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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJust to be clear (re- recent events in Dallas):
the lynching was robotic. That doesn't mean it wasn't a lynching; it means it was institutional.
(This wasn't the act of individual, flawed cops; a chain of command had to have been involved.)
Skittles
(153,185 posts)snot
(10,538 posts)Thanks.
That doesn't make it right.
Skittles
(153,185 posts)I am not saying I agree with the decision - I find killing via robot / drone troubling, but I don't think Chief Brown's decision was based on color
snot
(10,538 posts)Seriously??????:
"We had negotiated for about two hours . . . . I was planning a press conference; before I walked out the door, I said I want to plan when I come back from this press conference to end this, and I said use your creativeness to do it; when I got back, they presented to me . . . . "
I'm not saying this was an easy decision.
I started out wondering whether it could have been made without institutional involvement.
I now wonder whether it could have been made without institutional hand-washing (deliberate, egregious abdication).
(Let's find a black to take the rap for lynching blacks.)
Skittles
(153,185 posts)no way would his decision be based on color
that killer, he really did not know anything about the Dallas Police Department......of course it's not perfect but they have really been trying.....it is very diverse, and they have good relationships with the community
snot
(10,538 posts)but it was still a lynching.
Skittles
(153,185 posts)rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)You accuse a man of lynching but no disparagement?
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Do you then believe that anyone killed during the commission of a crime is a victim of lynching? If not, what is the precise, specific and relevant difference between this particular instance and the premise contained in the question?
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Silence is deafening
annavictorious
(934 posts)Brown: "And I began to feel that it was only at a split-second, he would charge us and take out many more before we would kill him. So, I asked right -- I was planning a press conference. Before I walked out the door, I said, I want to plan when I come back from this press conference, to end this. And I said, use your creativeness to come up with a plan to do it."
Is it your theory that in the interest of lynching a black man via fancy, high tech robot bomb, Those Who Control Dallas (i.e. the Institution) first determined that they needed to set up someone in the role of Black Decider so that the public would be tricked into thinking that this was an effort to stop a murderer from further murder, rather than what it really was, an extremely creative lynching?
craigmatic
(4,510 posts)snot
(10,538 posts)snot
(10,538 posts)Robots, guns, even mental health, though important, are distractions from what should be the main event: racism.
when a gunman picks off people based on their race, THAT IS RACISM
snot
(10,538 posts)Skittles
(153,185 posts)here, I will kick again so people can read for themselves
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)NobodyHere
(2,810 posts)Response to snot (Original post)
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jmg257
(11,996 posts)a BA, an MBA, SWAT experience, Anti-terrorist & FBI training, etc etc made the call.
I'll have to side with him on this one.
On Edit: Just to be clear, a tip - if you don't want to be killed by a police sniper, or blown up by a police robot, or burnt out by police in your hold-out, don't start executing police.
Dorner and Johnson got the message.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)want cops murdered, then cops have to stop murdering unarmed civilians who pose no lethal threat. Pretty simple. Thanks for bringing up Dorner, I had my reservations about that man being killed. Thanks again.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)It was a murderous asshole righteously killed before he could kill more.
End of story.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)in this area of human relations there will never be an end of the story. The reason(s) for this "murderous asshole" are myriad. He was wrong to kill, but no more wrong than those murderous asshioles in La. and Minn.
FSogol
(45,525 posts)the two murdered in La. and Minn. weren't read their rights before their extra judicial executions.
FSogol
(45,525 posts)That's called situational ethics. Think about that.
you can think what you please. I stand by what I wrote. I'm anti murder, extra judicial under authority of the state or by an angry shooter, period. I had a policeman live next door to me part of my childhood. A very good man. Died trying to save his daughter from drowning. They both died. You can't break down my ethics into your skewed view of right and wrong. More situational than I methinks, so please stop trying. All police are not bad, just the bad ones and those forced into being silent about their racist, murderous colleagues.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Had 12 officers shot, of which 5 died, should the "lynching" he allowed to continue?