #27
Well, you have Randall, Gates, and Tyson speculating wildly. longship Jul 2016 #28
He's moderating a fucking panel! longship Jul 2016 #29
He directly says "I think the likelihood may be very high" former9thward Jul 2016 #33
I'll stand by my posts. longship Jul 2016 #34
kpete and JG still exist 4 REAL! Jeffersons Ghost Jul 2016 #30
K/R marmar Jul 2016 #3
this man heaven05 Jul 2016 #4
The Future of the Human Race Pagan_Engineer Jul 2016 #5
PE I (67) have to agree with you - NoMoreRepugs Jul 2016 #9
A reasonable expectation especially considering how willfully stubborn too many of us calimary Jul 2016 #11
concerning climate change... 63splitwindow Jul 2016 #20
Hey, Delphinus Jul 2016 #22
Welcome to DU!! (eom) StevieM Jul 2016 #25
NdGT is an excellent writer. Thank you for posting. Calista241 Jul 2016 #6
Neil is the closest person we look to as a pastor LakeArenal Jul 2016 #7
^ This. NT pablo_marmol Jul 2016 #10
... handmade34 Jul 2016 #8
K&R ismnotwasm Jul 2016 #12
K&R napkinz Jul 2016 #13
I still think the practice of "shunning" might work for this kind of cop. n/t raven mad Jul 2016 #14
Truly sad Calculating Jul 2016 #15
I am deeply ashamed of this country! Silver_Witch Jul 2016 #16
K&R Solly Mack Jul 2016 #17
While I'm sure there a few.... forkol Jul 2016 #18
I am sorry Delphinus Jul 2016 #23
Those cops couldn't get past page one of any of those physics books.... lindysalsagal Jul 2016 #19
Classy man making HEAVY science accessible to the masses. nt 63splitwindow Jul 2016 #21
lostening to a story on NPR, white people are not happy w/ losing their privileges, oops, equality. pansypoo53219 Jul 2016 #24
Why does he care? former9thward Jul 2016 #26
Twice you spew this rubbish in this thread. longship Jul 2016 #31
Sorry facts bother you so much. former9thward Jul 2016 #32
Here! longship Jul 2016 #35

longship

(40,416 posts)
2. NdGT is so damned cool.
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 09:37 AM
Jul 2016

There's yet another person who rolled 18 on charisma. He also rolled 18 on intelligence.


longship

(40,416 posts)
28. Well, you have Randall, Gates, and Tyson speculating wildly.
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 02:40 AM
Jul 2016

What do you expect?

Haven't watched the video yet. Will do soon.

longship

(40,416 posts)
29. He's moderating a fucking panel!
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 03:56 AM
Jul 2016

Last edited Fri Jul 15, 2016, 11:25 AM - Edit history (2)

So he stays out of the corners and lets these incredibly bright people speak their minds.

I have a huge respect for the panel. Randall, Gates, Tegmark, and that incredibly eloquent MIT physicist whose name is unspellable.

This was the Isaac Asimov debate. And as Neil clearly stated at the beginning, this would be not an adversarial discussion.

And nobody could credibly accuse Neil deGrasse Tyson of advocating a simulated universe in this discussion. Rather, he enabled a discussion on the topic by a group of rather intelligent people.

BIG DIFFERENCE!!!

I got through about half of the two hour video before my bandwidth crashed. That was enough to know that your objection is utter bollocks.

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
30. kpete and JG still exist 4 REAL!
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 04:32 AM
Jul 2016

Who wants to cease to exist? If you ever need any help from above (and I don't mean God) let me know. We've got your back... [LOL FBI]


Do you want go Trump-troll hunting, like old times?

Pagan_Engineer

(2 posts)
5. The Future of the Human Race
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 10:42 AM
Jul 2016

At 68, I am pretty sure that the human race is doomed. We never seem to learn. It could be that I am too impatient for change but at my age I am in a bit of a hurry for some semblance of learning, compassion, and justice.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,435 posts)
9. PE I (67) have to agree with you -
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 11:33 AM
Jul 2016

after all we should be at this point in time our most enlightened, most educated, most 'evolved' and yet we have an orange buffoon who has the support of a fair portion of the populace....

calimary

(81,322 posts)
11. A reasonable expectation especially considering how willfully stubborn too many of us
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 11:59 AM
Jul 2016

remain - as far as DOING SOMETHING about Climate Change!!!! Willfully stubborn and proudly stupid! Their denial and stupidity is gonna kill us all. And MAN will they be shocked when Jesus doesn't come back and simply wave His magic wand and fix everything they broke and cleanse everything they poisoned.

 

63splitwindow

(2,657 posts)
20. concerning climate change...
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 07:14 PM
Jul 2016

You are giving the vast majority of the deniers FAR too much credit. They are people with a financial interest in the fossil fuel industry, whether said interest is huge or miniscule. From the CEO at BP to the least paid employee at any business in any way involved, directly or indirectly, in fossil fuel products.

Delphinus

(11,831 posts)
22. Hey,
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 08:17 PM
Jul 2016

great second post. Welcome to DU - and you are not the only one impatient for compassion and justice. Please continue to share.

LakeArenal

(28,820 posts)
7. Neil is the closest person we look to as a pastor
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 11:01 AM
Jul 2016

He speaks for me on all thing creation-wise. Love love love.

 

Silver_Witch

(1,820 posts)
16. I am deeply ashamed of this country!
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 03:21 PM
Jul 2016

Deeply.

When any man or woman is stopped simply because of the color ofthier skin we should alone ashamed!

forkol

(113 posts)
18. While I'm sure there a few....
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 06:07 PM
Jul 2016

good police officers in NJ, I for one left NJ because of the constant pull overs I got while I lived there.

Pulled over 7 TIMES in NJ in the four-year period I lived there, never once a ticket.

The incident(s) Neil describes are eerily like mine, right down to the same questions. They would pull you over for BS reasons, really just a fishing expedition.

I get tired of folks who think that it's only 'criminal' types that are the ones who suffer. Or folks that always say 'well, if they just co-operate or be more respectful to law enforcement". I have a MS degree in Computer Science and like Neil, lived/worked in suburban NJ. It doesn't matter one bit. As Malcolm X said, what do you call a black man with a Ph.D? A nigger!

I get tired of those on the right who talk about college education being important to success, and then when folks get it, they still get treated badly, or in the case of the President, they call him stupid and dumb, even though he graduated from the same school they themselves or their kids graduated from!

I read some of the responses to this thread about people at their age giving up on things getting better. You guys are a bit older than me, I just had my 50th birthday recently, and I too am already at that point. The incidents this past week, I have just pretty much given up, and don't even want to discuss them with anybody, friends, workmates, etc. I'm 'tired of being sick and tired'. The truly sad thing is, that's not my personality at all, to just give up!

Delphinus

(11,831 posts)
23. I am sorry
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 08:22 PM
Jul 2016

you have experienced this in your life.

I am grateful you are here to share your wisdom and to share your pain. There are many a day I think this experiment of human-kind has failed and we deserve extinction.

lindysalsagal

(20,692 posts)
19. Those cops couldn't get past page one of any of those physics books....
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 06:25 PM
Jul 2016

It was obviously theft: They were putting books into a campus lecture hall.

The stupid: It hurts.

former9thward

(32,025 posts)
26. Why does he care?
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 02:16 AM
Jul 2016

He thinks the universe is just a computer simulation.

Why anyone pays attention to him is beyond me.

Neil deGrasse Tyson says it’s ‘very likely’ the universe is a simulation.

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/227126-neil-degrasse-tyson-says-its-very-likely-the-universe-is-a-simulation

longship

(40,416 posts)
31. Twice you spew this rubbish in this thread.
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 11:51 AM
Jul 2016

Nobody can view that video and conclude that he had any opinion such as you claim.

He was the moderator. And I cannot think that any of the panelists agree with the proposition either. My favorite was the woman MIT physicist whose name I cannot recall. Although I am a big fan of James Gates, Tegmark, and Randall, I am going to be following that woman closely. As soon as I get her name. She rolled 18 on both charisma and intelligence. I have become a huge fan.

And your posts here are absolute tosh.

former9thward

(32,025 posts)
32. Sorry facts bother you so much.
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 02:00 PM
Jul 2016

A direct quote from him and from Scientific American.

Moderator Neil deGrasse Tyson, director of the museum’s Hayden Planetarium, put the odds at 50-50 that our entire existence is a program on someone else’s hard drive. “I think the likelihood may be very high,” he said.



Spin your hero's words away. Good luck.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/are-we-living-in-a-computer-simulation/

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