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applegrove

(118,696 posts)
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 08:49 PM Jul 2016

The bright side of Brexit: Leaving the European Union could create a more just Britain

The bright side of Brexit: Leaving the European Union could create a more just Britain


GEORGE LAKEY, WAGING NONVIOLENCE, Salon

http://www.salon.com/2016/07/13/the_bright_side_of_brexit_leaving_the_european_union_could_create_a_more_just_britain_partner/

"SNIP...............



I know British voters who likewise want the chance for a foreign policy more peaceful than the European Union’s. When their peace campaigns bear fruit, they want Britain to be free to implement fresh policies rather than toe the line of the European Union (or, of course, the line of a militarist United States).

Just as important, Brits who have suffered from the post-2008 austerity program of massive cutbacks in health, education and other needs have an excellent reason to want freedom from the E.U.’s rule by the 1 percent. Their fight is with Britain’s own economic elite, and when they start winning again — as they did in the first half of the 20th century — they likewise want the freedom Norwegians have to implement social democracy.

For my book, I checked the international ratings that compare countries by measures of well-being like equality, poverty-prevention, health care, parental leave, elder care, individual freedom, etc. Typically, the ratings put the Nordic countries at the top. In the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development list of the richest countries in the world, the United States is typically at or near the bottom of the ratings, and the United Kingdom somewhere in the middle. Within living memory of older people, the United Kingdom placed higher. Their struggles had achieved more equality and shared prosperity. But the longer they stayed in the European Union, the farther down in the ratings they went.

In the light of that track record for E.U. membership, who can say it was irrational to vote for Brexit? And who can fail to notice that so much of the working class, which has fared the worst in this downward trend, rejected the advice of its Labor Party leadership and voted to get out?


.................SNIP"

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JanMichael

(24,890 posts)
1. I know of some far Left folks that voted for Brexit.
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 09:08 PM
Jul 2016

I myself am very far to the old Left but am not so sure about their hopefulness.

I hope I am wrong though.

applegrove

(118,696 posts)
2. It is a shame because the Bank of England governor was working with his colleagues in the EU to
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 09:36 PM
Jul 2016

mitigate against the worst excesses of unregulated banking.

 

Albertoo

(2,016 posts)
4. The author has no clue what he's talking about (and doesn't appear to notice facts)
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 12:02 AM
Jul 2016

English voters vote Conservative. Brexit will cause Scotland (which votes Progressive) to secede. The Conservative majority in England will be reinforced.

Since Brexit will hurt business (major companies have already declared they will shift jobs to the continent), the pro business governement's answer will be to lower taxes (it has already announced plans to do so). AND the English Brexiters want to cut immigration.

Summary: Brexit will inevitably lead to a more capitalist, less egalitarian England.

applegrove

(118,696 posts)
5. The new PM said she would focus on making things better for all
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 01:00 AM
Jul 2016

British. So that is already a change in a positive direction.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
6. And then she appointed Boris Johnson as Foreign Secretary, and Liam Fox at International Trade
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 04:04 AM
Jul 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141517948 :
Boris Johnson appointed UK foreign secretary by new PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/108811369 : OMG! - we are going to be a laughing stock abroad!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028008417 : Disgraced MP with close links to ALEC appointed as UK International Trade Secretary

pampango

(24,692 posts)
13. A new Conservative prime minister says she will make things better for all British.
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 10:58 PM
Jul 2016

What did you expect her to say? There is a reason that Brirosh unions and liberals largely opposed Brexit. It was not because they thought Brexit would be good for their 99%.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
9. I guess nobody told Lakey
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 06:09 AM
Jul 2016

That the vast majority of people who voted to leave did it because they thought it would kick the immigrants and non-whites out....

 

Albertoo

(2,016 posts)
12. Brexit will go down in history as a prime example of misuse of democracy
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 07:50 PM
Jul 2016

A question which was not really yes or no,
but yes vs an array of conflicting, often poorly informed, noes

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