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snot

(10,538 posts)
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 03:14 AM Jul 2016

Just to be clear (re- recent events in Dallas):

the lynching was robotic. That doesn't mean it wasn't a lynching; it means it was institutional.

(This wasn't the act of individual, flawed cops; a chain of command had to have been involved.)

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Just to be clear (re- recent events in Dallas): (Original Post) snot Jul 2016 OP
educate yourself Skittles Jul 2016 #1
So Brown alone made the decision to lynch? snot Jul 2016 #2
Brown said he'd make the same decision again. Skittles Jul 2016 #3
Good for him. "The other option was to continue to negotiate for about 2 hrs." snot Jul 2016 #5
all I know is Chief Brown is a fine man, from what I have seen Skittles Jul 2016 #8
I appreciate that, and mean no disparagement of Chief Brown personally; snot Jul 2016 #10
I disagree Skittles Jul 2016 #13
No disparagement? rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #17
Do you then believe that anyone killed during the commission of a crime is a victim of lynching? LanternWaste Jul 2016 #21
Good question Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #30
You left out this part. annavictorious Jul 2016 #28
agreed. craigmatic Jul 2016 #4
thank you. snot Jul 2016 #6
To be extra-clear: snot Jul 2016 #7
yes Skittles Jul 2016 #9
Thx for the kick. snot Jul 2016 #11
oh you're very welcome Skittles Jul 2016 #12
Or oppression. Nt NCTraveler Jul 2016 #16
I feel more sorry about the robot than the racist terrorist. NobodyHere Jul 2016 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author AntiBank Jul 2016 #15
Of course there was a chain of command - man with 33 years of experience, jmg257 Jul 2016 #18
and if people don't heaven05 Jul 2016 #19
No worries - agreed....Simple actions/reactions that should be expected. nt jmg257 Jul 2016 #23
It was neither a lynching, nor was it institutional Dreamer Tatum Jul 2016 #20
in America heaven05 Jul 2016 #24
Too bad you weren't there to go in and read the shooter his rights. FSogol Jul 2016 #22
too bad heaven05 Jul 2016 #25
You are pro-victim in 2 cases and anti-victims in the other case. FSogol Jul 2016 #27
I have heaven05 Jul 2016 #29
The shooter continues to shoot and wanted to "lynch" more officers, Brown already Thinkingabout Jul 2016 #26

Skittles

(153,185 posts)
3. Brown said he'd make the same decision again.
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 03:26 AM
Jul 2016

I am not saying I agree with the decision - I find killing via robot / drone troubling, but I don't think Chief Brown's decision was based on color

snot

(10,538 posts)
5. Good for him. "The other option was to continue to negotiate for about 2 hrs."
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 03:39 AM
Jul 2016

Seriously??????:

"We had negotiated for about two hours . . . . I was planning a press conference; before I walked out the door, I said I want to plan when I come back from this press conference to end this, and I said use your creativeness to do it; when I got back, they presented to me . . . . "

I'm not saying this was an easy decision.

I started out wondering whether it could have been made without institutional involvement.

I now wonder whether it could have been made without institutional hand-washing (deliberate, egregious abdication).

(Let's find a black to take the rap for lynching blacks.)

Skittles

(153,185 posts)
8. all I know is Chief Brown is a fine man, from what I have seen
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 03:48 AM
Jul 2016

no way would his decision be based on color

that killer, he really did not know anything about the Dallas Police Department......of course it's not perfect but they have really been trying.....it is very diverse, and they have good relationships with the community

snot

(10,538 posts)
10. I appreciate that, and mean no disparagement of Chief Brown personally;
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 03:49 AM
Jul 2016

but it was still a lynching.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
21. Do you then believe that anyone killed during the commission of a crime is a victim of lynching?
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 01:42 PM
Jul 2016

Do you then believe that anyone killed during the commission of a crime is a victim of lynching? If not, what is the precise, specific and relevant difference between this particular instance and the premise contained in the question?

 

annavictorious

(934 posts)
28. You left out this part.
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 08:58 PM
Jul 2016

Brown: "And I began to feel that it was only at a split-second, he would charge us and take out many more before we would kill him. So, I asked right -- I was planning a press conference. Before I walked out the door, I said, I want to plan when I come back from this press conference, to end this. And I said, use your creativeness to come up with a plan to do it."

Is it your theory that in the interest of lynching a black man via fancy, high tech robot bomb, Those Who Control Dallas (i.e. the Institution) first determined that they needed to set up someone in the role of Black Decider so that the public would be tricked into thinking that this was an effort to stop a murderer from further murder, rather than what it really was, an extremely creative lynching?


snot

(10,538 posts)
7. To be extra-clear:
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 03:47 AM
Jul 2016

Robots, guns, even mental health, though important, are distractions from what should be the main event: racism.

Response to snot (Original post)

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
18. Of course there was a chain of command - man with 33 years of experience,
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 08:54 AM
Jul 2016

a BA, an MBA, SWAT experience, Anti-terrorist & FBI training, etc etc made the call.

I'll have to side with him on this one.


On Edit: Just to be clear, a tip - if you don't want to be killed by a police sniper, or blown up by a police robot, or burnt out by police in your hold-out, don't start executing police.

Dorner and Johnson got the message.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
19. and if people don't
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 11:55 AM
Jul 2016

want cops murdered, then cops have to stop murdering unarmed civilians who pose no lethal threat. Pretty simple. Thanks for bringing up Dorner, I had my reservations about that man being killed. Thanks again.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
20. It was neither a lynching, nor was it institutional
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 12:00 PM
Jul 2016

It was a murderous asshole righteously killed before he could kill more.

End of story.
 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
24. in America
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 08:24 PM
Jul 2016

in this area of human relations there will never be an end of the story. The reason(s) for this "murderous asshole" are myriad. He was wrong to kill, but no more wrong than those murderous asshioles in La. and Minn.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
25. too bad
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 08:28 PM
Jul 2016

the two murdered in La. and Minn. weren't read their rights before their extra judicial executions.

FSogol

(45,525 posts)
27. You are pro-victim in 2 cases and anti-victims in the other case.
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 08:34 PM
Jul 2016

That's called situational ethics. Think about that.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
29. I have
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 08:59 PM
Jul 2016

you can think what you please. I stand by what I wrote. I'm anti murder, extra judicial under authority of the state or by an angry shooter, period. I had a policeman live next door to me part of my childhood. A very good man. Died trying to save his daughter from drowning. They both died. You can't break down my ethics into your skewed view of right and wrong. More situational than I methinks, so please stop trying. All police are not bad, just the bad ones and those forced into being silent about their racist, murderous colleagues.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
26. The shooter continues to shoot and wanted to "lynch" more officers, Brown already
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 08:34 PM
Jul 2016

Had 12 officers shot, of which 5 died, should the "lynching" he allowed to continue?

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