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Stellar

(5,644 posts)
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 09:08 AM Jul 2016

Centrist Dems wary of public option push

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More at link: The Hill

Centrist Democrats appear reluctant to join their party’s embrace of a public option for ObamaCare.

The idea of adding a government-run insurance option to compete with private insurers is making a comeback in the Democratic Party, with President Obama endorsing the idea Monday, two days after Hillary Clinton emphasized a public option as part of an effort to win over Bernie Sanders and his supporters.

But among more centrist members of the Senate, where the “public option” was stopped in 2009, there is little enthusiasm for the idea.
Sen. Heidi Heitkamp (D), who represents conservative-leaning North Dakota, pushed back the hardest.

“I think it's critically important that we stop trying to complicate healthcare and we start taking a look at what needs to be fixed in ObamaCare,” Heitkamp said. “Until we actually have those conversations and we have bipartisan support, I think it's unrealistic to assume that we're going to see any kind of expansion of care.”

Heitkamp proposed tweaks to the health law, along with other centrist Democrats, in 2014, such as streamlining reporting requirements to lighten the load on businesses.

While a public option has no chance of passing so long as Republicans control the House and Senate, it’s far from certain that the idea could pass a Democratic Congress, given the skepticism or outright opposition among centrists like Heitkamp.

Sen. Joe Donnelly (D-Ind.), another Democrat from a red-leaning state, referred questions to his press office when asked if he supported a public option. His press office did not respond to inquiries.

Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.), who survived a reelection scare in 2014, was noncommittal on the question of a public option, pivoting to a different change he’d like to see in ObamaCare.

He called for addressing the requirement in ObamaCare for providing coverage to people who work more than 30 hours per week. Critics of the law say that requirement has created an incentive for employers be push people into part-time positions.

“As we talk about other options we also have to address things like [the] 29 to 30 hour cliff,” Warner said.
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Centrist Dems wary of public option push (Original Post) Stellar Jul 2016 OP
The very reason why single payer would be a major struggle. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #1
Actually, it's the very reason we should primary these "conservative" Democrats with real NorthCarolina Jul 2016 #3
+1 leftstreet Jul 2016 #9
+2 B Calm Jul 2016 #12
They should embrace the party platform. B Calm Jul 2016 #2
The 29-hour cliff does need to be addressed bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #4
One of the reasons public option is needed. KPN Jul 2016 #5
I support the public option but bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #6
This is unbelievable. We're decades behind other industrialized nations on this. HughBeaumont Jul 2016 #7
That POS said we need to wait for theaocp Jul 2016 #8
You accuse her of dishonesty bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #10
That she's stated she wants Republican support theaocp Jul 2016 #11
I have no problem with a public option SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2016 #13
 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
1. The very reason why single payer would be a major struggle.
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 09:12 AM
Jul 2016

This baby step will be a hard fight to win.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
3. Actually, it's the very reason we should primary these "conservative" Democrats with real
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 09:32 AM
Jul 2016

Democrats and boot their asses back to the GOP. Those are the same Democrats that vote regularly with the GOP anyway...especially Heidi.

bluedye33139

(1,474 posts)
4. The 29-hour cliff does need to be addressed
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 09:48 AM
Jul 2016

Home Depot, among other companies, keeps the bulk of its staff at 28 hours per week in order to avoid being required to provide health insurance. The 29-hour cliff is one of the biggest anti-ACA talking points, and it resonates with working people very much.

And I'd be very interested in seeing solutions to this.

bluedye33139

(1,474 posts)
6. I support the public option but
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 10:32 AM
Jul 2016

I support the public option, but that does not address the requirement that companies provide insurance at 30 hours and above. That would be a different fix, no?

I think the better solution would be to have a health authority like Canada or the UK, with universal coverage and (unfortunately) rigorous cost control.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
7. This is unbelievable. We're decades behind other industrialized nations on this.
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 11:03 AM
Jul 2016

It's the pinnacle of idiocy that we're still arguing in support of a for-profit healthcare system when it's painfully obvious that it's helping NO one but the upper-middle-classers and above.

And GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE with this horseshit argument that we don't have the money for this. I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT. If bombing countries and corporate pork are replacing due human rights on our spending priority list, then we're in deep shit.

But hey, keep buying the same old "Cold War" Red-bait CRAP, Dumberica, as you willingly drown in medical bankruptcies for the crime of getting sick.

I'll bet there's going to be SOME nation out there who'll wise up and switch from their "CommieCare" to our "Best Helth Care In Thuh WORLD!" any day now; I can just FEEL it!

theaocp

(4,241 posts)
8. That POS said we need to wait for
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 11:53 AM
Jul 2016

Republican support before expanding care? So, why not just say you're not for expanding care? It's more honest.

bluedye33139

(1,474 posts)
10. You accuse her of dishonesty
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 01:03 PM
Jul 2016

You accuse her of dishonesty because you believe that she is secretly opposed to single-payer? Do you have any evidence for your accusation?

theaocp

(4,241 posts)
11. That she's stated she wants Republican support
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 01:22 PM
Jul 2016

for this liberal idea. If she's not dishonest about the approach, she's a blithering moron. Take your pick.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
13. I have no problem with a public option
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 09:41 PM
Jul 2016

but I don't think it will be at a significantly lower cost than what's available now, either in terms of premiums or co-pays/deductibles.

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