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Here are 23 ways that you can be killed in America, if you're black... (Original Post) MrScorpio Jul 2016 OP
This is fucking effing sad.. HipChick Jul 2016 #1
What Hipchick said. raven mad Jul 2016 #17
Thanks MrScorpio Dyedinthewoolliberal Jul 2016 #2
Agree 1000% HipChick Jul 2016 #3
The larger dominant culture doesn't need educating. They know exactly what's going on. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2016 #4
So right.. HipChick Jul 2016 #8
I don't agree Dyedinthewoolliberal Jul 2016 #12
Liberal_Stalwart71, I respectfully disagree. raven mad Jul 2016 #18
Not my experience at all. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2016 #33
Well done. KeepItReal Jul 2016 #5
I've seen it with my own eyes. Solly Mack Jul 2016 #6
Thank You rbrnmw Jul 2016 #7
Mario Woods stabbed a random person oberliner Jul 2016 #9
Oh, so those are both death penalty offenses? Well, okay then. TygrBright Jul 2016 #10
Of course not oberliner Jul 2016 #23
He was walking away when an officer stepped in his path and shot him Ash_F Jul 2016 #11
Yes, that was completely unjustified oberliner Jul 2016 #24
We know whose lives matter IronLionZion Jul 2016 #16
Instant public execution is sickening oberliner Jul 2016 #25
What TygrBright said. raven mad Jul 2016 #19
I did not mean to give that impression oberliner Jul 2016 #26
Heck, oberliner, we all knew that. raven mad Jul 2016 #27
Thanks! oberliner Jul 2016 #31
0. Here are 23 ways that you can be killed in America, if you're black... solara Jul 2016 #13
It would be nice if you could devote half of the front page to this for a day or two. n/t jtuck004 Jul 2016 #14
K&R HipChick Jul 2016 #15
K&R. nt tblue37 Jul 2016 #20
Eric Garner daughter together zentrum Jul 2016 #21
reboot the world!! handmade34 Jul 2016 #22
wow treestar Jul 2016 #28
Ron Sims former King county executive (Washington state) ismnotwasm Jul 2016 #29
Jamar Clark was a thug who beat the shit out of a woman and then went after the paramedics who were Beausoir Jul 2016 #30
Here is the video: demmiblue Jul 2016 #32
Thom Hartmann just mentioned this post on his radio show. nt Snotcicles Jul 2016 #34
k+r Blue_Tires Jul 2016 #35
I really feel for black people in this country seanbnewyork4 Jul 2016 #36

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,586 posts)
2. Thanks MrScorpio
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 02:24 PM
Jul 2016

The ONLY way things will change for the AA community and other minority populations is relentless, constant, continuous reminders of this situation. and education of the dominant culture.

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,586 posts)
12. I don't agree
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 04:21 PM
Jul 2016

racism is taught and institutionalized racism is hard to detect. To say the large culture knows what's going on and doesn't care is too broad of a generalization, for my point of view.

raven mad

(4,940 posts)
18. Liberal_Stalwart71, I respectfully disagree.
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 07:01 PM
Jul 2016

That's way too much a blanket condemnation of anyone who is white. I am, and yeah, I know what's going on, and I'm working hard in my community to educate and change the system.

I do, however, understand your frustratopm. I'd be more than bitter.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
33. Not my experience at all.
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 11:08 AM
Jul 2016

I've long since lost count of the people I've seen educated who became horrified when they were drawn out of their unique perspective and began to realize what was going on.

Trevor Noah made that point eloquently on The Daily Show when referencing the cat call video as he addressed the institutionalized racism in law enforcement. He shared a poignant and relevant personal experience of his reaction when he realized he had no clue what women endure daily on the streets.

It's much the same thing. If you're in a position of advantage, you're often blind to the reality that what you consider the normal state of being is in fact an advantage, and others don't have what you take for granted.

Solly Mack

(90,779 posts)
6. I've seen it with my own eyes.
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 03:07 PM
Jul 2016

For absolutely nothing, black men at the mercy of the police for nothing more than being black.



 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
9. Mario Woods stabbed a random person
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 03:18 PM
Jul 2016

He then pulled out a knife when officers tried to arrest him for doing so.

TygrBright

(20,763 posts)
10. Oh, so those are both death penalty offenses? Well, okay then.
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 03:45 PM
Jul 2016

I must have missed the memo that appointed arresting officers judge, jury and executioner for anyone who commits these particular death penalty offenses.

And after all, a guy in street clothes with a knife can kill a fully-trained, fully-equipped law enforcement officer instantly so even if they weren't sure he'd committed the death-penalty offenses, lethal force was totally justified.

in case anyone can't figure it out...

wearily,
Bright

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
23. Of course not
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 09:11 PM
Jul 2016

His shooting was completely unjustified.

I just think his circumstances were different from the others on this list in several ways.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
11. He was walking away when an officer stepped in his path and shot him
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 03:48 PM
Jul 2016

What happened to tasers and pepper spray? They only seem to use those on harmless protesters.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
24. Yes, that was completely unjustified
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 09:12 PM
Jul 2016

I just think grouping him with some of the others on the list does a disservice to them.

IronLionZion

(45,498 posts)
16. We know whose lives matter
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 05:10 PM
Jul 2016

instant public execution is something that the colorblind folks will never experience

Meanwhile whites have pointed loaded guns at police officers, threatened them, and lived to do it again.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
25. Instant public execution is sickening
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 09:13 PM
Jul 2016

What happened and what continues to happen to young black males especially is a crime of the highest order that needs to be addressed immediately.

That being said, there are significant differences between the circumstances in this instance versus the others.

solara

(3,836 posts)
13. 0. Here are 23 ways that you can be killed in America, if you're black...
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 04:26 PM
Jul 2016

Last edited Wed Jul 13, 2016, 08:13 PM - Edit history (1)

Here are a few more:

24.Breathing while black
25.Sleeping while black
26.Walking while black
27.Living while black
28. Jogging while black
29. Sitting while black
30. Drawing any kind of attention to one's self, while black
31. Sitting in your car while black
32. Reading and sitting in your car while black.

Or so it seems to me

I could be wrong

Maybe I am just over the top fed up

But Black Lives DO Matter, dammit







zentrum

(9,865 posts)
21. Eric Garner daughter together
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 07:35 PM
Jul 2016

…with Matt Taibbi who investigated the matter say that Mr Garner was not even selling cigarettes. He was just in the wrong place at the wrong time and maybe even targeted by the lead policeman.

ismnotwasm

(41,998 posts)
29. Ron Sims former King county executive (Washington state)
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 11:03 PM
Jul 2016

Gave this interview and is sharing his story. It is terrifying.

Later, when I served on a panel that would recommend a new police chief to Seattle Mayor Ed Murray, I shared with each candidate that I had been stopped by Seattle officers seven times. No one questioned the racial implications of my statement. I wanted to alert them to the need for training.

I had also confided the stops to members of my security detail during my 13 years as King County Executive. Their advice: When stopped by police while driving, put my registration, driver’s license and insurance card on the dashboard; roll down the window and keep both of my hands on the wheel. If it’s at night, do all of this after turning on the dome light. This is what I did earlier this year at my eighth stop.

Cayan and I drink a lot of coffee. My favorite blend comes from Peet’s Coffee across from Green Lake. One morning I was driving to Peet’s because we had run out of coffee. As I pulled up to the stoplight at Rainier Avenue South and South Dearborn Street, I saw the blue and red lights behind me. A voice over the loud speaker said I was stopped because a headlight was out.

The officer ran my plates and walked up to my car. I gave him my car registration, driver’s license and insurance card. I kept saying to myself, why didn’t the officer just tell me that I had a headlight out?

http://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/ron-sims-gives-his-take-on-driving-while-black-in-seattle/
 

Beausoir

(7,540 posts)
30. Jamar Clark was a thug who beat the shit out of a woman and then went after the paramedics who were
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 11:56 PM
Jul 2016

trying to treat her.

THEN...he went after a Cop's gun...(Clark's DNA was found on the gun) and Clark got shot.

All this is AFTER Jamar Clark threw a firebomb into his girlfriend's house WITH HER SMALL CHILDREN INSIDE.

Fuck you for trying to defend that piece of human shit.

 

seanbnewyork4

(32 posts)
36. I really feel for black people in this country
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 12:56 PM
Jul 2016

Even after all these years, they still are heavily discriminated against. And I fear things will only worsen in the future.

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