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Botany

(70,616 posts)
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 03:39 PM Jul 2016

Palin; Sputnik "resulted in the inevitable collapse of the Soviet Union." Daily Kos

Palin completely misunderstands what "Sputnik Moment" means


Just about everyone knows that the phrase "Sputnik moment" refers to America's response to the Soviet launch of the Sputnik satellite and how it galvanized the nation to make the scientific and technological advantages that allowed us to go to the moon and beyond, but not Sarah Palin.

To Palin, the Sputnik moment was a bad thing for America and the fact that President Obama "would aspire Americans to celebrate" it represents a "WTF moment." Why? Because, she says, Sputnik "resulted in the inevitable collapse of the Soviet Union."

https://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/01/27/939263/-Palin-completely-misunderstands-what-Sputnik-Moment-means?detail=emailclassic&link_id=2&can_id=9d9ab9550f6f19d630ddc2d594a7bd47&source=email-this-photo-of-hillary-may-surprise-you-but-it-really-shouldnt&email_referrer=this-photo-of-hillary-may-surprise-you-but-it-really-shouldnt&email_subject=this-photo-of-hillary-may-surprise-you-but-it-really-shouldnt

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Palin; Sputnik "resulted in the inevitable collapse of the Soviet Union." Daily Kos (Original Post) Botany Jul 2016 OP
She's no different than so many others. HassleCat Jul 2016 #1
There truly is no limit to her stupidity. LonePirate Jul 2016 #2
Hey now Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2016 #24
Its as large as the Universe itself... yuiyoshida Jul 2016 #26
"would aspire americans"?? WHAT??????? niyad Jul 2016 #3
Just like, the fall of Carthage daleo Jul 2016 #4
My head hurts... Mass Jul 2016 #5
This is super old LostinRed Jul 2016 #6
It's not as if he left her to work out what 'Sputnik moment' meant - he explained it muriel_volestrangler Jul 2016 #7
You wonder how much stupider she can get kimbutgar Jul 2016 #8
The bucket of stupid is bottomless. sofa king Jul 2016 #11
Does this answer your question? hobbit709 Jul 2016 #14
McCain is cursing himself Motley13 Jul 2016 #28
Or if he isn't, he... 3catwoman3 Jul 2016 #29
Perestroika, Glasnost, Vodka - of the three, me thinks Sarah been hitting the last one hard. Rex Jul 2016 #9
To be kind malaise Jul 2016 #10
And we wonder why tigers eat their young....n/t Lance Bass esquire Jul 2016 #12
She thinks it a win when people call her stupid. Solly Mack Jul 2016 #13
One of my earliest memories was pressbox69 Jul 2016 #15
But pressbox69 Jul 2016 #16
Palin must be vying for Trump's Sec of State misterhighwasted Jul 2016 #17
Okay, let's say that Sputnik awoke_in_2003 Jul 2016 #18
What Americans really need to celebrate is.. Stuart G Jul 2016 #21
Unfortunately awoke_in_2003 Jul 2016 #23
OMG, the stupid hurts. deminks Jul 2016 #19
Sarah would say pressbox69 Jul 2016 #20
It gets better (or worse), when you find out about her 'Spudnut moment' muriel_volestrangler Jul 2016 #22
Every time she opens her mouth, this is what I hear awoke_in_2003 Jul 2016 #25
This is like a car crash pulled off to the side of the road. 3catwoman3 Jul 2016 #30
Having spoke in public before awoke_in_2003 Jul 2016 #32
I believe I understand her logic and I disagree. David__77 Jul 2016 #27
Palin is a space shot. TheCowsCameHome Jul 2016 #31

yuiyoshida

(41,867 posts)
26. Its as large as the Universe itself...
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 06:42 PM
Jul 2016

Please don't anyone put her on a spaceship! We would have galactic war within ten years!!

daleo

(21,317 posts)
4. Just like, the fall of Carthage
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 03:46 PM
Jul 2016

Led to the inevitable collapse of the Soviet Union. It makes about as much sense.

Mass

(27,315 posts)
5. My head hurts...
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 03:48 PM
Jul 2016

Why does anybody listen to her?

If it resulted in the inevitable collapse of the Soviet Union, why does Sarah Palin think it should not be celebrated? This escapes me totally? But I do not need to know, because she is definitively not interesting.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,391 posts)
7. It's not as if he left her to work out what 'Sputnik moment' meant - he explained it
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 04:05 PM
Jul 2016

in terms a 5th grader could understand. But not a half-term governor, evidently:

"Half a century ago, when the Soviets beat us into space with the launch of a satellite called Sputnik, we had no idea how we'd beat them to the moon," he told congress. "The science wasn't there yet. Nasa didn't even exist.

"But after investing in better research and education, we didn't just surpass the Soviets – we unleashed a wave of innovation that created new industries and millions of new jobs.

This is our generation's Sputnik moment. At stake is whether new jobs and industries take root in this country or somewhere else.

"It's whether the hard work and industry of our people is rewarded. It's whether we sustain the leadership that has made America not just a place on a map, but a light to the world."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jan/26/state-of-the-union-address-obama-sputnik-moment

kimbutgar

(21,224 posts)
8. You wonder how much stupider she can get
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 04:15 PM
Jul 2016

And then she says something so stupid it makes your head spin.

I will curse McCain until the day he dies for inflicting this woman on us.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
9. Perestroika, Glasnost, Vodka - of the three, me thinks Sarah been hitting the last one hard.
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 04:22 PM
Jul 2016

Glug glug glug

Solly Mack

(90,793 posts)
13. She thinks it a win when people call her stupid.
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 04:55 PM
Jul 2016

She's stupid enough to believe she has scored a victory when anyone calls her stupid.

Yes, she's that stupid.

pressbox69

(2,252 posts)
15. One of my earliest memories was
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 05:40 PM
Jul 2016

my Pop ranting about Sputnik back in 1957. I was not quite 2 and a half years old.

pressbox69

(2,252 posts)
16. But
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 05:54 PM
Jul 2016

the Gary Moore TV show did predict that the first man on the Moon would be named Armstrong, this was in a sketch about one month before Alan Shepard became the first American in space. 1961.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
18. Okay, let's say that Sputnik
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 06:09 PM
Jul 2016

somehow resulted in the inevitable collapse of the Soviet Union (my head is starting to hurt)- shouldn't Americans celebrate that?

Stuart G

(38,453 posts)
21. What Americans really need to celebrate is..
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 06:19 PM
Jul 2016

...Sara Know Very Little....... is quickly becoming a very small item in the news...smaller and smaller each day.

John Mc Cain lost to Obama..and Sara began her long slide into nothingness..which will become steeper down each time around and each day...

.yes Obama's win needs to celebrated in several ways!!!!

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
23. Unfortunately
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 06:39 PM
Jul 2016

that slide is very long, and not very steep. I will celebrate the day we never hear from this nitwit again.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,391 posts)
22. It gets better (or worse), when you find out about her 'Spudnut moment'
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 06:26 PM
Jul 2016

that she prefered to the government-led NASA:

So I listened to that Sputnik moment talk over and over again, and I think, No, we don't need one of those. You know what we need is a "spudnut" moment. And here's where I'm going with this, Greta. And you're a good one because you're one of those reporters who actually gets out there in the communities, find these hard-working people and find solutions to the problems that Americans face.

Well, the spudnut shop in Richland, Washington -- it's a bakery, it's a little coffee shop that's so successful, 60-some years, generation to generation, a family-owned business not looking for government to bail them out and to make their decisions for them. It's just hard-working, patriotic Americans in this shop.

We need more spudnut moments in America. And I wish that President Obama would understand, in that heartland of America, what it is that really results in the solutions that we need to get this economy back on the right track. It's a shop like that.

http://nation.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/26/palin-obamas-state-union-sputnik-references-were-wtf-moments

But - the true economic history of the Spudnut shop:

After brothers Al and Bob Pelton of Salt Lake City ate potato-based doughnuts in Germany, they tried a number of things, from wheat dough that was flavored with potato water to using mashed potatoes, before creating a dry potato mix that not only worked for them but made it possible to franchise the concept.[1] They coined the word "spudnut", and went into business in 1940.[2]

In 1946, the company began establishing a nationwide chain of franchised Spudnut Shops.[3] In 1948, one new franchisee opened a store after paying $50 (approx. $450 in 2010 dollars) plus the cost of 100 sacks of spudnut flour.[4] By 1952, when the Peltons were on the cover of the April 1952 edition of Mechanix Illustrated (“Their Potatoes Make Dough”),[5] a franchise cost $1,750, plus equipment and other costs, for an initial investment of about $5,000[6] (approx. $40,000 in 2010 dollars).

By 1948, over 200 Spudnut Shops had sprung up across the USA. Spudnuts were advertised widely, with the slogan "Coast to coast... Alaska to Mexico". The cartoon character "Mr. Spudnut" frequently appeared in advertisements, restaurants, and even in parades.[7][8] By mid-1949, the number was over 225, in 31 states.[3] By 1954, there were more than 300 shops in 38 states.[9]
In 1964, Spudnut shops were selling about 400,000 spudnut doughnuts per day. That year, the company announced that it had successfully designed a process of flash freezing its dough, and announced that it planned to increase its distribution centers. At that time, there were six metropolitan franchise dealers who made fresh dough for distribution to shops that did not want to make their own dough from the dry mix sold by the company.[10]

In 1968, the Pelton brothers retired,[6] selling their company, Spudnut Industries Inc., to National Oven Products, Inc., of Washington state, a wholly owned subsidiary of Pace Industries, based in Vancouver, British Columbia. The annual sales of Spudnut Industries was $2 million. The sale price was $550,000, payable over five years, plus 20,000 shares of Pace Industries (worth about $175,000). At the time, there were 315 franchise holders, with combined annual sales of $25 million,[11] making it the largest doughnut franchise in the United States.[12] In 1973, Pace sold the company, which it had kept as a separate entity, together with National Oven Products, for $1.3 million, to Dakota Bake-N-Serv,[13] headquartered in Jamestown, North Dakota. Within a year of the purchase, the new parent company remodeled the Spudnut headquarters in Salt Lake City, and retired "Mr. Spudnut", the company symbol, replacing him with a design showing a spudnut with a bite taken out of it. The mix for the company's signature product continued to be produced at the company plant in Salt Lake City, available as 50 pound bags of dry ingredients or as frozen dough.[14] The future looked bright.

However, the owner of Dakota Bake N Serve became involved in a huge, proposed marina development in the Sacramento River Delta, selling all of his stock to a promoter in exchange for tax-free bond notes that proved worthless. When the promoter was convicted on several charges of fraud and conspiracy in 1979, it was the end of Spudnuts as a chain. The parent company was closed, leaving all the franchisees to fend for themselves.[15] By late 1989, there were only 28 franchise stores open.[4]

The Spudnuts brand has not disappeared completely, with some 35 Spudnut Shops in nine states still open. A single outlet in Canada was taken over by a bakery shop in 2009, but still bakes the treat once a week. Over the history of Spudnuts, there were over 600 stores around the U.S., Canada, and Mexico. In 1975, there were 170 Spudnut outlets in Japan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spudnut_Shops#History

So it was a successful company, but was sold to a foreign conglomerate, then sold again, and then the owner got screwed in a massive financial fraud. A tiny number of franchises survived on their own. And this is the model that Palin wants the USA to follow.

3catwoman3

(24,072 posts)
30. This is like a car crash pulled off to the side of the road.
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 07:25 PM
Jul 2016

I just have to look, every time I see it posted. Irresistibly awful. She must have wanted to sink thru the floor.

David__77

(23,559 posts)
27. I believe I understand her logic and I disagree.
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 06:59 PM
Jul 2016

While it might have been smarter for the Soviets not to trumpet their scientific and technological achievements, not to do so may have diminished the political attractiveness of the Soviet Union.

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