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bigtree

(85,998 posts)
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 09:29 AM Jun 2012

BREAKING: Department Of Justice Sues Florida Over Voter Purge

from ThinkProgress: http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/06/11/497934/breaking-department-of-justice-sues-florida-over-voter-purge/


U.S. Justice Department is suing Florida after the state disregarded the federal government’s request to suspend its voter purge campaign. In a letter to the Florida Secretary of State, Assistant Attorney General Thomas Perez argues that Florida is violating the National Voter Registration Act and the Voting Rights Act. “Please immediately cease this unlawful conduct,” Perez writes.

full text of the letter: http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/florida.pdf

"Because the State has demonstrated its unwillingness to comply with these requirements, I have authorized the initiation of an enforcement action against Florida in federal court."

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BREAKING: Department Of Justice Sues Florida Over Voter Purge (Original Post) bigtree Jun 2012 OP
k&r... spanone Jun 2012 #1
Just wondering what is the penalty for a State and individuals violating the Voting Rights Act? gordianot Jun 2012 #2
Difficult to say. HooptieWagon Jun 2012 #3
that would be a hell of a prize bigtree Jun 2012 #6
I think this still applies bigtree Jun 2012 #4
I hope they're asking for an immediate injunction! Bake Jun 2012 #5
Oh geez. Really? tblue Jun 2012 #10
K&R. nt Chorophyll Jun 2012 #7
About Fucking Time! n/t Dirty Socialist Jun 2012 #8
Recommend! morningfog Jun 2012 #9
K & R Liberal_Dog Jun 2012 #11
I am FUMING here at home. Lost-in-FL Jun 2012 #12
I'm registered as an I (I did that purposely) and received a shiny new voter ID card...LOL..n/t monmouth Jun 2012 #17
K & R malaise Jun 2012 #13
Let's hope the penalty is flamingdem Jun 2012 #14
I thought the job of the DoJ was to arrest people, not sue them Doctor_J Jun 2012 #15
Good news everyone! Hope the Koch dipshits are taken down with Rick Scott. Initech Jun 2012 #16
K & R. No repeat of 2000. freshwest Jun 2012 #18

gordianot

(15,238 posts)
2. Just wondering what is the penalty for a State and individuals violating the Voting Rights Act?
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 10:36 AM
Jun 2012

At least Fort Sumter was a little more direct last time.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
3. Difficult to say.
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 11:06 AM
Jun 2012

Certainly it would result in the entire state being required to have preclearance from the DOJ before making voting changes, up from the current 5 counties. And perhaps NG or Marines will have to be on standby to insure people are allowed access to the polls. And it may result in the state having greater exposure to individual lawsuits filed under the VRA and MVRA. As for penalties against Scott and Detzner, there probably wont be any, sorry to say.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
6. that would be a hell of a prize
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 11:29 AM
Jun 2012

I've been thinking that Florida's balking would open them up that much more to the scrutiny and control of the Justice Dept. over their elections process. Of course, the courts would mostly decide to what degree. I'll bet that Justice is already looking into ways they can fulfill those types of directives you describe, in anticipation of a positive ruling.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
4. I think this still applies
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 11:22 AM
Jun 2012

Voting Rights Act of 1965

SEC. 12. (a) Whoever shall deprive or attempt to deprive any person of any right secured by section 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, or 10 or shall violate section 11(a) or (b), shall be fined not more than $5,000, or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

But, I think that a judge is going to ultimately rule on this, so I would think there would be sanctions for disobeying the judge's order. I'm not sure how Justice can penalize Florida for something which hasn't been ruled on. I'm not sure if they can attach some penalty for ignoring their earlier request to stop the purge, after the court has ruled. That doesn't seem likely. Section 5 is a process, more than it is a hammer for the Justice Dept. The courts should have the final word on whatever coercive or penalizing actions are ultimately taken, if any. But, I'm sure someone with more knowledge than I have will flesh this all out.

Bake

(21,977 posts)
5. I hope they're asking for an immediate injunction!
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 11:23 AM
Jun 2012

Otherwise, there's no point. This will take a couple of years to get through the courts, and November is rapdly coming.

Bake

tblue

(16,350 posts)
10. Oh geez. Really?
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 12:05 PM
Jun 2012

Sigh. Please let there be justice! I thought (well, I hoped anyway) a really sharp administration like this would be all over this crap right from Day 1. I actually fully expected they would have immediately acted to correct the purging, caging, and manipulation that started the 2000 election.

Lost-in-FL

(7,093 posts)
12. I am FUMING here at home.
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 12:19 PM
Jun 2012

I just received the bullshit request to update my voting records. The first question it asks is "Are you a citizen of the United States" SERIOUSLY????????????????????????????? STOP WASTING MY TIME AND TAX PAYERS MONEY ON BULLSHIT PAPERWORK!!!!!!!!!!

Is this how they are purging voters cause if that is how... they almost did lose my vote. I almost trashed this letter today by accident!!!!!!



I am afraid this is not enough to stop FL GOP scum. But it is a start.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
14. Let's hope the penalty is
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 12:48 PM
Jun 2012

death by firing squad, I mean you know sometimes they don't update these things from olden days.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
15. I thought the job of the DoJ was to arrest people, not sue them
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 06:17 PM
Jun 2012

This is largely symbolic, and worthless, since it will be months before anything happens. What they should do is arrest Scott and the SoS and anyone else involved in the purge. Let them stay in lock-up until the election is over.

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